A Change in Direction

[Goofyluver]

Howdy! I am going to address the posts that I feel need addressing over the course of several posts because there are a lot of things that I do feel need a response. Sadly, there's this thing called a job that requires that I show up and actually work for a paycheck. That job things seriously cuts down on my DIS time. At the end of all of this, maybe it will all make a bit more sense and maybe we as a group will actually grow a little from these discussions.



Are you sure that there isn't something that we could do here that would make you feel like your voice was being heard and that you were an integral part of the group?



One thing that currently makes this board different is that the threads rarely are kept on topic. It's part of the DIS guidelines that threads are supposed to stay on topic. It's important, especially for newbies, to feel that they are not being "shouted down with silliness". Everyone's topic should be treated with respect and the discussion should be allowed to continue on topic until the thread reaches it's inevitable conclusion.

I see this as a community building idea because if the discussion is allowed to continue, it's going to help bring forth new ideas and points of view that will allow us all to learn more about each other and from each other. It's part of sharing as a community and that's very important, especially when the time comes when one of us needs support from the group.



I am not so much unhappy as I am frustrated with the issue of thread hijacking. I bleed lime green, the DIS is my home. I don't feel the need to play in more than one sandbox on a daily basis. I do however feel that as a moderator, I must force myself to think of the good of all of the members of the group and not just the vocal majority.



Um, Mike, did you even read the OP?
You are in serious need of an adult beverage or three or four. Yes, this forum is going to be essentially the same content, but I was asking about if the posters felt any desire to tip to focus towards planning rather than 90% silly stuff.

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End of comments on posts 1-15. More to come.....I know, you can't wait.

I see threads go off topic on every forum on the DIS. As I said before, although I'm not a frequent poster back here in the G&L forum, I'm definitely not new to the DIS. Those political threads over on the CB were my home and I'm sad to see them go. Those threads may start off speaking on gay marriage and end up shifting to gardening in the nude. That's what happens on message boards, conversations wax and wane.

I've never seen a thread back here in the G&L forum, where a poster asked for help, and everyone didn't immediately pile in and offer up whatever assistance/advice that they could. That's what is great about our community. We support each other. Here on the DIS. And out in the "real world"...away from these here message boards.

I said it in my last post, and I'll say it again...what a great group of posters we've got here. I wouldn't change a thing about this place. Y'all are all too fabulous.

 

[rosiep]

Based on the overwhelming sentiment to keep things as they are I’m wondering what the reason was for this suggestion. Have there been complaints (about Rosie)? I know we all kid around a lot but for the most part we behave (well, except for Rosie). There’s no benefit to micromanaging so I wonder what caused this (what did Rosie do)? If there were complaints is there anything we can do (hide Rosie’s keyboard)?
Obviously I’m kidding (except about the Rosie stuff) … I’m just trying to find some humor in this.

Who me?

 

[Timon-n-Pumbaa Fan]

I love the fifteen different directions and I've never seen a thread hijack where the OP seemed to mind. That's one of the wonderful things about conversation and it's fun to see where they end up. The worst forums are the ones where the moderators come in and post "stay on topic".

I also think that newbies and lurkers will be just fine. I'm not a frequent poster in this forum, but I always feel welcomed when I jump in and I bet anyone else would too.

My concern is that some people here are just too nice to say that they are frustrated about thread hijacking out in the open forum, but they will PM a moderator about it in a NY minute. If I get PM's from people that are frustrated about it that have been on the DIS for years and newbies, then it's an issue. While anyone can and should feel welcome to jump right in, it's not always easy for new people to feel welcome when their original topic is lost after just a few posts to the thread.

Community is what you make of it...

If our one of our own mods is struggling with the change of direction this forum has had, along with the change in direction they themselves are struggling, I don't have much hope that larger "changes" are going to be either imposed or put forth.

I don't often speak up in these forums, more often I attempt to help people, however I did about the recent change in regards to the politics and religion. Will the change prevent me from posting, no, because there is still some valuable resources, but the change has forced me to reconsider my decision to sponsor it, and use their auxillory services through weblinks.

My struggle with the direction that the DIS has taken things has been discussed and more or less handled outside of the public boards. My concerns for this board in particular have been dealt with and Mike and I are in agreement as to how we are handling the issue of politics and religion as it pertains to this board. My current concerns for this board are more based on the status quo vs the potential need to change a few things up to make even the far less vocal minority of the board feel welcome and more integrated into the community that this board serves.

