7 month window could go away

[KANSAS]

i was stunned, on a recent thread and about had a massive heart attack

is it true, that the DVC resort book rules, could be dramatically changed in the middle of the program and the 7 month window, could be reduced to 1 month window

Please DEAN, RICH YAMS, WEBMASTER DOC AND ALL OTHE DVC experts, please respond to this thread

 

[RoutemanDan]

The home resort advantage of 11 months giving you 4 months over others can be reduced to a 1 month advantage.

 

[Dean]

The POS says in effect 7 to 10 months is the time period where members can reserved none home resorts. The reality is that DVC can change the Rules and Regulartions by simply voting on it in a Board meeting. They could also suspend booking non home resort resorts if they chose.

 

[TIdoublegaER]

The home resort advantage of 11 months giving you 4 months over others can be reduced to a 1 month advantage

If I am reading this correctly, then instead of a 11/7 mo window, it could be an 11/10 mo window?

 

[PamOKW]

Don't have a heart attack. It is among several possibilities outlined in the purchase documents. Banking and borrowing could also end or be suspended. It is not likely these things will happen but they just point out the importance of being happy with what you purchase.

Any resort beyond The Disney Vacation Club was just a gleam in a Disney exec's eye when I purchased. To date, I've had no problems as more and more resorts have been folded into the program.

 

[RoutemanDan]

Originally posted by TIdoublegaER
If I am reading this correctly, then instead of a 11/7 mo window, it could be an 11/10 mo window?

Yes it could.Will it? I wouldn't think anytime soon. Everyone seems to be happy with the way things are.

 

[ncligs]

Originally posted by KANSAS
i was stunned, on a recent thread and about had a massive heart attack

 

[KANSAS]

PAM OKW

I thought you were trying to tell me, that your home resort window, could be 11 months and the the booking window, for your non home resorts, could be reduced to 1 month


are you trying to me, just the opposite. The home resort window could be 11 months and the non home resort window, could be increased to 10 months

or do I still have it wrong??


every dvc expert tells you the same thing, purchase at the resort, where you think, you will stay the majority of the time.

 

[KANSAS]

dean

in an absolulte extreme scenario, are you telling me that someone that owns at VERO BEACH, could not have access to the other 6 DVC RESORTS AT ALL??

 

[DVCTX]

The association rules also allow the number of points required to make a reservation to be changed. This means that in the future the low season may not be as big a bargain as it is now as far as number of points required. Or weekends may become less ( or more) expensive.

The only restriction is that the total number of points for the year cannot be changed. Therefore if they increase the number of points required to reserve a studio in "Value" season they have to reduce the number of points required in one of the other seasons.

In reality, I have been a member since 95 and DVC has changed the charts very little since I became a member.

Larry

 

[KANSAS]

larry

if I am thinking about buying 225 OKW POINTS, to get a grand villa
sunday-thursday night, in May every 4 of 5 years

are you trying to warn me that the at could not work out?
if points are increased for May or sunday-Thursday goes higher and friday and saturday, lower point requirement

 

[joepoe]

The DVC contracts are constructed to give DVC the most possible flexibility in how they administer the program.

If they fiddled too much, no one would want to buy, so they make sure they keep the program attractive.

As owners, we own a piece of the rock at our home resort until 2042. DVC must maintain our homes, using our points until 2042. If they mess with the owners, attempted resales would increase, DVC would be burdened with trying to keep the price up, downward pressure on price would make it less lucrative for them to sell new points. ERGO, they aren't going to kill the golden goose.

 

[ArRzrbk]

This is all scaring me a lot. I am buying into DVC for a multitude of reasons (use of home resort, ability to stay at non-home DVC resorts, use of resorts outside Disney, abilty to bank and borrow points for big trips, etc.). I have chosen our home resort and the number of points with all this in mind, and it could all change.

If I was buying into my home resort only to stay there year after year for 39 more years, I wouldn't do this. Period. We have our member number and a reservation for Labor Day, but I am planning on reading all the fine print when our contract arrives next week. I feel like once we see it, we may back out.

