A sad day at WDW....

Very sad and disappointing... but one word comes to mind,... Karma. Their actions will eventually catch up with them.

I sure hope that that family's vacation wasn't ruined by the rudeness of others.
 
jswalker1981 said:
It is kind of funny to hear about you talking about people throwing trash on the ground. Only because I went a couple of days ago, and I have a very bad chest cough, and I have been coughing up mucus like crazy. And I actually went out of my way to spit it out in plants on the sides of the walkways so that I don't just spit it on the walkways. Or I would find a lonely corner so that I wouldn't take away from everyone else's experience. I am sure no one would want to walk in front of Peter Pan and IASW right after I coughed up a lung. I try to be considerate of everyone, some people just aren't raised the same way, and I hate to see it be that way.
:goodvibes Even though I've never seen you I have a visual on this... eeeew. ;)

My husband always had a big wad of napkins in his pocket for events like this... just a thought! :flower:

Of course there are exceptions to every generalization. I hope I didn't offend anyone with my earlier comments. I myself go to Six Flags over near Buffalo. But so do 15 gazillion other people, many of whom think it's okay to trash an amusement park and see Disney as no different. I DO think WDW is different, otherwise I wouldn't bankrupt myself to save for trips there!

My main point is that I have a hard time accepting that I should just expect people to be rude. I think too many of us are too accepting of that. In the school I work in, without a doubt, the kids who act rudely get most of the adults' attention. Meanwhile, the students who work hard never get the recognition they deserve because we spend all our time on the badly behaved kids. It seems like the decent people are always ignored.

In our city the biggest mall has a code of conduct and security people escort anyone who is cursing, fighting, etc. out. Disney is a private entity, and could have some code of conduct. We expect children to adhere to rules and etiquette so we should expect adults to do so too!
 
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Other than that (and our HORRIBLE experience at WCC) the trip was GREAT!!!
<<<<<WCC???Whispering Canyon Cafe? Tell us, what was so horrible about it?
 
I am the mother of a wonderful 16 year old special needs child. DD is in a stroller type wheelchair. David had a stroke and does not speak or communicate but he does SMILE and GIGGLE when he is happy. We are lucky enough to have been able take a trip to Disney 5 times with David and have always come home with some wonderful memories, some of which are made possible by "regular people". People who are WDW guests just like us.
Once someone gave David their Mickey balloon, no reason they just tied it onto his chair because he seemed to be looking and smiling at it. I don't know who you are, you didnt leave your name but you left a permanent memory in my mind and my heart. Thank you. We have had people step out of line so David could see better. Thank you, We have had people give us fast passes so our wait was a bit shorter. Thank you. We have had smiles when David has reached out to touch a character and for these I can't thank people enough. If you are one of these truly wonderful people (DAWGPOUNDAJ you ARE one as I can tell by your post trying to help out a "Special" family in need) We thank you. You probably don't know how wonderful it is to see people smile at my son, you don't know the impact you make on us. You will never know the happiness you have given to us.You don't know that you are teaching your children to be tolerant of people who are different and to be patient when there is someone who needs more time. You are teaching your children compassion, you may not know it but they see you and they learn it. We thank you for that. For all of you who have smiled, waited patiently for someone to slowly walk to a character, waited for someone who needed more time, held open a door, ....we notice and we appreciate it. Thank you.
Don't get me wrong we have had some terrible experiences in WDW with people but, I try to forget those. I pity those people who push past and trample, who have unkind words and who are negative. They are missing so much. They didnt get to see my child whos hand is cramped and stiff reach out to touch Mickey, they missed the child take some steps and walk ever so slowly to Minnie, they didnt get to see my child stare wide-eyed at the fireworks in the sky. Those of you who waited patiently, stood behind , didnt trample maybe you did. I hope you did so that you can see the direct result of your kindness. Thank you we are grateful to you.
 

