? about teacher's comment to dd???

[Marseeya]

Um, where do you get any humiliation out of the OPs story? I dont' think it's healthy for children to be so sensitive that they can't handle anything at all for themselves.

I'm sorry, you'll have to read through the thread to follow the context of that quote. It has nothing to do with the OP's situation, but is a reply to another poster's OT remarks. I even mentioned that it was OT.

In fact, I did mention twice in this thread that an 11 year old is quite old enough to handle this on her own without parental intervention.

 

[Toby'sFriend]

You know, this whole thread has really gone nuts.

NOBODY here has suggested that the OP mention this any further, or take any further action regarding the teacher. Nobody at all!!!

But, just because some posters feel that the teachers comments may have been 'questionable'...

HOW DARE WE!!!!

Wishing on a Star, I'm really curious? Are you always as indignant as you type? I think alot of us here really wonder whatever has gone on that feeds you so much anger regarding Teachers and Schools - because honestly, thread after thread all those cap letters.... it really gives the impression that you are about to explode.

Myself, this seems kind of a silly little episode. I really do think the Mom got caught here and if I pulled something like this with my kids, I'd expect a little poke and and alot of eyerolling from the school staff. Who could blame them?

 

[MinnieM3]

My comments are being ignored too, don't feel bad.

I like your approach. It's honest and it teaches the kid to be honest.

I feel so much better! Thank you!!

 

[JulyGirl]

What happens once my child leaves school grounds is MY business. I am the parent.

True, but when your kid gets out of school early for being sick then winds up on the front page of the newspaper for being "first in line" with Oksana, there is going to be some teasing going on. More than likely, the teacher was joking about it.

 

[Planogirl]

I can't even believe I am reading this!!! This is just warped....

Teachers only have rights to have rules in place, in their classroom'.

This whole, 'Teachers are Gods' thing just doesn't fly with me.


Again, if my child wants to wear a particular shirt outside of school, then that is OUR business. My childs teacher has no right to enforce any dress code outside of a school setting.

What happens once my child leaves school grounds is MY business. I am the parent.

I don't see anyone claiming that teachers are "Gods" on this thread. It's just that when it comes to school business such as attendance, they do have the right to comment or even turn a truant kid in. Again, teachers represent the school and the school's rules.

However making comments in front of other kids sounds a bit unwise. A quiet word with the kid should have sufficed.

 

[Jennasis]

You send your children to a school that does this?????

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

I don't know which part of this is funnier...

ok...first, I don't have children.

NO school that I am aware of still actually practices or condones capitol punishment..SOoooooooo one would have to imagine that I was indeed JOKING. HOwever, their "arcane" policy may have a suspension or other type of punishment attached to an unexcused absence or being taken out of school for a fake illness.

 

[horseshowmom]

My beautiful, talented, creative little girl is humiliated by things like this every day. Her IQ is low, but not low enough for special services, and the discrepancy between ability and achievement isn't great enough for services. So she has to muddle through and get bad grades. It's so degrading for her to have precious little Susie grade her paper and write a big fat F across the top and tease her about it later.

I think it's wrong, wrong, wrong. I'd like to know where teachers learned this sort of tactic, because I sure as hell never learned it in MY ed psych classes.

Count me as proud of having a "sensitive" daughter. Things like this hurt her, but she's also sensitive enough not to treat others this same way.

As a former teacher, I'm very opposed to public discussion of grades. I don't think that students should ever grade other students' papers (I for sure wouldn't put the results of that in my gradebook - too much room for bias in "friends helping friends" if nothing else).

Grades are private and should not be called out in class. While I'm in favor of honor rolls being published (as discussed in another thread), no student should have a bad grade called out in front of others.

My DD currently has a 4.0 in her first semester of college. In her Chemistry class (a very large class), they put all of their graded papers in big boxes for everybody to dig through to find their own. It even annoys her, and she's got good grades. She doesn't think it's fair to the ones who don't.

 

[golfgal]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

I don't know which part of this is funnier...

ok...first, I don't have children.

NO school that I am aware of still actually practices or condones capitol punishment..SOoooooooo one would have to imagine that I was indeed JOKING. HOwever, their "arcane" policy may have a suspension or other type of punishment attached to an unexcused absence or being taken out of school for a fake illness.

Ok, I went back a couple posts when I posted this to see where it came from and got lost on the whole topic . I do know of a couple schools that do have corporal punishment (not capitol because that would be things like the electric chair). It always amazed me that parents would send their kids to schools like that.

 

[Wishing on a star]

toby....
I really do use all caps more than I should!!!! Sorry!!!
Please notice, in the last post, it was not my thoughts that I put in all caps, but my characterization of those who are flaming the 'parents' here.

But, seriously, I do feel strongly that teachers should teach, and that is the limit of their responsibility. I truly do feel that many teachers, and our educational system as a whole, are really overstepping their limits. I feel very strongly about parents rights.


Once again, the OP took no action... Nobody here has suggested that she take any action. Yet, look at all this heated debate...

The recent posters here bring up an excellent point!!!
We really do not know exactly what was said, or how it was said???

