4H...info please!

jme829

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Please tell me the good, bad and ugly about 4H...I'm thinking of having my kids join. From what I can see it looks like fun. A girl I work with gave me some info on it and I having been looking online to see what I can find.

I ran the idea past dd16, thinking I'd get the "you have seriously got to be kidding me" eyeroll, but she actually said "I can do that"....shocked the heck out of me! Of course, telling her she could do a writing project got her interest (she wants to major in journalism and LOVES to write).

DS thinks its cool he can do a Lego project (he's 8...that's what they DO..lol)

DD10 will go for it too..she will be the easiest to convince!

So tell me your experiences!
 
i was in 4h in tennessee for 8 years.

i didn't have an overall pleasant experience.

many times, the children of the agents are in the program, and yes (at least in my club), they do have an unfair advantage in some of the competitions. (like when i was in the clover bowl competition, we were supposed to have the book for 1 week, and then be tested on the material. the daughter of the woman organizing it had the book for 6 weeks.)

and it is very much a popularity contest in the later stages of competition. the only way to win is to be the "well known one." (i mean on the high school level)

you sacrifice your weekends, your summers, and most of your week nights to be in 4h, and for me, it was a thankless effort. i wasn't the well known one, and i worked my butt off to be good at my project (i was in horticulture for six years, and photography for two.)

in elementary school, i think its a great club. you do little meetings every once in awhile and there are 5 projects to do (poster, dairy poster, photograph, demonstration, speech.) but, at the high school level, no. i don't support the club.

also, my two agents, past what i've already described with their cheating, had an entirely unprofessional relationship, and were never reprimanded for it on a professional level. (they were having a sexual relationship in their office during office hours, and on trips to congress and round up and denver.) the club knew, and all they did was not send them on trips together anymore. which wasn't that big of a deal, when they were having sex in their office anyway.

in elementary school, your project isn't too important at first, but its important to get one and stick with it. you will end up having to make a portfolio, in your project. and you build upon it every year. definitely not a good idea to switch between projects.

in high school there are a ton of trips to take, like congress and round up. congress is in the spring (here), and we went to nashville for a long weekend, and learned about the congressional processes. there is a competition for those in the citizenship/leadership project. if you're not normally in those, you can make a second portfolio and compete.

in the summer, there is roundup. round up is usually hosted by a college and is a week long experience, that centers itself around your project competition, which is an interview. the other days there are things like all star luncheon and meetings with your project and a service project.

i reached the second highest recognition avalible in the country, All-Star. its a big deal to get there. i was never Vol-State (which comes after all star in Tennessee, but all states have a different name for it) but vol state is pretty much just a gift to seniors who have been in the whole time, and have become all stars. All star has to be worked for, and you have to meet certain criteria, but volstate is named by the agents. does that make any sense?

obviously, i'm not a big fan of this club because of my personal experience with the people i encountered. i do know that it would have been almost impossible to just jump in at the high school level, and not have stuck through the elementary not only has everyone already formed the clique, but there is just a lot of information and experiences that she's missed out on that would give her a disadvantage at competition.

but, let your kids try it. my experiences could have been isolated to small town tennessee. they may have a wonderful experience. i just wanted to give a forewarning about what MIGHT happen. good luck!
 
Former WI 4-H alum here (not to brag, but my DGF started the horse project in Racine County 50 years ago and his son, my DF, was the first member :thumbsup2). 4-H is GREAT,but a lot depends on the quality and enthusiasm of the VOLUNTEER leaders. Please, if you or your DH has a skill that can be shared,consider volunteering. Parent involvement and enthusiasm is really important, as well. It has great college scholarship opportunities as well.

Love my 4-H!

Terri
 
I am a 4-H advisor, and DD13 and DD8 are both members. DD3 can't wait for her turn. We take livestock projects (beef cattle).

I can't think of any better organization for kids to be involved in.

My girls have learned so much, and that includes committing to and following through on a long-term project, public speaking, helping and supporting each other, accepting a grade (and, if necessary, constructive criticism) on their work, and so much more.

I do not like all of the other advisors. I do not have to. The girls need to learn that sometimes they will work with people they don't like, but need to know how to deal with it, stick up for themselves if necessary, and see their projects through regardless.

I grew up a "city girl" and married a farmer, so all this was new to me. But when I was out at the county fair the first time, and I was sitting with one of the advisors, she would ask each kid as they walked past how they did. Whatever they said, first place or fifth, she would say, "Good job!" That was my first insight about what it was all about.

Look into it before you commit, and make sure you understand what the expectations are. You get out of it what you put into it, and we love it!
 

I did my 10 years as a 4H-er, including several years in Jr. Leaders. My first year as a Jr. Leader, I was selected as the Outstanding Jr. Leader for our county. The second year, I was sent to Washington, DC for a week. Then Senator and future Vice President Dan Quayle offered me half his sandwich when my stomach growled while we were speaking. (I declined. He had "stuff" on his sandwich-tomatoes, mustard, etc-and I don't like "stuff" on my sandwiches!)

Needless to say, I loved 4-H. I was a farm girl, so I showed pigs, rabbits, chickens, and cattle, as well as cooking, forestry, vegetables, sewing, preserved foods, wildlife, and all those other traditional 4-H projects.

The Jr. Leaders ran a food booth during fair week, and I absolutely loved working in there that week. I went to 4-H camp every year, becoming a counselor as I got older.

My kids did 4-H for two years each, and decided soccer and other interests were more fascinating. Wahh me.

I still have good friends from those 4-H days. I wouldn't trade those experiences.
 












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