As to your decision about using the DIS links to visit the sponsors of the DIS, that's 100% your perogative. Personally, I have never liked clicking links. If I want to go to a site, I do so directly or via a search engine, like Dogpile that donates money to causes that I support too.

I like our little community the way it is and if people are going to start feeling like they cannot be themselves or talk about what is going on in their lives with their online friends then I am afraid that this forum may very well die out.

People will always be welcome to discuss their hopes, struggles, dreams, and daily life stuff on this board. I don't see this forum dying anytime soon unless people find a new sandbox to play in. Over time, if you hang out on a message board long enough, you will see that people come and go. You hate to see most of them go, but we are all adults and make our own choices. Life is too short for internet drama.

The hijacking and general silliness is what makes this board special. (snip) If this board restricts posting and tries to control the flow of threads then I think most of us will disappear and that would be a shame. I think the fact that we have so many straight folks who hang out here shows what an amazing place it is.

I really don't think that actually keeping threads on topic is going to drive anyone away. If someone wants a random tangent thread, then start one and keep posting on any silly old thing. I can completely support that idea. However, for the purpose of keeping some sort of order, we should attempt keep other threads on topic to allow for topical discussions to fully emerge. It's a level of respect that every poster here should be able to expect.

And yes, we do have a lot of straight people hanging out here. The CSP are a wonderful part of this board. However, I do worry that as a community some of the silliness isn't sending out the wrong impression of our community as a whole. We have a few teenaged posters and I am sure that some children read this board. We should really work on trying to put our best foot forward. IMO

Grab a cup of coffee. Begin rant:

When I first came here to DIS and found that there was a LGBT forum, I was excited to find like minded people who I could talk all things Disney. I quickly noticed that actual Disney talk is probably about 20% of the threads on here is all. The rest are fluff and general sillyness, with the occasional serious personal topic or news of the day.

I will admit that I was sort of put off in the beginning. Where was all the Disney talk on the Disney forums? I then realized we can't talk Disney all the time and I found myself going to the actual Disneyland forum and chatting/posting with the members over there regarding trips, ideas, favorite Disney this or that. All Disney related. I get my fill of those sort of topics over there. Here? I'm getting to know people and have fun. It's a bonus when I can talk Disney with my LBGT brothers and sisters.

Althought I DO understand what you're (OP) saying, we as a group have such a family/friend dynamic that it's a refreshing way to meet people, have some fun, be silly and yes, even talk about Disney once in a while when the opportunity comes up.

The only thing that I can see when I was a newbie (am I no longer a newbie?), was that due to the close, tight knit family that is already well established here, it's very hard to break in to be seen and heard. You have to squeeze your way in, post numerous times, make yourself known to be noticed. Luckily, I can be loud and obnoxious and way to silly sometimes, so that helps. I will say though, everyone here is always friendly to newbies, which is so welcoming.

Just a suggestion: I wonder if there would be a way, that within the GLBT forum, that it could be divided into two sub catagories to choose from. Disney Discussion and General Discussion. That way, depending on your mood or what you want to talk about, you have two areas to dive into.

I'm just happy that as a group, any of us can come here and say what we want and speak our mind, without anyone resorting to lynch mob tactics like I've seen on other forums. We respect each others opinions and keep it civil.

I like that about here.

End Rant.

Z-Dude, you are a sweetheart. I appreciate you speaking up.

 

[jenn&nelsonrego]

What the heck is my "lifetsyle", anyone know?

The opposite of mine? NO, NO, that does not work at all... The exact same thing as mine... Yup, that is better... I don't understand the lifestyle thing either.... (although I think I may have used the term when stuck in the past - sorry Uncle! )

If I want to go to a site, I do so directly or via a search engine, like Dogpile that donates money to causes that I support too.

Goodsearch does this too!



P.S. I hijacked threads. Gonna start one now...

 

[jenn&nelsonrego]

If someone wants a random tangent thread, then start one and keep posting on any silly old thing. I can completely support that idea. However, for the purpose of keeping some sort of order, we should attempt keep other threads on topic to allow for topical discussions to fully emerge. It's a level of respect that every poster here should be able to expect.

All done!

 

[Timon-n-Pumbaa Fan]

I've always felt that this was a place where we can be who we are, without the scrutiny of those who don't want us around.