I am basing my thoughts on the fact that the OP truly felt that it was not right. And, that she would even consider taking the issue any further.

Granted, that is an assumption.

 

[Jennasis]

Yes yes...CORPORAL. My head is killing me. Migraine. My dad used to spin tales about the nuns in his Catholic school cracking a mean ruler across his knuckles. Apparently he USED to be a lefty.

 

[Wishing on a star]

Plano,
My comments there were directed at the quote that was included. That poster very clearly indicated that the teacher should have some rules or say/so beyond the classroom. Beyond school business, such as attendance.
(And, even that is an adminstrative issue, NOT a teachers issue.)
edited to add: oops!! another all-cap!! LOL!!!

The views stated in that one post would meet my definition of a teacher 'controlling' and being what I call a 'teacher god'.

No offense to any teachers who are not like that!!!!

 

[Marseeya]

As a former teacher, I'm very opposed to public discussion of grades. I don't think that students should ever grade other students' papers (I for sure wouldn't put the results of that in my gradebook - too much room for bias in "friends helping friends" if nothing else).

Grades are private and should not be called out in class. While I'm in favor of honor rolls being published (as discussed in another thread), no student should have a bad grade called out in front of others.

My DD currently has a 4.0 in her first semester of college. In her Chemistry class (a very large class), they put all of their graded papers in big boxes for everybody to dig through to find their own. It even annoys her, and she's got good grades. She doesn't think it's fair to the ones who don't.

I totally agree with you on that. It's definitely something I won't do in my own classroom! I haven't encountered it in college, except for some of the larger classes that posted grades on a bulletin board with our student ID numbers (which also happened to be SS numbers! but that's another story).

I also don't like the whole thing of a teacher reading out answers, then asking the kids, "How many got all 10 right? How many got 9?" etc, even when it's just a casual thing.

 

[ladycollector]

I think he was totally out of line.

Yes your daughter was *sick* and left school, big whoop. I'm sure she'll survive.

I don't know about anyone else, but there have been many times when I've been too sick to work, study, or think hard, but have been okay to get out a do a little something to make me feel better.

Plus, your daughter got to meet Oksana!!

I wouldn't say anything about it though, because nothing will come out of it.

 

[Sunny37]

But, seriously, I do feel strongly that teachers should teach, and that is the limit of their responsibility.

Wouldn't that be nice? If teaching was ALL that teachers had to do? Teachers get the raw end of the deal here, because there are some parents who don't want to care for their own children...they want the SCHOOL to do it. My husband, a former HS principal, actually had a woman call him one morning wanting him to talk to her son and tell him that he had to get out of bed and go to school!! That's only one example of the situations he dealt with.

I truly do feel that many teachers, and our educational system as a whole, are really overstepping their limits. I feel very strongly about parents rights.

So you crank up this heavy argument about teachers thinking they are "Gods"? If you feel so strongly about parental rights, then quit yelling about it on a Disney bulletin board and get busy changing things.



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[Sunny37]

OP, I wouldn't say anything else about this situation...and tell your daughter to do the same. I agree with the others--it will go away and I bet nothing else will be said.

 

[we3disneygo]

the autograph session was at the Owen's Center Ice Rink and it was at 4:00-4:30 pm. dd called me at around 11:30, I did not lie and check her out of school for this. It's our first year at this school and I don't know this teacher very well, he has a very strong presence.

 

[Pam]

I'll pop in my two cents worth..... sorry, but I quit reading all the posts after page 4 as I didn't feel like wading through all of those replies.

I would have, and have done so in the past, just went into school and signed my kid out and said what I was doing. One occasion was when my son left school 1 hour early to help the Fish and Game Commission stock trout.

If I would have been standing there and heard the teacher's comments to my child and had an issue with said comments, I would have given it right back to the man.

Teachers call off sick to do things, leave early -- I guess I feel that students can do the same thing. This happens in every profession - not just education.

Life's too short, folks - if you can make up the work, keep up the grades -- go for it.

 

[Disney Doll]

Therein is our disagreement.

It is me and my child.
Once I check my child out of school, the school has NO rights to tell me what I can and cannot do.
Just the thought that they might think they do makes me cringe.

The teacher making a couple of "pointed" comments is a far cry for the school telling oyu how to raise your child.

If you and your child are going to decide to leave school early because of an illness and then stand outside in the cool Fall weather for an autograph, you ought to expect some commentary.

Certainly sends a message to a child about the importance of education.

BTW, my mother was also of the "if you're too sick for school you're too sick for anything else, especially a social event" camp too.

 

[Toby'sFriend]

we3disneygo

betcha never thought you'd get a 10 page thread out of this, did you?

 

[Bob Slydell]

Life's too short, folks - if you can make up the work, keep up the grades -- go for it.

I could have kept up my grades through HS practically without even showing up to school at all. Does that mean I should have been able to skip class 4 out of 5 days each week?

I don't have a problem with the OP taking her DD to the autograph session. And I didn't realize that she was taken out of school for a valid illness and felt better later on. But I don't understand why she'd be surprised or upset over the teacher making some comments about the news article, assuming the comments were not rude (again, we still don't know the actual comments, just that comments were made in general).