I will agree with you, but most importantly I definitely agree with what I bolded above.
I think the issue I have with this vaccine is that it is different than the other vaccines. I know many vaccines are mandatory (with some waivers for various reasons, I believe... don't know much about those though because I've never tried to be waived of any vaccines for my children) for children to go to PS and such, but those are NOT vaccines for something that are sexually related... for diseases or conditions that are contracted from having sexual relations. My 2nd problem with this is that our governor has apparently decided he's GOD and need not go thru the proper channels to make sure that this decision is what has been decided by people other than just himself and what the people want. He has even said that if a bill is passed to overturn his decision that he will veto it. I hate people in political positions that try to force their personal opinions on everyone against their will. They are supposed to be serving the majority, not dictating their whims and the masses must obey come hell or high water (as in God complex). And I actually liked Governor Perry before this! Honestly! But come on, atleast try to pretend you care what the people that elected you want and/or believe is right for their children. We elected you, don't then turn around and act like we can't make wise decisions... if we're fools that need a handholding then what does that say about us electing you? (said to Gov. Perry ofcourse)
I understand what the vaccine is for and how it may help many, but I just don't like the WAY it's being forced on us against our will.
I agree with you also, especially your last sentence.
I am not naive in thinking that all girls, including my own, will remain abstinent until marriage. However, my 13yr old has NO TIME NOR PLACE for such things to occur, unless it was somehow possible to happen at school. And them's the facts jack. I know that not all parents keep up with their kids and there whereabouts like we do though... but likewise I don't think it's the goverments place to then make it mandatory for everyone due to some children not being cared for properly by their parents. I mean how is a 5th grader having a CHANCE to be promiscous at that age? If they have the opportunity at that age- then the parents aren't parenting their children, IMO. My daughter goes nowhere that is not extremely supervised by those that would never allow such things to take place- such as in school, school activities supervised by myself or DH if there would be an opportunity for any behavior we would deem unacceptable at her age, Girl scouts meetings, church, and THAT'S IT. I don't even allow her to spend the night at other girls houses- they want to sleep over with Ruby... they'll do it here (that's for other reasons as well- such as I don't know these children's parents and whether they have guns in the home/etc.)
Now all of this may change in the future as she is getting older, but at that point *I* would make the decision to protect her in any way I deem necessary (and this would probably be one of them!) -I have problems with it being mandated by the governor before *I* know that she would even have opportunity to do such activities!
(for example: if I were to start letting her spend the night at friends homes, start dating, and/or going to any activity- even if supposedly supervised- without us there to monitor her behavior ourselves- I would probably at that point want to make sure that she was protected "just in case" she became sexually active without my knowledge. But until that point, the vaccine is totally unnecessary for her and I don't like someone telling me I have to give her a vaccine protecting her against something I'm already making sure CANNOT HAPPEN. KWIM?)
For instance if they made it mandatory at a later time (higher age group) I could be more willing to agree and understand their reasoning on this because a lot more children have the means and opportunity to be promiscuous when they are older teens and less supervised at times. But to say they need at the 5th grade age level to me is just giving the go ahead for parents who IMO are not parenting their young children as they should to go ahead and continue to not parent as they should- it's okay... we'll just force this vaccine to protect your children you obviously don't care a whole lot about. Seriously, that's how I feel! No 5th grader should be ABLE to have the opportunity to engage in such activities! That's entirely too young to be unsupervised in areas where they would be with the opposite gender and have the opportunity to engage in such activities with said opposite gender! We're talking 10yr olds! That age, atleast in Texas, they aren't even supposed to be left alone at home yet!
It always bothers me when things become mandatory for my children for reasons involving other parents not protecting their children themselves or because of other parents lack of parenting for their children. And I'm sorry but there is parental issues if a 5th grader has the means and opportunity to be promiscuous! Period. Be a parent for crying out loud! (is what I say to the parents where their 5th grader would be able to be promiscuous) Unless someone can tell me this can be contracted thru holding hands and kissing, and until then, I say that children this young should not be in a situation where they are unsupervised enough to be able to 'do the deed'- KWIM?
I have very strong feelings on this subject and we are personally being affected by this, so I'm not just talking about something going on somewhere else or "might" happen here someday- it's happening to us now. and I hope I haven't offended anyone reading my post. <Edited in by CaptainCrash... No, you certainlyhave NOT>We are Christians and teach abstinence to our children and then back it up by being so involved in our children's lives that at least up until this point (of course we have not had an older teenager yet!) it would be completely impossible for our children to NOT be abstinent... whether they like it or not. KWIM?
As you can probably guess, I also oppose strongly things like passing out condoms at school... giving out birth control to minor children without having to make parents aware their child was given such/etc- (and definitely opposed to allowing minors to have abortions without parents even being made aware of such) which I'm sure many will disagree with me but I just have a major problem with others giving my children "permission" to engage in activities where a condom/etc. would be needed.
You may think I'm wrong, but I'm entitled to my opinion when it involves MY minor children. They are mine, not the governments or anyone else's. I'm responsible for them until they are 18, let me parent then!
These are just my opinions relating to MY children. Please do not interpret this post as in any way saying that someone else's opinions relating to their children must be wrong if they disagree with me. My opinions are mine, and non-debatable... but everyone (IMO) is entitled to their opinions and feelings about their own children as is their right. I know that my feelings/opinions are not "right" for everyone, only for us.
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Sorry to hear that Lisa! My GM died the day after Christmas and thankfully, put an end to her several illnesses. Our best to you and DH!
Though she does miss her Wal-Mart Neighborhood Market, the SuperTargets makes up for it 
Read this article this morning and it sort of goes with the discussion from yesterday. List of most and least affordable cities for home prices. It is based on home prices as compared to average income.
Yippe!! Totally caught up! And just in time for lunch! 
