A word about Wine Pairings at Remy--

[Uncleromulus]

My Grandmother used to drink that stuff----

 

[dcassetta]

Even if you don't drink wine? We don't drink - wine or really much alcoholic beverages at all. I don't know enough to know a good wine experience from bad. Really, to me, wine doesn't taste good at all.

I can't see just adding wine to a meal just because someone else thinks "that's the only way to enjoy the meal".

I do not drink alcohol and have enjoyed meals at Palo and Remy.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

I do not drink alcohol and have enjoyed meals at Palo and Remy.

As have we.

 

[acndis]

I love the wine pairings at Remy. If anything, I thought the pours were too big. I was pretty happy after our meal the last few times but not so happy the next day. 2 oz. sounds great! Many of the bottles (on their own) are more expensive than the price of the tastings for two. The wines they pair are extremely interesting and each one is probably not something that would be easily available or at my usual price point.

We go 'all in' when we are Remy (caviar; truffles; better than Kobe beef upgrade) and have never once regretted it. We just build it into the budget. If you really want a special experience, I recommend the wine and anything else you really love.

 

[Tasmen]

We thoroughly enjoyed getting the wine pairing with our Remy meal, but we also like wine. I would say if you like wine especially with that type of dining, it is VERY worth the cost. The wines truly compliment each course.

 

[Uncleromulus]

Acndis and Tasmen--did you really know--or ever heard of-- the wines they were paring your food with?

OR did it just sound good as they were describing it???

In other words, did you actually KNOW you were getting expensive wine that you wouldn't ordinarily order by the bottle???

 

[acndis]

Acndis and Tasmen--did you really know--or ever heard of-- the wines they were paring your food with?

OR did it just sound good as they were describing it???

In other words, did you actually KNOW you were getting expensive wine that you wouldn't ordinarily order by the bottle???

Yes, we were familiar with some and unfamiliar with others. Most were over $200 per bottle. The pairings were really beautiful. The sommelier at Remy is top notch.

 

[abuck75]

As someone who enjoys both wine and food, but probably splurges on wine a little more often than ultra high-end Pre Fixe dinning, I think this is good information but it's really going to come down to taste.

I always assume 2.5 - 3X markup on wine at restaurants, so at this point a non-reserve bottle of cab from most Napa Valley wineries pushes $75 making the restaurant price near $200. I'd guess the five pours during dinner are very close to a half bottle (slightly over 2oz per), so it's pretty much what I'd anticipate paying for something similar. We generally don't enjoy whites, so I'd be tempted to bring our own bottle, but given this experience, it very easily could overpower the food during certain courses.

That said, $105 is a lot of money to spend on a half bottle of wine, and I'd suggest that the sommelier would be able to recommend a glass of wine that will still pair well without overpowering the meal if you wish to go that route.

 

[mousefan73]

Well--I think we could have done better with the $240!!

I agree! But for some the 240 is for them like 24. for me it's too much money to enjoy

 

[mousefan73]

My only other comment is that it would expected that at Remy and other such places only expensive wines are servied. so a tasting might be a way to try many types of "expensive" wine.. But please Keep in mind that just because a wine is expensive does not mean it is the "best".. In my old Job I planned many wine tasting for our customers.. We hired Markus Del Monego ( back in the day was THE world Champion Wine Sommlier). Great guy and he explained to me that one should drink what wine they enjoy, even if a tetra box ( which BTW some Quality wines can be found here).. Pricing has not too much to do with what is best ( which is relative anyways).. but more on the harvest season.. Some vinyards and harvests are simply low... if you can only produce 1000 bottles, you will Charge more than the next year where you have 5000. Also Oak vs non make up a difference.. Some regions ( Napa) can simply Charge more due to demand.. Think Disney charging more for their Cruises.

I just wanted to say that by NOT doing the paring and paying too much for wine, should not affect the experience nor Quality of the Food.. If you enjoy a Merlot then drink that for all courses and just rinse the palate with bread and water.. and just because you are paying 100 for a bottle does not mean it is one of the best.

