Admit it, you've been that rude guest!

[mom2rtk]

My child's experience will always be more important to me than yours.

When you put a park full of guests together all thinking that very thing, it creates issues.

 

[BuckeyeBama]

Fascinating. So what do two men do if neither will move? Are they constantly slamming into each other?

This is not a man/man problem because men make tiny adjustments at the last second to avoid collisions. The woman here refused to make any adjustments, so was "slammed". I am a man who worked in NYC for many years. It is an art, like a dance, and men who have experience simply do not run into each other. The complaints in the article are hysterical to men like me. They result from a misunderstanding of what is happening. Men who dodge others are not more polite - they simply are not a part of the dance.

The "spreading" thing happens, but every man that I know will give up a seat on a crowded bus or subway.

ETA - BTW, this is not just a "man" thing. In NYC, most "alphas" did this, male and female. But the females who did this learned the dance. As I think about it, I can see more clearly why this woman was run into so many times. She approached the men as if she were a fellow dancer but then did not make the tiny adjustment right before contact. She gave clear signs that she knew the dance, but she didn't understand at all. Had the men known that she didn't know the dance, most of the collisions would not have happened.

 

[JohnneeO]

Yes we were rude. We acted entitled and superior. We scoffed at those who complained.

We had just arrived at MK, and we were taking the WDW RR to Frontierland. As most of you know, there is no organized queue to get on the RR. The stairs go up on both sides to the same common waiting area. There was a crowd of people on one side, so we went up the other set of stairs. It was clear, and then we merged into the line very near the entrance to the RR.

What we did was not fair to those who went up the other set of stairs and had waited longer than us. We knew this, and did it anyway.

 

[Eastern]

I accidentally cut someone in line at Cosmic Rays. I honestly didn't understand the queue. People were ordering, picking up and leaving in a big mess of a line. Too crazy for me.

 

[Magpie]

When you put a park full of guests together all thinking that very thing, it creates issues.

Yep, but no one who actually loves their child is ever going to put that child's needs last. Which is not to say they won't try to teach the child courtesy and consideration and being nice to others - these are all social skills likely to improve the child's life. It's just a simple natural fact that they will be strongly motivated by their own child's well being and happiness.

Heck, I care about my husband's happiness more than I care about yours, and I'm pretty confident he feels the same way about me.

 

[Magpie]

Yes we were rude. We acted entitled and superior. We scoffed at those who complained.

We had just arrived at MK, and we were taking the WDW RR to Frontierland. As most of you know, there is no organized queue to get on the RR. The stairs go up on both sides to the same common waiting area. There was a crowd of people on one side, so we went up the other set of stairs. It was clear, and then we merged into the line very near the entrance to the RR.

What we did was not fair to those who went up the other set of stairs and had waited longer than us. We knew this, and did it anyway.

I do this all the time. I'm a monster!

 

[Gillyrose779]

Probably not a good idea to dredge this up again but here it goes. Attached is a picture I found on the Disneyland website- a child on dad's shoulders watching the fireworks. The thought crossed my mind that I have seen this in many Disney Parks commercials- a child on the shoulders in a crowd watching fireworks.

Obviously Disney doesn't mind promoting it as it gives a good visual so I would see why many people would find this practice acceptable and not rude. If I wasn't a part of these boards I'm not sure it would click with me. I think subconsciously I would be thinking of the Disney Commercials and think it is fine.

 

[Fantabulously Cherry]

I took a nap and maybe snored a bit at the American Adventure.....

I do that in Impressions de Frace EVERY SINGLE TIME!! LOL

 

[maxiesmom]

In Disney commercials you see many things that you don't see in real life. In that picture what you can't tell is if anyone is standing behind the duo, or if maybe they are at the back of a crowd, or have a pole or something behind them. I like to think they are not in the middle of a crowd, blocking the view of many other guests.

 

[Fantabulously Cherry]

To that guy on Pirates taking flash photos every five seconds, I really wouldn't have crammed your camera down your throat. I would have been more creative than that. My bad.

OMG I had that happen during our last trip! I actually screamed, "What part of NO FLASH PHOTOGRAPHY do you NOT UNDERSTAND?" Apparently, it was the "no flash" part because he continued to do this throughout the entire ride!

Hmmm...was it rude of me to yell at him? LOL

 

[Gillyrose779]

In Disney commercials you see many things that you don't see in real life. In that picture what you can't tell is if anyone is standing behind the duo, or if maybe they are at the back of a crowd, or have a pole or something behind them. I like to think they are not in the middle of a crowd, blocking the view of many other guests.

All I'm saying is constant promos by Disney showing kids on shoulders during fireworks may desensitize that idea that it is rude. I don't think people at home are going to see these promos and think "I bet they are not in a crowd/blocking the view of others".

 

[Fantabulously Cherry]

Does it count if you're rude to a moron?

