8/17/08 Captain Jack's Repossession Repo Cruise to PC thru TPC #3

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LG, I had an answer for this and lost it. I realize that medicine keeps evolving and there are new and wonderous developments. My grandmother and Alan's mom both had infants stillborn or never the leave the hospital. I honestly blamed myself for the downturn Alan's mom took after Christopher died--she died several months afterwards. She was dealing with colon and lung cancer and she gave up when Christopher died.

Yes, I believe that hospitals staffs are very overworked. I don't see how they can be thorough in what they do when they put in so many hours. I think that has a lot to do with insurance co. dictating so much about medical care and also with a lot of workers relying on their overtime pay to make ends meet at home. I do think that it is irresponsible of a hospital or supervisor to have someone do a job they are not trained to do.

I never gave a thought until Julie was naming her friend's children and them all boys. And you to mention that they hope for girls when they face problems. Really makes you wonder why? I have been thinking all day about preemies I know and I have to say they have been all girls--only 1 boy. I was 42 weeks pregnant with Christopher--my dr. sent me for 2 stress tests, but I didn't know that over 40 weeks was harder on the baby. Adam was a scheduled c-sect. at 38 weeks.

I think it is a hard hurdle to get over for a young married couple. Probably a reason for divorce in a lot of the couples. It would be probably one of their biggest life's challenges. As the mother, we have so much guilt and feel that we failed in something that so many women do so easily.

Even after Adam was born, that night just kept running through my head. I didn't have the nerve to request my medical records for almost 2 years. The hospital was getting ready to disconnect the monitor and send me home--false labor then Christopher's heartbeat was lost--it took them 38 minutes to even start prepping me for an emergency c-sect (there was no dr there and it was 3 am) I sure didn't know any better--I'd never had a baby before. But you do expect when you go to a hospital that they are prepared for things---it just isn't always the case. I took the records to my dr. --he got defensive with me (I never understood why he did because he wasn't there at the hospital) To me 38 minutes was a long time--that was all I questioned. I have never gone back to him. I never contemplated suing--I couldn't have spent a dime of any money---I just wanted to hear it wasn't my fault.

I am so happy for you and Coral that you both had happy outcomes and have sweet princesses.:flower3: :flower3:

Oh Paula- I am so sorry. I did not know you have had that loss. I hope it is not upsetting to read about others that "made it". :grouphug:
I know exactly what you mean by being a 1st time Mom and not know what to do.
I went to my Dr. on a Friday morning unbeknown to me in full blown labor at 20 weeks. He checked me and I was 50% effaced and dialted to a 3. His office was on the same floor at a hospital of Labor and Delivery and he SENT ME HOME!! I stupidly went. By the time we went to the emergency room on Sunday morning I was 75% effaced and dialted to a 6- at 20 weeks! It still took the Dr. 6 hours to get to the hospital to decide what to do. :sad2:
The options were limited then so I was put in a bed upside down (deep trendelenberg) hooked up to IV's cathethers etc and I did not move for 3 1/2 weeks.
My Dr. was a total idiot and told me the whole time there was no way I was going to make it to viability and if I did the baby would die immediately. Idiot!
When I went for a followup I asked him why he did not do anything that 1st day and he said I was just looking to blame someone. :sad2: Needless to say, that was the last time I ever saw him.

Paula- you were probably like me with your 2nd pregnancy. I was too scared to be excited because they had no clue what caused Megan to be early.
I, wisely decided that 2 children was just perfect with me. :)
 
aww Shelley :hug:

I myself am starting to have serious doubts about taking ANY family members with me....

I finally went out to the DCL excursion lists to look around and just looked at the Cabo ones.

Well apparently that started WW3 in that DH refuses to even consider anything that i want to do. And i'm not going on this trip to sit on the boat the whole time with his grumpy add in the room. I'd rather stay home if that's what i'd have to put up with.

Any chance dining could put my dh and dd at another rotation and let me eat with the fun crowd?

