7/18/2010 Mickey's Baltic Ballyhoo!!

[Caropooh]

This english dish was mentioned by someone while we were onboard the EB Repo, I don't remember who it was. DH asked Celestine what it was. I figured this might come up again in conversation here, so I'm being proactive and telling us all about it now!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubble_and_squeak

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

If there are more surprises yet to come, they'll likely still be in the financial sector (derivatives? credit-default swaps? Insurance?) rather than housing.
Curiously enough, I'm not really all that worried about housing. The drop in values so far has really not been all that unusual (at least not here in California, where housing prices look have looked like a rising sawtooth wave for decades). Long term trends for the country are for a recovery - the U.S. has positive population growth (slightly above ZPG natural + immigration) which means demand will ultimately eat up the excess supply.

I think you nailed it that the real surprise is that the market isn't factoring in the deficit/national debt. It just doesn't make sense for the dollar to be this strong. The real question though is where to go with that? If not the dollar what - Euros? Pounds? Gold?

Yes USA National debt has been foggotton about again, but its there and someone will notice it soon, ( you cant miss it) and the question is as you say, what is 'safe'

The Reason the market's are collapsing right now is because of the hedge funds selling off!

Its funny I blame them for a good portion of this mess. (as well as those stupid derivitives)

The Hedge funds were the main reason for the run up in Oil! What happened the last time we had extreme spikes in the cost of energy 1973 bad recession stagflation 1979-1980 same thing!

Guess what!

Thats my 2 cents!

Having watched economists talking at length for the past month or more, it's hard for me to see that us armchair economists could do much worse than the experts. Most of them can't agree on what's going on anyway.

The way I see it, economics and politics are two different things. I'm carefully avoiding any specifics on political preferences on the election (other than generic poking fun at the lot of them) because I know that's a potentially divisive and emotional topic.

However, the way I see it we're facing a global economic crisis - and one which bears direct impact on us (exchange rates being one clear way). Also, I think there's a sense that the forces that are moving the economy are bigger than the ability of politicians to handle anyway (frankly, despite my own preference in the election, I have absolutely no confidence that either candidate's plan will really work, nor faith that one plan is actually better than the other).

So hearing what Andrew and other UK folk have to say about their perception of the economy is really interesting to me, as is hearing from people with different backgrounds and insights and from other places in the U.S. Who knows, maybe the knowledge will allow us to help each other?

So Andrew, lets not beat around the bush - which one is the worse loooney Party?





Teresa - I do! As well as others - let me know when you decide and where you will be staying at. I am about 10 minutes away. If you need any other info I can help with that!

I do not like to take sides in an election that I will not be voting in, as I am a bystander, and do not like to offend, but lets say this election will be decided, by a lady and not two men, is called the Sarah Palin effect.

and then there is the Bostonians and their 'I go to Hawvard and pawk the caw in the yawd!'


how romantic!

Vewy funny.

[/B]I was wondering the same thing!



Yes but Andrew, she's traveling in cat 10's - so she downgraded -that means she was making provisions. Got your back Julie! Your three cruises cost for his one Cat 3!




You downgraded remember?

I would say yes three cruises in Cat 10 will equal the cost of the Cat 3 on one trip, the actual issue is holiday time off for my Mrs.

But dont take Julies side, like Crash she isnt innocent.

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

This english dish was mentioned by someone while we were onboard the EB Repo, I don't remember who it was. DH asked Celestine what it was. I figured this might come up again in conversation here, so I'm being proactive and telling us all about it now!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubble_and_squeak

That ant English!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

http://www.divinecaroline.com/article/33619/32927-great-british-fry-aka-english

Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

Would it be really wrong of me to post 45 fluff posts to get the next ?

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[eeyorelvr10]

My wife just called from the other room and said "You are awfully Fluffy tonight!" Of course she should have posted it.

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Congrats

look above dear!

Yeah!!!! MY FIRST

All the FLUFFING paid off.

Sorry Caro sweetie.

You don't sound very sorry.

Hairy is not his name, it is his description. John Rackham was married to one of the two famous women Pirates, and Lover of the other. One of them killed him as the two women loved each other more than they loved him.

But I don't feel much older than when we met (back in 1979).

OH! I feel so dirty and voyeuristic

 

[eeyorelvr10]

I would say yes three cruises in Cat 10 will equal the cost of the Cat 3 on one trip, the actual issue is holiday time off for my Mrs.

But dont take Julies side, like Crash she isnt innocent.

That's right you did mention your wife's couldn't take off so much.