And quite honestly, the only reason I usually don't join in a lot of the silly bantering? I don't feel witty enough to hang with some of this crowd. You'd all leave me in a cloud of your dust of collective witty-ness.

I am sure that you are not the only one that doesn't feel like they can hang with the "witty crowd". That's why I think that it's a shame that so many threads get pulled off topic so quickly. We are missing out on substance because of the silliness.

I am really glad that you are a part of the board. I have very much enjoyed hearing about your journey as a foster family, well, the recent unpleasantness wasn't any fun to hear about, but it was important that you had a supportive place to share your struggle.

Okay so on the gay lesbian boards you(the boards) want no mention of religion/politics - Okay sure - then please tell the disabilities board to stop talking about their struggles either their own or a loved one and while on the topic tell the WISH board to stop talking about diets and exercise - and don't even get me started on that coping and compassion board

I feel that something is being taken away - not just in this forum - but the community as a whole

Case in point on the camping at Disney board a poster was asking for fellow Disers prayers and then said sorry if its not allowed here anymore

Sue, you have said nothing wrong. Again, the issues of politics and religion have never boiled over here. The changes that I was putting out there for discussion have little to do with the lack of official ability to discuss those topics. And as to what happened on the camping board, I don't know what happened over there, but prayer requests are still ok on the DIS. As long as no one tries to turn it into a "Catholic prayers are better than Morman prayers" thread, it's ok. Oh, and IMHO, you are a CSP too.

For what it's worth, I can understand where the OP is coming from on a certain level. When I first joined the DIS and found the LGBT board, it was kind of like seeing a group of the cool kids playing an expert round of double-dutch. They look like they are having a great time and it lsure seems like a lot of fun, but you just don't have the faintest idea how to jump in without tripping, and even if you do manage to get in without falling on your face, you have no idea if you could ever keep up.

After a few stumbles (but hopefully without actually landing on my face), I have settled into contented lurkdom, only posting when I really felt like I had something to contribute. I have never felt like a part of the group, but I still find the board interesting and entertaining, even if I may never 'get' many of the inside jokes. (I'm afraid to ask about the goat - and even he has better double-dutch skills than I do.) I enjoy the silliness and banter, and I especially like the fact that that banter is always good-natured.

But what has kept me coming back to this board every day is seeing that same group of folks, who tease each other like grade-school siblings, rally around someone in need, whether it is one of the gang, or a newcomer in pain. That, to me, is what makes this board, and its "regulars," unique and special. There have been days when I have been in tears at my desk, touched by the things that I read here, and it makes me proud to be even a peripheral part of this group.

As someone mentioned in an earlier post, maybe the idea of having a Community Board separate from the general LGBT board wouldn't be a bad idea, so postings by newcomers who have questions or just want to vent about LGBT-related travel issues won't get lost amid the general chatter. (Like my frustration that my travel documents for my upcoming trip arrived last week and my DP was listed throughout them as "Mr." And, no, she doesn't have one of those unisex first names.) But please don't make this board strictly a planning board. It may not always be exactly family-friendly, but I think this board is a 'family' nonetheless, and it is certainly more of a "community" than there seems to be in many Community forums on the web.

Thanks for sharing your insights. This board would never survive if it was 100% planning. It does need to be 100% family friendly though. That part is a must. It has had a lot of content that I am uncomfortable with, but maybe it's just because I work with kids and know that we have teenaged posters and children lurking. I am glad to see you post when you do. Please feel free to come out and say more.

My two cents. Flame suit on.

First off, I think Lindy took a big chance with her posting, and I for one applaud her for having the brass to do so. I understand what she is saying. I have been on the DIS longer then many here. I think OKW~DVC~96 beats my member number by a few hundred.

Anyway, I for one am tired of the constant innuendo. And think we need to rise above it, if we ever want to change the narrow minded opinions that look upon us and our lives/lifestyles. Maybes its an age thing, maybe it's a stage of life thing, I don't know. But the DIS is not always a welcoming place for me.

I know I am in the minority, but I happen to agree with the global changes put in effect pertaining to politics and religion on the DIS. It got way out of hand. Again maybe becuase I am an 'old timer" on the DIS, I have seen it change over the years (closer to a decade). Not all the changes for the better. But as Mike has said, in the LGBT area when was the last real such heated discussion. Religion and Politics are rarely discussed in this area. The Barney Frank thread was the last one I can think of, and if thats the "worst" we do on politics, the new rules should be a cakewalk for us.

