A TRUE Game-Changer?

[WilsonFlyer]

I swore off a long time ago that I'd NEVER go back to Sony and I've been a Canon loyalist ever since but this one's truly a game changer folks, IMHO.

This may very well be THE light at the end of the proverbial tunnel.

It's amazing to me that it's come about with so little fanfare. If this thing lives up to its specs, it will be phenomenol.

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...&productId=8198552921666192716#specifications

Let the wars begin again.

 

[racreel]

Bad link...

Is this what you're talking about?

 

[WilsonFlyer]

Actually the NEX-5 was the one I was linking to. Thought I had fixed the link. I'll get it fixed.

EDIT: There. I THINK it's fixed now. I posted at several sites and apparently it didn't come over correctly from my CnP.

 

[Gianna'sPapa]

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sonynex3/

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sonynex5/

 

[Pea-n-Me]

I guess people are finally warming up to the idea of "mirrorless dslrs".

http://reviews.photographyreview.co...compact-interchangable-lens-alpha/#more-11963

But, sorry, I do have to disagree with your Game Changer reference. The game changers hit the market a year and a half ago. http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/05/olympus-and-panasonic-launch-micro-four-thirds-dslrs-enter-a-ne/

 

[WilsonFlyer]

It's all vaporware until somebody ships something.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

 

[photo_chick]

I think the concept could be a game changer once it comes down in price. But Sony certainly was not the first to do it.

I've had my hands on the Oly PEN. Its pretty slick and I can see the draw of those types of cameras for people who want more than a point and shoot, but not a huge DSLR. I see this class as replacing the "bridge" cameras that are now practically non-existant since point and shoots have become more full featured.

Though personally I'd never give up my TTL view finder.

 

[gokenin]

ok i know its totally subjective but is it only me or are those things ugly? i know most DSLRs are not the most beautiful things but man they look like beauty queens compared to those things

 

[ukcatfan]

But, sorry, I do have to disagree with your Game Changer reference.

I see this class as replacing the "bridge" cameras that are now practically non-existant since point and shoots have become more full featured.

Though personally I'd never give up my TTL view finder.

I have to agree. Also, these are never going to replace a DSLR for a serious photographer. There is the chance that LCD technology might get good enough to replace the optical viewfinder, but the viewfinder itself will never go away on serious cameras. I also totally agree that these are the replacements of bridge cameras, not DSLRs.

 

[WilsonFlyer]

A viewfinder will be an optional add-on on the 5 and base product on the 7 (unannounced).

 

[WilsonFlyer]

I have to agree. Also, these are never going to replace a DSLR for a serious photographer. There is the chance that LCD technology might get good enough to replace the optical viewfinder, but the viewfinder itself will never go away on serious cameras. I also totally agree that these are the replacements of bridge cameras, not DSLRs.

Flip-up mirror systems will be the Hassleblands (sp.?)/has-beens 10 years from now. Wanna bet?

I started with an AE-1 I paid a small fortune 35 odd years ago and then graduated to an A-1 (STILL the best camera I have ever owned. period) so don't take that statement too lightly because I don't post here often. I just live on other boards for photography.

 

[Daisy14'sDH]

It looks uncomfortable to me. Plus looking through a viewfinder seems more natural especially when in any kind of backlight you can never see the LCD screen...

 

[WilsonFlyer]

It looks uncomfortable to me. Plus looking through a viewfinder seems more natural especially when in any kind of backlight you can never see the LCD screen...

Do a Google on the NEX-7 rumored to be coming before year's end.

 

[Daisy14'sDH]

I read the preview, once the camera gets in the real world that will tell the tale. It just seems odd, maybe mirrorless will take off, who knows. But for me if I want compactness I'll use a P&S. If I want a take better photos I'll use the DSLR, it seems more real... only MHO...

 

[ukcatfan]

I have to agree. Also, these are never going to replace a DSLR for a serious photographer. There is the chance that LCD technology might get good enough to replace the optical viewfinder, but the viewfinder itself will never go away on serious cameras. I also totally agree that these are the replacements of bridge cameras, not DSLRs.

Flip-up mirror systems will be the Hassleblands (sp.?)/has-beens 10 years from now. Wanna bet?

I started with an AE-1 I paid a small fortune 35 odd years ago and then graduated to an A-1 (STILL the best camera I have ever owned. period) so don't take that statement too lightly because I don't post here often. I just live on other boards for photography.

You didn't read what I said my friend. I said that viewfinders are here to stay. I stand firm by that position because it is without a question the best way to shoot. Holding a camera out in front of you is not the best form and results in not the best results. I DID say that LCDs might mature enough to replace the "optical" viewfinder (i.e. the flip up mirror). I can see the mirror becoming a thing of the past, but a camera without a viewfinder and only a big LCD on the back is NEVER going to be the tool of choice for serious photographers. I think we hold the same position and you just posted before you let my words sink in.

 

[photo_chick]

It's not about a view finder or not... they are mirrorless. That means that any viewfinder will be an EVF at best. While EVF's have thier merits, many will be unwilling to give up true TTL viewing.

And Hasselblad's are most definitely not gone.

 

[ukcatfan]

It's not about a view finder or not... they are mirrorless. That means that any viewfinder will be an EVF at best. While EVF's have thier merits, many will be unwilling to give up true TTL viewing.

And Hasselblad's are most definitely not gone.

My point is that EVFs "might" be as good as an optical viewfinder within ten years from now. If they are not, then you will not see real photographers give up the optical ones.

These mirrorless cameras are aimed at getting p&s users to upgrade. Those people usually do not even remember what an optical viewfinder is.

 

[photo_chick]

My point is that EVFs "might" be as good as an optical viewfinder within ten years from now. If they are not, then you will not see real photographers give up the optical ones.

These mirrorless cameras are aimed at getting p&s users to upgrade. Those people usually do not even remember what an optical viewfinder is.

I think it's going to come down one thing as far as view finders go... Do we want to actually see through the lens, or are we ok with the digital representation of what we would see though the lens.

The mirrorless cameras do have the size advantage. However, it's not like they can take a camera, remove the mirror and make it smaller while still being able to use the same lenses either. They either have to make new lenses (like Sony and Panasonic) or make an adapter (like Olympus) because a certain amount of distance is required between the lens and the media for focusing.

 

[Daisy14'sDH]

After more thinking on this I think I see another advantage. Durability and reliability. With less moving parts (Mirror) the design may prove much more reliable. I was always taught that anything mechanical is due to fail.