I can recall one instance on our last trip... I was trying to get my stroller out of a stroller park, the one between Adventure & Frontier Lands by County Bear Jamoboree. It's pretty tight in there to begin with and some woman & her grown up daughter were standing reading a map or something right in front of my stroller. I said excuse me 3 times, I was physically trying to back my stroller up so she could see what I was doing and she didn't budge (language was not a barrier because she was speaking English to her daughter), so I forced the issue and ended up bumping into her. She shot me a look and made a rude comment, to which I responded with an equally rude comment. She started to spew something again, but her daughter actually backed her down. Probably a good thing, because I was not in the mood. Normally I just let that idiocy roll off my me, but I was hot & tired and just the wrong time to run into an idiot.

LMAO! I think there is a special rule that negates rudenns to morons. Like the one in Epcot who wasn't watching where she was pushing her mom in the whellchair and slammed into my ankle, causing me to have to use a wheelchair the rest of the day! But I digress... I actually wasn't rude to her. When she kept saying "Sorry", I just put up my hand and said "It's OK", which translated meant, "If you don't get out of my face, I will make you a permanent fixture in Maelstrom".

 

[maxiesmom]

All I'm saying is constant promos by Disney showing kids on shoulders during fireworks may desensitize that idea that it is rude. I don't think people at home are going to see these promos and think "I bet they are not in a crowd/blocking the view of others".

I don't think it is something constantly shown in promos. What I'm saying is I hope people don't believe that everything they see in Disney commercials actually happens, or they are in for a rude awakening. Their kids won't suddenly end up on pirate ships, or fly around with Peter Pan either. Nor will the CM at their resort have fairy wings.

 

[ArwenMarie]

Probably not a good idea to dredge this up again but here it goes. Attached is a picture I found on the Disneyland website- a child on dad's shoulders watching the fireworks. The thought crossed my mind that I have seen this in many Disney Parks commercials- a child on the shoulders in a crowd watching fireworks.

Obviously Disney doesn't mind promoting it as it gives a good visual so I would see why many people would find this practice acceptable and not rude. If I wasn't a part of these boards I'm not sure it would click with me. I think subconsciously I would be thinking of the Disney Commercials and think it is fine.

That's really funny! It does give a cute visual so I can see why they use it. But I agree, it could sink into your subconscience and make you think it's ok.

 

[ArwenMarie]

I don't think it is something constantly shown in promos. What I'm saying is I hope people don't believe that everything they see in Disney commercials actually happens, or they are in for a rude awakening. Their kids won't suddenly end up on pirate ships, or fly around with Peter Pan either.

Yeah, but I do think it's a good point. Do they show people in their promos with selfie sticks or sitting by the parade in a lawn chair? I think not.

 

[Fantabulously Cherry]

OK I ADMIT IT! I have resorted to physical violence before! Put the waterboarding away!

I had just found out I was pregnant while at Disney. We were at Animal Kingdom in the exploration trails around the tigers. We were all looking through the glass with this 20-something girl comes from behind us and forces her way to the front. She literally climbs up my back to see the tiger. This resulted in my face pressed up against the glass and my belly being mashed up against the barrier. I flipping lost it! We had tried so hard to become pregnant and this careless little witch tried to destroy that? (That was what was raging in my mind at the time). So when she moved on to the next glass pane, I went up behind her to see the tiger, she looked at me and smiled and I shoved her head against the glass...twice. And I flipped her off. She got irrate and her friend wanted to know why I did that (she witnessed her acting like a maniac over freaking tigers). When I explained to her about my pregnancy, she went into panic mode and apologized and said "she is crazy". I told the friend, "You have nothing to apologize for. You didn't do this. But maybe you should put a leash on her".

OK, I feel better...I admit it, I have been rude, even violent. But I felt I was in the right. And I really do try to not be that rude person.

 

[Kobey]

In Disney commercials you see many things that you don't see in real life. In that picture what you can't tell is if anyone is standing behind the duo, or if maybe they are at the back of a crowd, or have a pole or something behind them. I like to think they are not in the middle of a crowd, blocking the view of many other guests.

I want to see a commercial with screaming tantrums, fistfights and mobs of people pressed up against each other for hours waiting in queues. They could call it "The Real Disney Experience".

 

[ttintagel]

My child's experience will always be more important to me than yours. That's just a fact of life. However, if there's a way to make everyone happy (such as propping the child on a hip), then I'll opt for that whenever possible. If it's not possible, and especially if I see other children on shoulders... then I'd probably stick the kid up there, too. And feel no guilt.

There's absolutely no reason why you can't check with the people behind you to make sure you;re not obstructing their view. And offer to switch with them if you are. Or let them know beforehand what you're planning to do so they have time to find another spot. It's not a great lesson to teach you kid that you and your family are the only people in the world who matter. That's just creating a whole new generation of people who feel no guilt for taking what they please at the expense of others.

 

[DisneyGuy758]

I want to see a commercial with screaming tantrums, fistfights and mobs of people pressed up against each other for hours waiting in queues. They could call it "The Real Disney Experience".

Don't forget the overly drunk people in the World Showcase stumbling around as well.

 

[Dug720]

I wouldn't say "riff-raff" for the Value resorts, but just a suspicion here - maybe they figured that those resorts would typically be the more popular with teams and school groups and felt that the queue-style lines would work better in corralling them. I can't imagine a bus pulling up with a large group of teens just milling about and waiting on it - talk about chaos! And woe betide anyone not in the group waiting - they would be trampled!