I agree with a PP that stated maybe the LGBT area be divided into a Disney Related and an Off Topic section. Have I talked about issues non-disney related yes (Wii, NCAAW basketball, etc.) Will I continue too yes. But I also have discussed issues relating to LGBT issues as they pertain to Disney. Yes we are lucky to have our own area, where we are free to be ourselves, and discuss issues that relate to us. But bottom lime is the DIS is a family friendly, Disney related site. It is an open forum that anyone (including children) can read. I think sometimes we (collectively not specifically) lose sight of that.

Maybe I am in a minority, but I feel strongly that as a member of the LGBT community, I hold myself to higher public moral standard/decency level (for lack of a better word at the moment), in order to portray our community (LGBT) in a better light. To show that we are not the negative force that many think we are. That is not to say I am in the closet or anything. I am out typically 100%. But there is a time and place for everything. And levels I set for myself and expectations I have for others. If that makes sense.

I understand the driving force behind Lindy's original post. Do I think we need censorship or more moderation, not neccesarily. Do I think we all need to play a bigger role in keeping our area family friendly and comfortable for everyone, yes. As many friendships have been formed here, the opposite also holds true that there are also alienations, and down right unforgettable acts. Again I will agree with the PP who suggested two seperate areas for the LGBT section of the DIS. Ok that was my 2 cents, stepping off my soapbox now.

Well, you won't get any flames from me. I am glad that yet another member of the quiet minority "gets it".

I hate feeling like you have to walk on eggshells before you post something on here sometimes.

If you EVER feel that your words are being used against you and you feel that someone is being rude, sarcastic, argumentative with you, there is a little triangle down on the lower left side of every post. Click that and report your concerns. If Mike or I know that there is a problem, we can help.

 

[Uncle Remus]

Yikes, I feel like I'm not in the cool group.

Someone just try to make me wear Birkenstocks or a dress.

 

[Saxton]

My concern is that some people here are just too nice to say that they are frustrated about thread hijacking out in the open forum, but they will PM a moderator about it in a NY minute. If I get PM's from people that are frustrated about it that have been on the DIS for years and newbies, then it's an issue. While anyone can and should feel welcome to jump right in, it's not always easy for new people to feel welcome when their original topic is lost after just a few posts to the thread.

I thought you originally created this thread as a random thought that you had as a DISer, not as a Mod, but now I really would like some clarification. In your original post you seemed to want to move away from 'fun' threads and toward trip planning:

I just feel that the main focus of the group should be tipped back towards being more of a trip planning oriented space rather than being more of a social space.

So I'm confused. Have you received complaints about hijacking on the GLBT board? And if so, exactly how many? One person? Two? Twenty? I know you haven't been a Mod very long so if you've suddenly recieved a bunch of complaints then I think we deserve a clear explanation of how many and exactly what hijacking people are upset about so we know the extent of the problem. And if hijacking isn't the problem but rather content, then why is it suddenly an issue since we've been around a long time. I'm not asking you to name anyone so there's no need to worry about privacy, just a clear explanation of the problem if there is one.

 

[Timon-n-Pumbaa Fan]

I have no problem with the silliness, and I have no problem with people posting and discussing non disney things here, but the constant thread hijacking does bother me. I can see where the OP is coming from on that front. So many times I have seen a thread topic that interested me and was excited to see that it was multi pages long, only to find out that after the first three posts the thread had been hijacked and there is nothing in there based on the original topic. Sometimes I have tried to get the thread back on track by posting my thoughts to the original topic, only to have my post ignored and the hijacking continue. I have turned into pretty much of a lurker.

And this is exactly what I worry that lots of other people from our community have experienced, fear, or have just been totally put off by here. Thanks for speaking up. Please, I would love to have EVERYONE that wants to be a poster here to be a poster here. Take an active roll!

Ok I know that I am the irrational one in the “family”, after all I am a Scorpio. Anyway, I, as you all know, think these new rules are ridiculous. I really try to live my life as out and open as I can but then here I have to be quiet about My girlfriend getting verbally attacked about Gay days by some of her teammates because THAT’S POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS! I think it is a shame that the DIS now wants to shove us back into a virtual closet so we shut up about these things. It is a message board, and if someone could not handle people being nasty they could simply not open a thread or block the person. Now the entire DIS is nothing but silliness. Seriously, I do not care that there are no yellow peeps at target.