How can Disney put in some much fine print that the program they are selling you today could hardly resemble at all the program in few years...if they so choose to change it. A little fine print is ok, and I knew about some of it, but what you all are talking about changes this membership dramatically.

ArRzrbk a.k.a. Char

 

[Disney Doll]

ncligs, you are my "smiley idol"!!!!!!!!!!!! How Do you do that????????

I think what they mean is that you will have an 11 month window to book at your home resort, and a 10 month window to book at a non-home resort. Basically, it's compelling people to firm up their vacation plans a little more quickly. Instead of a DVCer having those four mothns between the current 11 and 7 month window to decide what they wanted at their home resort, they'd only have one month to decide. My guess is that they've done this to "equalize" everyone's ability to get into some of the smaller DVC resorts, such as BCV. My DH had said right off the bat that once BCV was sold out, that,because of its location, if it wasn't your home resort, you'd probably have a tough time getting in there based on the size of it, if you had to wait till the 7 month window. What they're banking on is some of the owners of BCV will not be able to plan a vacation 10 or 11 months out, thus guaranteeing that DVCers with other home resorts will fill the place up at 10 months.

Actually, ArZrbk, if they do change this, it will improve your ability to get into a resort different from your home resort, as you'd only be 1 month behind the "home resort" people in your ability to book, rather than 4 months behind.

 

[KANSAS]

arzbrk

i am not a dvc expert, there are many on this discussion board, that are, and they will help you in many ways.

I was just told something, over 3 years ago, that has proven to be true, over and over again.

make sure, that you purchase the DVC REsort, that you would stay at the most, over the lifetime and purchase enough points for the season, that you use most often

the only danger to the number of points, it is small possibility that season points could change, but more important. I am a sunday-Thursday person, so if they even out the weekday and weekend points charrt. I will be in trouble

 

[ArRzrbk]

That is true, and I would like that a lot. So, from my perspective, I don't mind a change to an 11 month / 10 month senario.

But if they ever took away the ability to stay anywhere else but your home resort, I would be devistated. Is there an out clause, if they change the program that dramatically?

ArRzrbk a.k.a. Char

 

[KANSAS]

arzbxk

you may want to start a thread with that exact question
maybe
RICHYAMS, WEBMASTER DOC AND DEAN, can help out with that question

I cannot imagine, any scenario, where you could not use your DVC pOINTS, except at your home resort

but, if it impossible, why do they have clause in the dvc fine Print??

 

[KANSAS]

i think i also read, on a anothe thread, if there was a terrorist attack on one DVC Resort, or great natural disaster, the owners of the DVC HOME rESORT, would be totally devastated.
with little recourse

you need to confirm this with the DVC experts and the chances of this are small anyway, right???

 

[JimC]

If I remember correctly, there has been only one "change" to the program since its inception. That came in 1996 (?) when the OKW point charts were adjusted. And that was mainly to raise the point cost for Adventure season (I supect to mitigate the early December demand for villas) and spread that across the other seasons (ie. lowering the point requirements) as provided for in the POS.

DVC needs flexibility so that they can make changes to keep the program operating well. There may be more changes if it is warranted by how we, the members, use the program. I agree with others that acknowledge DVC's rights to alter the program, but are not conerned about DVC doing something that would materially affect the program negatively.

Now this is a guess, but I suspect that as we near 2042, probably around 2035-2040, there may be changes or announcements about changes regarding banking, borrowing and the like to ensure a fair use of points for everybody in the final months of operation. Those members with use years beginning near the end of the calendar year (the worst being December) will get their final allotment of points with very little time to use them. For example, I have an OKW contract with December use year. I will get my 2041 points on 12/1/41 with a full two months to use them. I will keep that contract in a borrowed status so that I will not need to bunch up on trips or worry about the final allotment near the end (that is if I can still make such trips at that age )

 

[TIdoublegaER]

I thought you were trying to tell me, that your home resort window, could be 11 months and the the booking window, for your non home resorts, could be reduced to 1 month

That was how I initially read that as well! Talk about a heart attack! While I think things are fine how they are, I wouldn't be upset if it were changed to 11/10 mo window. We reserve, or try to anyway, right at 11 mos. So it would actually be to our advantage if we wanted to switch reservations.