Apparently since he doesn't swim he WON't do anything that involves water or boats. (although he did do ok on the Glass bottom boat in the Bahamas)

I'd like to do the BOB's (ok no snarky quotes swabbies) or the yacht race thing or at least the Los arcos boat tour.

Does anyone else feel like they're saddled with the wet blanket?

and does your wet blanket make you feel as guilty as mine? Apparently my leaving them behind would be as terrible as trying to force them to go on the excursion.

Anyone think i've got enough time to get a divorce and take custody of the DCL TOAL ressie?

i could just scream today......:hyper:
 
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Roger I hope things work out for you. This is one of the main reasons that DD14 has gone to catholic school her whole life. My older two went public and had a great elemantary school until the school district decided to play around with the boundaries. Well they came out with a realigned district in which we were not in it - so we bought a house next to my moms in order to have them go there. Just 6 months after they realigned - they re-realigned and guess what? We weren't in it again. This time they would have had to go only 1 mile further - but had to cross the outskirts of what is commonly known as the one-ways. No way I was going to allow that so I flounced off to my elementary school and enrolled her. She's been going ever since. Much safer that way although more expensive. I tried to get her to go to a public high school but she said - yeah right! :lmao:

We're going through big boundary fights here right now. The school district lost their lawsuit over the land they wanted for a third high school so now they moved the site to the northern part of the district which means some of the 'richer' neighborhoods will now have to go to the 'older' school (built in 1975) instead of the newer school (built in 1983) or the newest school to be built. They are all up in arms over it and causing a lot of arguments.

Frankly I don't care because we are on the best districts in IL (not really saying much) and my son swims on a swim team at the oldest school b/c the program at his school (the 1983 one) is run like an Olympic program instead of the recreational program it is supposed to be.

Our district has two high schools now, each with over 4000 kids. My HS graduating class was 183 people. I enjoyed that because basically any kid could play any sport, have a spot in the musical, etc. b/c there wasn't much competition.
 
Tuesday night is the highschool orientation for middle school students- let's see how things go then to find out if it's going to be a BIG HUGE ISSUE with her missing possibly a few days of school (it's still up in the air if she'll miss any. if the rumors are true she may miss only one day, if not true she may miss up to an entire week of school) -- we'll see how that goes and whatever the news is I'll take it either as a good sign or a bad sign of whether or not we should go. yanno? :rotfl2:QUOTE]

Well if your school district is following all the ones in the metroplex around me- she would miss the entire 1st week. My oldest DD will miss the entire 1st week of Middle School.
 

I posted a story before about my brother dying in the OR when he was 9. When I was having a surgery some 20 years later the anestheologist and I were talking about my brother. She told me his case became a landmark case & changed the way children with his type cancer were anesthetized. The doctor who anesthetized him was so distraught over his enexpected death he spent years researching why. I know hearing this story had a great impact on my mother, but I don't think I realized fully until I read your post. Thank-you.
Lisa, I remember that. It is a wonderful tribute to your brother that has saved the lives of many. I am sure it was a a great comfort to your mom that his death brought about change. :grouphug:
 
I remember reading someplace a theory that boy have less genertic material, and that might contribute to this.

Gee, does that make men the weaker sex? :rolleyes: :stir:

I won't argue with you on this point except to say, next time, you can kill your own spiders. :lmao:
 
WHOOO HOOOO !!! I can come out of the closet now!!

Thanks Crash!!! The first one will be PERFECT for the rehearsal dinner and the second one will be great for the wedding!!
:cool1: :cool1: :cool1:

Gee.....I hope MEGAN approves!!!

Wow, Stace, if you are wearing those outfits on the cruise, I might just have to go find a way to get a stateroom.
 
Paula - I hesitated to say anything because I didn't want to stir up any more memories but thank you for sharing your pain you've gone through and the fact that your sharing is bound to be an inspiration to someone who has gone through this and opens a window of insight to those of use that have not gone through this.