When did anyone tell you that you couldn't tell your story? As long as it doesn't turn into a drama filled debate, you are more than welcome to post your story. I am sorry that some of her teammates are buttheads. It's women's football, um, did they not realize that there were going to be lesbians on the team? HELLO!

FYI: Another "irrational" Scorpio here.

I think I said what the OP said a few days ago. Maybe newbies / lurkers would feel more comfy if this board was under the just for fun forums or something. It's under the trip planning forums however most posts are not about trip planning.

If only it were so easy to move a board or create new subforums. Basically, it takes an act of congress.

Unfortunately this is the job of the moderator to tell the hijackers that they need to return to topic, I understand how it happens, but those that continously do it need to realize they are doing it.

By making a sweeping change to this board are we "punishing the masses for the sins of a few"???

As Tiggr33 said - Lindy I am glad you posted this thread - it got us all talking and staying on point about one topic that is important to all of us.

As it has been, the moderators have done little, if anything to keep threads on topic. Obviously from the variety of responses that this thread has gathered, there are some changes that could and probably should be made to the way that we do business in the way of keeping threads on topic. We can't ignore the quite minority. They deserve respect as DIS'er just like the vocal majority.

 

[Timon-n-Pumbaa Fan]

The only direction I see these boards going in that I don't like is they're being micro managed.

I was a newbie here once. I found this board to be welcoming, informative and irreverent...and I loved it.
I have started threads regarding shoes, Aids Walk, monkeys and my daughter's health. I have participated in threads about everything else under the sun.
These days the talk is serious and somber and the threads all seem to revolve around what we're doing WRONG. I never thought there was anything wrong here...only a great community of people who shared themselves and their lives.

Honestly, I am trying my best not to "over moderate", however, I do feel that there could be some improvement in the function of the flow of this board. I would hope that you have read the posts of people that are not very comfortable here or have had issues becoming a participant here due to the current environment, and I am not speaking about just the people put off by the new DIS politics and religion ruling either.

 

[Timon-n-Pumbaa Fan]

I thought you originally created this thread as a random thought that you had as a DISer, not as a Mod, but now I really would like some clarification. In your original post you seemed to want to move away from 'fun' threads and toward trip planning:

Before I ever became a moderator for this board, I had many of the same concerns and thoughts about this board that I still do now. Now, I have the added responsiblity of being a moderator, which does elevate my DIS'er concerns a bit because I have to think of the "greater good" vs personal opinion. Today's post were made from my "Moderator perspective" rather than my personal one. Yes, I would still like to see more planning related threads. Yes, I worry about the newbies....I was one once too and it was a rather awkward experience here. I do feel that far too often that the innuendo goes overboard. I do feel that the thread hijacking is out of control.

So I'm confused. Have you received complaints about hijacking on the GLBT board? And if so, exactly how many? One person? Two? Twenty? I know you haven't been a Mod very long so if you've suddenly recieved a bunch of complaints then I think we deserve a clear explanation of how many and exactly what hijacking people are upset about so we know the extent of the problem. And if hijacking isn't the problem but rather content, then why is it suddenly an issue since we've been around a long time. I'm not asking you to name anyone so there's no need to worry about privacy, just a clear explanation of the problem if there is one.

Out of respect for those people that have said things to me in private via PM, I will not name any names as to who has griped in the past. I think that would be counterproductive and take away any trust that people might feel or need to feel in the future if they need assistance from a moderator here in the future. I have not been a moderator here for very long, it's only been a couple of months.

Thread hijacking bugs me. It bugs others. It's off putting to the newbies. I worry that it stifles meaningful dialog.

Innuendo bugs me. It bugs others. It's a "bad show" for the free world to lurk in on this forum and see this "stuff". We should be attempting to give the world a much better picture of ourselves and our community. We are family, no doubt, but we have some brothers and sisters who are doing nothing to increase our status in the eyes of the world.

Overall, I know that things change on messageboards and forums all of the time. I would like to think that some small changes like less/no innuendo and keeping threads on topic might make this a better place for everyone. Maybe we all might learn something new from and about each other that was of a little more value than who's the best at riding out to the far edge of witty innuendo.

 

[OrlandoMike]

Innuendo bugs me. It bugs others. It's a "bad show" for the free world to lurk in on this forum and see this "stuff". We should be attempting to give the world a much better picture of ourselves and our community.

I'm gonna try to keep this short and sweet.....