I just want to tell you how beautiful your post was. It brought a tear to my eye. You are a wonderful mom and you are blessed with a beautiful spirit. :flower:
 
D said:
I am the mother of a wonderful 16 year old special needs child. DD is in a stroller type wheelchair. David had a stroke and does not speak or communicate but he does SMILE and GIGGLE when he is happy. We are lucky enough to have been able take a trip to Disney 5 times with David and have always come home with some wonderful memories, some of which are made possible by "regular people". People who are WDW guests just like us.
Once someone gave David their Mickey balloon, no reason they just tied it onto his chair because he seemed to be looking and smiling at it. I don't know who you are, you didnt leave your name but you left a permanent memory in my mind and my heart. Thank you. We have had people step out of line so David could see better. Thank you, We have had people give us fast passes so our wait was a bit shorter. Thank you. We have had smiles when David has reached out to touch a character and for these I can't thank people enough. If you are one of these truly wonderful people (DAWGPOUNDAJ you ARE one as I can tell by your post trying to help out a "Special" family in need) We thank you. You probably don't know how wonderful it is to see people smile at my son, you don't know the impact you make on us. You will never know the happiness you have given to us.You don't know that you are teaching your children to be tolerant of people who are different and to be patient when there is someone who needs more time. You are teaching your children compassion, you may not know it but they see you and they learn it. We thank you for that. For all of you who have smiled, waited patiently for someone to slowly walk to a character, waited for someone who needed more time, held open a door, ....we notice and we appreciate it. Thank you.
Don't get me wrong we have had some terrible experiences in WDW with people but, I try to forget those. I pity those people who push past and trample, who have unkind words and who are negative. They are missing so much. They didnt get to see my child whos hand is cramped and stiff reach out to touch Mickey, they missed the child take some steps and walk ever so slowly to Minnie, they didnt get to see my child stare wide-eyed at the fireworks in the sky. Those of you who waited patiently, stood behind , didnt trample maybe you did. I hope you did so that you can see the direct result of your kindness. Thank you we are grateful to you.


what a wonderful post
people need to reemeber thre kids will act on what they are taught
if you treat your kids to be rude and uncompassionate thats how they will
act
 
I am truly blessed. I have a great family and a great job. I teach first grade!!1 It is the BEAT JOB IN THE WORLD!! I can tell you first hand kids are compassionate. I think they are honest but ,compassionate its when their parents are not that they start to learn to be unkind. I think they learn that it an ok behavior. I never have a problem with children asking or staring at David. I have the best story...its long though.

When David was about 8 we were in the dentist's office. David was in an extremely good mood and was giggling and laughing and clapping his hands. I little boy approx 5 said to his Mom, "What's wrong with him", she "shhhhed" him and told him to stop. I didn't say anything as that was ok if that is how she wanted to answer. A few minutes later he asked her again,"What the heck is wrong with him?" Again she shhed him and was noticably embrassed. A few minutes later he timidly walked over to me and asked, "What's wrong with him." I looked at Mom and sort of asked if it was ok to talk to him. I told him about how David had a part of his brain that was not working like other children's brains worked and went on and on.. He looked at me with huge eyes and said...."But what is wrong with him?" I looked puzzled and said well, his brain doesnt work as well as other children. He looked at me like I was so dumb and said . "I understand that but what is wrong with him, he's happy. Doesn't he know this is the DENTIST'S office!"
I love kids! So honest and so darling.
 
D,K and L's mom....I just KNEW you were going to end that story like that! :lovestruc
And I agree that your spirit will move mountains in getting people to be more compassionate and loving. Thank YOU.

As for the initial OP, too bad the CM couldn't have gone on the microphone in Philharmagic and asked that the people who ran over the fallen child raise their hands...and then awarded them a group strawberry and escorted their a$$es right out of there......Now THAT would have been a good lesson for our kids to witness.

I was in Disney for a short time in May and witnessed no acts of rudeness, lewdness or crudeness. I was looking for culprits of littering, as I have my own passive aggressive way of dealing with that problem....but nothing. Everything was truly magical.

And to whoever posted that we all need to give the benefit of the doubt and try not to be so judgmental (the flash photography spanish speaking guest)
.....I believe you are right. Lets all try to pay it forward with our own acts of kindness and hope that it catches on!

Hanname!
 
Cyndirella said:
How sad! We were there last week as well and I noticed so much more rudeness on this trip than in others...was it a full moon???

Actually, we were there the 20-28 and it was a full moon! We noticed the rudeness too. Sad...
 
Psst! For most sit down shows at WDW, you don't need to be first into the room or auditorium to get a decent seat. Supposedly it is those folks who are in the middle of the group who get the best seats since those who enter first have to move all the way down each row of seats.

lecach said:
jswalker - dont take this the wrong way, but I was kind of grossed out by your post. Why didnt you use a handkerchief or something instead of spitting mucus on plants?
I'm also a dirty little boy, spitting on plants, or, at a stoplight opening the door, leaning out, and spitting. If someone behind me were to honk the horn I would pretend to do the latter before proceeding.