:grouphug: and :grouphug: and pixiedust: for your pain.

Laura, after 20 years Christopher has been easier to talk about. And honestly it helps and I hope it helps others.:flower3:
 
I won't argue with you on this point except to say, next time, you can kill your own spiders. :lmao:

Ain't that the truth! This morning my DD told me to come look at something. I followed her to the front door and in the middle of our driveway was a dead mouse. I have NEVER seen a mouse that was not in a cage. I was THRILLED I was married at that point! :rotfl2:
 
Oh Paula- I am so sorry. I did not know you have had that loss. I hope it is not upsetting to read about others that "made it". :grouphug:
I know exactly what you mean by being a 1st time Mom and not know what to do.
I went to my Dr. on a Friday morning unbeknown to me in full blown labor at 20 weeks. He checked me and I was 50% effaced and dialted to a 3. His office was on the same floor at a hospital of Labor and Delivery and he SENT ME HOME!! I stupidly went. By the time we went to the emergency room on Sunday morning I was 75% effaced and dialted to a 6- at 20 weeks! It still took the Dr. 6 hours to get to the hospital to decide what to do. :sad2:
The options were limited then so I was put in a bed upside down (deep trendelenberg) hooked up to IV's cathethers etc and I did not move for 3 1/2 weeks.
My Dr. was a total idiot and told me the whole time there was no way I was going to make it to viability and if I did the baby would die immediately. Idiot!
When I went for a followup I asked him why he did not do anything that 1st day and he said I was just looking to blame someone. :sad2: Needless to say, that was the last time I ever saw him.

Paula- you were probably like me with your 2nd pregnancy. I was too scared to be excited because they had no clue what caused Megan to be early.
I, wisely decided that 2 children was just perfect with me. :)

Coral, the stories of the "survivor" babies deserve to be celebrated. They are wonderful and I am so glad that you all shared. I totally understand not going back to your dr. and I am sure that even today when you think about his actions your heart rages with anger. And yes, I was scared with Adam's entire pregnancy all the way up to delivery and my dr. let me know right from the start that Adam would be a scheduled c-section. I'm thankful everyday that I have Adam and my heart breaks for couples that so desperately want children that can't have them.:flower3: :grouphug:

(I miss the small hug, but I am too lazy to search for it)
 
Crash (Tom) you probably remember us talking about school closures last year some time, well the school district has made its final (maybe) selection. DD7 elementary school will be one of the two schools to be closed in fall of 2009. :sad: All of the parents have started a massive campaign to change their minds but it will be a long shot. There is a lot of politics involved and we will have to wait and see what happens. If they do close our elementary school DD will have to either take a bus or car pool to a new undisclosed location no where near our house. We are really disturbed about the emotional effect on DD let alone the fact that there will no elementary school within 5 miles of us and what that might do to property values.

Roger....I'm so sorry to hear this! I hope they change their minds....for your sake, and especially Austyn's.
 
You can wear whatever you want. You're the one that will look like they just rolled out of the psych unit, not me!

Oh wait....I should have kept reading before I posted my last comment....Just kidding! ;) :goodvibes
 
aww Shelley :hug:

I myself am starting to have serious doubts about taking ANY family members with me....

I finally went out to the DCL excursion lists to look around and just looked at the Cabo ones.

Well apparently that started WW3 in that DH refuses to even consider anything that i want to do. And i'm not going on this trip to sit on the boat the whole time with his grumpy add in the room. I'd rather stay home if that's what i'd have to put up with.

Any chance dining could put my dh and dd at another rotation and let me eat with the fun crowd?

Apparently since he doesn't swim he WON't do anything that involves water or boats. (although he did do ok on the Glass bottom boat in the Bahamas)

I'd like to do the BOB's (ok no snarky quotes swabbies) or the yacht race thing or at least the Los arcos boat tour.

Does anyone else feel like they're saddled with the wet blanket?

and does your wet blanket make you feel as guilty as mine? Apparently my leaving them behind would be as terrible as trying to force them to go on the excursion.