Innuendo is not "bad show". In my profession it keeps the magic going! After a day of Disney, the "adults" in the group appreciate a little innuendo..and I think that applies to a lot of us here...life is rough, and we come here for fun and antics!

I just came home tonight and read four new threads, one about a trip to Disney, one about AbFab, one about Ptown, and one about a Honeymoon....all threads were on topic and questions were answered promptly!

Will they be hijacked in the morning?

Sure! You bet ya!

Am I looking forward to reading the hijacking fun! Heck ya!




Am I looking forward to reading this thread any more?





Not so much!



Like Momma used to say....if it aint broke....don't fix it!

 

[mykidsintow]

I'm gonna try to keep this short and sweet.....



Innuendo is not "bad show". In my profession it keeps the magic going! After a day of Disney, the "adults" in the group appreciate a little innuendo..and I think that applies to a lot of us here...life is rough, and we come here for fun and antics!

I just came home tonight and read four new threads, one about a trip to Disney, one about AbFab, one about Ptown, and one about a Honeymoon....all threads were on topic and questions were answered promptly!

Will they be hijacked in the morning?

Sure! You bet ya!

Am I looking forward to reading the hijacking fun! Heck ya!




Am I looking forward to reading this thread any more?





Not so much!



Like Momma used to say....if it aint broke....don't fix it!

Well Said!!!!!

 

[rosiep]

I'm sure that if an original poster wants his thread to stay on topic all he need do is ask : No hijacking please.
I'm sure us merry pranksters would be respectful and leave it alone.

Otherwise......as the wise Beatles said "Let it Be".

 

[DVC~OKW~96]

Wow. You see? This very thread is the epitome of what this GLBT board is. We have discussions about difficult topics, we don't all agree, and yet we remain civil, respectful and have our every important undercurrent of humor.

You've even managed to show me that I was off the mark in feeling invisible. And for that I thank you.

We do have innuendo, we do go off topic, we do get wicked silly. Rosie says it very well, if the OP of a given thread doesn't want the thread derailed, a simple statement or request to that effect will keep it from happening.

I think it is important to respect the opinions of those who "disagree" with the majority. After all, isn't that us? Aren't we the minority who so often disagrees with the majority? Those few who think the innuendo and derailments detract from this board do have a perspective worth considering, and worth respecting, eh?

 

[padalyn]

I also think that Rosie's idea has merit. However, I also think that the sexual overtones need to be suppressed a little bit. I have as filthy a mind as the next lesbian - but - this is a public forum without any filters. Parents see the site as kid safe site - we should make it our responsibility to keep it that way.

If you want to get that down and dirty - this may not be the best place for it.

 

[Saxton]

Am I looking forward to reading this thread any more?





Not so much!



Like Momma used to say....if it aint broke....don't fix it!

Ditto! I agree with you Mike.

 

[jamieandben]

I'm gonna try to keep this short and sweet.....



Innuendo is not "bad show". In my profession it keeps the magic going! After a day of Disney, the "adults" in the group appreciate a little innuendo..and I think that applies to a lot of us here...life is rough, and we come here for fun and antics!

I just came home tonight and read four new threads, one about a trip to Disney, one about AbFab, one about Ptown, and one about a Honeymoon....all threads were on topic and questions were answered promptly!

Will they be hijacked in the morning?

Sure! You bet ya!

Am I looking forward to reading the hijacking fun! Heck ya!




Am I looking forward to reading this thread any more?





Not so much!



Like Momma used to say....if it aint broke....don't fix it!

I think i'm ready for that KISS now.
Well said!

 

[wallyb]

So I'm confused. Have you received complaints about hijacking on the GLBT board? And if so, exactly how many? One person? Two? Twenty? I know you haven't been a Mod very long so if you've suddenly recieved a bunch of complaints then I think we deserve a clear explanation of how many and exactly what hijacking people are upset about so we know the extent of the problem. And if hijacking isn't the problem but rather content, then why is it suddenly an issue since we've been around a long time. I'm not asking you to name anyone so there's no need to worry about privacy, just a clear explanation of the problem if there is one.

Yes - odd how this all just seemed to crop up suddenly.

Curious that.

 

[Timon-n-Pumbaa Fan]

I am sorry that some people don't necessarily agree with the method, but it has achieved what I had hoped in many ways. As far as I am concerned, the need to let some people have a voice in the open forum was worth all of the crap that got flung in my general direction.

Have a good day!