As for Julie being innocent - I will agree with you but us girls have to present a united front!

This english dish was mentioned by someone while we were onboard the EB Repo, I don't remember who it was. DH asked Celestine what it was. I figured this might come up again in conversation here, so I'm being proactive and telling us all about it now!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubble_and_squeak

That ant English!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And here I thought it got its "Bubbles and Squeak" name from the "end results."

Sorry! Don't most kids find bodily functions hilarious?

 

[4kittymagic]

Welcome!!!

Why Thank You!!

It is truly a pleasure to be here and get together again with all you wonderful Ballyhooer's.... Is that a word? Doubtful.

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

That's right you did mention your wife's couldn't take off so much.
As for Julie being innocent - I will agree with you but us girls have to present a united front!



And here I thought it got its "Bubbles and Squeak" name from the "end results."
Sorry! Don't most kids find bodily functions hilarious?

Julie isn't innocent, for example the rumors about Tom are just a cover story.

Now I am the one posting while 'she' is asleep.

Speaking of most kids find bodily functions funny, I know my son had Jimmy in hysterics on our private tours in the Med in 07, Stephen kept doing 'gas' noises, in the back seat, and Jimmy just couldn't control is laughter, so its for young and 'older' kids.

 

[Disneynutinlondon]

just popping in to say hello and now just going out to PC world with Josh to get a new power cable for this laptop so I can post here

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

just popping in to say hello and now just going out to PC world with Josh to get a new power cable for this laptop so I can post here

Does that mean you will be able to post a bit more on this thread???

 

[bellelinus]

Julie isn't innocent, for example the rumors about Tom are just a cover story.

Now I am the one posting while 'she' is asleep.

You seem to be a bit obsessed with Tom, Andrew . . . hmmm, which potential explanation is the true one . . .

I slept well, Andrew -- thank you for being concerned . . .

 

[RJAYL]

HHHMMMM.......I must not be degenerate enough because this TOTALLY slipped over my head!

Sign me off as Dazed, Confused and not degenerate enough.......

Ow well no one is perfect!

Were pulling for you!

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

You seem to be a bit obsessed with Tom, Andrew . . . hmmm, which potential explanation is the true one . . .

I slept well, Andrew -- thank you for being concerned . . .

Self denial!

Hey I saw this photo and thought of Sallie playing Tennis. (The propeller has fallen off her hat on this one)

 

[salliep]

I just may be tempted to do a FE this time. Actually my DH wants me to do one, me of NO TALENT. Harole Ann, HELP!!!

Hi Maryann- I will help you wih the FE!!! I loved making mine out of the kids foam stuff and glue.. We will make that our summer project along with finding ways to rob some banks to pay for this COLD, apparently WET cruise!

I am a first time poster. If you cann't beat them join them. I lost my wife to the Disney threads several years ago. I am thankfull in some ways, I don't have to talk all night. I can watch TV as she is on the boards. I am here to see what this boards are really all about. AND, be more a part of our next vacation.

HI Ken- Welcome- In case you didnt see this in the earlier post- this a picture of me after my wife found this place and I almost starved!!!!! I know what you're going through!!!!

http://www.divinecaroline.com/article/33619/32927-great-british-fry-aka-english

The thought of baked beans on the same plate with my breakfast really is strange- uck!!!!!

 

[salliep]

Self denial!

Hey I saw this photo and thought of Sallie playing Tennis. (The propeller has fallen off her hat on this one)

I should live so long!!!!!!

 

[salliep]

Andrew I hope our currency continues to stay strong at least until the summer because that is the only way i will get to London this summer for Josh's barmitzvah!!! Then it can go back up for you, but then back up for me as we get closer to the cruise... deal??????

 

[Disneynutinlondon]

That was me yesterday. Why can't someone come in here and do the for me?

Ha Ha that EXACTLY why I do ...HIS name is Ray and he's our au pair....also cuts the grass, cleans the house and does the and ironing

 

[salliep]

Ha Ha that EXACTLY why I do ...HIS name is Ray and he's our au pair....also cuts the grass, cleans the house and does the and ironing

show off!!!

 

[Andrew DEREK UK]

I should live so long!!!!!!

Thought you would like that one.

Purr-fect tennis.

Andrew I hope our currency continues to stay strong at least until the summer because that is the only way i will get to London this summer for Josh's barmitzvah!!! Then it can go back up for you, but then back up for me as we get closer to the cruise... deal??????

Well sort of, I need to go to WDW, in August 09, so it better go back up by then.