Usually I walk in a few curlicues before spitting on the plants so as to look like I am specifically avoiding messing up the sidewalks as opposed to spitting anywhere and happening to hit the plants.

If I were to use a handkerchief instead the very next thing I would need to do is find a wastebasket to throw the hankie away because I don't want the hankie unfolding in my pocket letting the mess smear all over inside. Inside I often spit into a wastebasket rather than walk all the way to the mens room whenever needed.
 
Oh no not disney now..

I can understand the country fair(Texas state fair). Blatant racism by booth owners and vile language by members of the crowd during the 80s. Part of the experience I guess.

Then early 90s 6Flags Texas. A group of future NBA players cut in line. Even with my highschool footballl buddies we still let them pass. A family guy up ahead didn't want to; got knock out and nearly killed.

Then last year a co-worker of mine said there was a fight a Mickey's Philharmonic 3D show and security had to come in and escort the guy out of the park with his kids.

sigh :sad2:

In all cases the weather was hot.
 
:confused3 No offense meant, but people don't blow noses straight into a wastebasket/onto the ground without a tissue, so why couldn't a person use one to spit in? Most of us I'm sure had to blow our noses when we weren't around a garbage can and we put the tissue in our pocket all neatly folded... Still trying to figure this one out...
 
have been to wdw many times and will say last few times encountered the most rude people ever. Line cutters, parade cutters, foul language, parents pushing & shoving their kids in front of other kids who have been dilligently waiting.

This has been quite a topic at home here with my circle of friends. Obviously it is the parents fault. No limitations on their children, they are never wrong...so how else would the kids act.

It is a sad day when our kids have no respect for their peers or adults.

See this behaviour more and more over past few years.
Very sad indeed
 
I love your story. We had the same experience 3 years ago at MK. Parents pushing and shoving our little ones out of the way to see characters. We finally told them that we did not need to wait in line to see characters or get pictures. We just took pictures of the characters from a distance. This way we avoided the frustration because we knew that we could not change the way people acted and it made no sense to let it ruin our vacation. If we ran into a character without a crowd, we would stop. Once we found Sleeping Beauty with no line and she spent a few minutes talking with each of the kids. It was magical.

Once at Sea World a woman from some other country literally smashed my DS-6 against the wall where the dolphins are kept. He had just gotten his cast off of his arm and had it in a sling. He was just barely tall enough to see over the wall and she came up behind him and literally leaned on him and smashed him against the wall to get to the dolphins. My poor baby just cried. I wanted to slug her but decided that it would not be a good thing for my kids to see.
 
I don't understand the spitting either. When I see stuff like that it makes me gag. Spit in a tissue, just hang onto the darn thing for a few minutes. WDW had garbage cans all over the place. It is not like you have to walk around with it for the day or anything.

Gross story. A couple of weeks ago when we left WDW my DD wanted McDonalds for breakfast so we stop. The guy in front of me spit out the window. Than again and than again. And the line was wrapped around the building. So it was a nice long wait. Places his order after waiting forever (kinda like he didn't know what McDonalds offers for breakfast) and than proceeds to spit again. Drive around and he is opening his door spitting. By the time we got our food I wanted to throw up.
 
Unfortunately, we live in a very sad world with a lot of selfish and ignorant people. I work in an ER in downtown Boston, and I can't tell you how many times people have complained to me about waiting for the doctor. The doctor will be in a room with someone who is in cardiac arrest, and when I explain this to the guy with a twisted ankle who's been waiting...it just isn't pretty.
Don't let stupid people ruin your Disney experience. As others have stated, "Disney can't control their guests' atitudes anymore than they cann control the weather." pirate:
 
Even with a special needs child and seeing rude people I have come to the conclusion......

Relax and enjoy your trip you spend $$$ to be in WDW.
You will never ever see these people again, if they are rude, ignore it and move along.
There are many, many more good hearted wonderful people in the real world and in WDW than there are rude people try to find them and watch for people doing GREAT things...they are there, sometimes you just have to really, really look.
 
You are a mouse, living in a world where there are cats.

Bartoli said:
she came up behind him and literally leaned on him and smashed him against the wall to get to the dolphins. My poor baby just cried. I wanted to slug her but decided that it would not be a good thing for my kids to see.
(copied from another post)
Who else is going to teach her and when?

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