Anyone think i've got enough time to get a divorce and take custody of the DCL TOAL ressie?

i could just scream today......:hyper:

Alan, just lets me plan our stuff. He and Adam are just tickled to be going on their fishing trip in Cabo---I am ziplining while they are doing that. I don't see anything wrong in doing different excursions. Now Adam doesn't really like to snorkel, so if he gets in the water he does and if he just enjoys the boat ride that's OK too.:)
 
Hers (Megan's) is going to be called MY BIG FAT GEEK WEDDING :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:
The fiance is in the computer biz.

Does he work for Sterling Software by any chance? I ask only because it is located near where they live, and my BIL works there.
 
We're going through big boundary fights here right now. The school district lost their lawsuit over the land they wanted for a third high school so now they moved the site to the northern part of the district which means some of the 'richer' neighborhoods will now have to go to the 'older' school (built in 1975) instead of the newer school (built in 1983) or the newest school to be built. They are all up in arms over it and causing a lot of arguments.

Frankly I don't care because we are on the best districts in IL (not really saying much) and my son swims on a swim team at the oldest school b/c the program at his school (the 1983 one) is run like an Olympic program instead of the recreational program it is supposed to be.

Our district has two high schools now, each with over 4000 kids. My HS graduating class was 183 people. I enjoyed that because basically any kid could play any sport, have a spot in the musical, etc. b/c there wasn't much competition.

My graduating class was 114. Adam's graduating class is over 400. There are over 1500 students at his school. 4000 is A LOT of kids! We have 22 HS, 24 MS, and 90 elementary public schools. I didn't realize there were that many elementary--had to count them twice.
 
I don't see anything wrong in doing different excursions. Now Adam doesn't really like to snorkel, so if he gets in the water he does and if he just enjoys the boat ride that's OK too.:)

Neither do i but he refuses to even try sometimes and just calls me insensitive. :sad:

My graduating class was 114. Adam's graduating class is over 400. There are over 1500 students at his school. 4000 is A LOT of kids!

I had somewhere is the high 300's in my grad class. DD has over 600 in the incoming freshman class.

Our county has maybe 10-12 high schools spread out. All of them seem to be pushing their upper limits if not overcrowded already.

We had a couple elementary schools just open in the last couple years that were already 105-110% (meaning over capacity). Maryland solution seems to be "let them add portables" but it gets sad when some schools have more portables than built classrooms.

One Elementary school that was near us when we lived in Germantown, Md was adding 3-5 more portables each year. When we last lived there they had over 24 portables. There were plans for another school wing but the new wing was only even for 10 classrooms. ***. :crazy2:
 
WHY did I turn the TV on this morning and just happened to switch over to QVC. They are featuring Disney jewelry right now!


I'm trying not to spend any more morning until TOAL.


edited: had previously typed QVC jewelry, not Disney jewelry......DUH, its on QVC so of course it's QVC jewelry
 
I had somewhere is the high 300's in my grad class. DD has over 600 in the incoming freshman class.

Our county has maybe 10-12 high schools spread out. All of them seem to be pushing their upper limits if not overcrowded already.

We had a couple elementary schools just open in the last couple years that were already 105-110% (meaning over capacity). Maryland solution seems to be "let them add portables" but it gets sad when some schools have more portables than built classrooms.

One Elementary school that was near us when we lived in Germantown, Md was adding 3-5 more portables each year. When we last lived there they had over 24 portables. There were plans for another school wing but the new wing was only even for 10 classrooms. ***. :crazy2:

I don't think any of our schools have portables.
 
Does he work for Sterling Software by any chance? I ask only because it is located near where they live, and my BIL works there.


That may be who he USED to work for. He lost his contract with the last company and is now considering a company that's in Omaha...where my whole family lives.
:hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: It truly would make my life easier, and I think Megan would be happier....to have all of them together.
So I'm keeping my fingers crossed!
 
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