 

[Tasmen]

Acndis and Tasmen--did you really know--or ever heard of-- the wines they were paring your food with?

OR did it just sound good as they were describing it???

In other words, did you actually KNOW you were getting expensive wine that you wouldn't ordinarily order by the bottle???

For me, I was ordering more to have wine that paired well with the food rather than 'Woohoooo expensive wine!'. I've had some really pricy wines in the past that were not great and some inexpensive wines that were amazing. I had heard of a couple we were served but not all. I was still very happy and found great value in the addon.

 

[Uncleromulus]

As someone who enjoys both wine and food, but probably splurges on wine a little more often than ultra high-end Pre Fixe dinning, I think this is good information but it's really going to come down to taste.

I always assume 2.5 - 3X markup on wine at restaurants, so at this point a non-reserve bottle of cab from most Napa Valley wineries pushes $75 making the restaurant price near $200. I'd guess the five pours during dinner are very close to a half bottle (slightly over 2oz per), so it's pretty much what I'd anticipate paying for something similar. We generally don't enjoy whites, so I'd be tempted to bring our own bottle, but given this experience, it very easily could overpower the food during certain courses.

That said, $105 is a lot of money to spend on a half bottle of wine, and I'd suggest that the sommelier would be able to recommend a glass of wine that will still pair well without overpowering the meal if you wish to go that route.

With wine being just over 25 oz per bottle, one bottle at 2 oz per pour would last Remy TWELVE dinners---

 

[abuck75]

With wine being just over 25 oz per bottle, one bottle at 2 oz per pour would last Remy TWELVE dinners---

Well, 5 bottles would last 12 dinners. Assuming they error slightly on the over side I'd guess they go through about 10 bottles per 5 dinners, and one wine pairing gets about 1/2 bottle combined (12 oz).

I agree with those above that say expensive does not necessarily equal good,. I also think you are very justified in your feelings that it wasn't a good value to you (as it wouldn't be to many). 10 - 15 years ago I'm sure I'd have felt the same way, now I may or may not feel the same way.

My only point is a quick look at a menu on Disney Food Blog from April and quick google search would show the average bottle of wines served on the American side retails for $110 per bottle, and $95 on the french side, so when you get (on average) close to 1/2 bottle combined and apply standard mark-ups it's not an unreasonable value/mark up. Of course, it's fair to question if any wine is worth $100 a bottle, but the same could be said about $40 for an ounce of wagyu beef, or $200 for an ounce of cavier, or spending $100's of dollars to see a Broadway play or Baseball game.

 

[calismic]

Does anyone know if you're permitted to bring your own bottle of wine to Remy?

 

[Uncleromulus]

Well, 5 bottles would last 12 dinners. Assuming they error slightly on the over side I'd guess they go through about 10 bottles per 5 dinners, and one wine pairing gets about 1/2 bottle combined (12 oz).

I agree with those above that say expensive does not necessarily equal good,. I also think you are very justified in your feelings that it wasn't a good value to you (as it wouldn't be to many). 10 - 15 years ago I'm sure I'd have felt the same way, now I may or may not feel the same way.

My only point is a quick look at a menu on Disney Food Blog from April and quick google search would show the average bottle of wines served on the American side retails for $110 per bottle, and $95 on the french side, so when you get (on average) close to 1/2 bottle combined and apply standard mark-ups it's not an unreasonable value/mark up. Of course, it's fair to question if any wine is worth $100 a bottle, but the same could be said about $40 for an ounce of wagyu beef, or $200 for an ounce of cavier, or spending $100's of dollars to see a Broadway play or Baseball game.

So right--people value different things for their $$$--for us, next Remy we'll just order by the glass based on what course we choose. I guess my point (if I had any!) was to alert folks that they should not expect a "full" glass of wine from the Remy Wine Pairings--in fact, much less and there wouldn't be any wine in the glass at all.....