40 Post Offices here on the chopping block. Anyone else?

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Anyone else with this news this morning? Just wondering if it is local or across the USA.

They are also talking about erasing Sat. mail.
 
Here's some info I just received from a Direct Mailing company that went to a USPS briefing.......


"CSPI
07/23/2009 12:09 PM
Subject US Postal Service financial crisis

I went to a briefing at AARP conducted by the Alliance of Nonprofit Mailers and
Magazine Publishers of America on the looming financial crisis at the Post
Office:

deficit in 2008: $3B
deficit in 2009: $6B
deficit in 2010: $10B

These losses are due to plummeting mail volumes (down 5% in 2008, 13% in 2009)
and inflexible personnel costs (80% of USPS costs).

USPS has reached the statutory maximum they can borrow, they have announced
they will default on $5.4B owed to the U.S. Treasury in September, and they
will run out of cash to meet payroll in November or December.

The postal service is on the verge of insolvency but since they're a government
agency, the pressures on them to reorganize, save money, and change their
business model are much less than the pressures of bankruptcy on a private
company like, say, GM.

All the experts at the seminar said the Postal Service would not ultimately be
allowed to fail by Congress and the Administration. The question is whether
this crisis will provoke meaningful change and reform, or just result in
stopgap measures, which just "kick the can down the road" a year or two.

There was some hope the Obama Administration would go for full reform; but last
week they decided to kick the can -- and simply support raising the statutory
maximum USPS can borrow from Treasury, plus some other short-term things, none
of which solve the problem, but just put some cash into the USPS so they can
pay their bills for a while.

To make things worse for USPS, because inflation is negative, the COLA rate
increases it is entitled to for next year will probably be close to zero.

The USPS management is clear (and right) about what they have to do -- and what
they shouldn't do. They need to cut their workforce in half, reduce delivery
to 5 days, and close hundreds of post offices, in order to align costs with the
realities of their shrunken mail volumes and revenues. They know they should
not raise postal rates, because it is clear now that this will only further
decrease volumes and revenue.

But what they need to do may not be politically possible because the postal
unions are so strong in Congress and so intransigent -- and they are adamantly
opposed to all the things that need to be done. So USPS management may be
forced to do what they know they shouldn't do: try to raise rates.

The only way to raise rates under the 2006 reform law is to file an emergency
rate case -- but "emergency" is defined in the law so narrowly that there is
doubt whether even today's crisis qualifies -- and it would be litigated long
and hard in any case.

Management's other option is simply to let things proceed along the current
course to the point, sometime in 2010, when postal workers are not paid and
mail delivery falters or stops -- this would force the USPS crisis to the top
of the national agenda and Congress & Administration would be forced to deal
with it.

Bottom line: 2010 is going to be a wild ride with USPS.

When asked what nonprofits should do at this point to plan their budgets for
2010, the presenters generally agreed that it would be prudent to plan for 8-
10% postal increases -- even though nobody really knows what's going to happen.

P.S. All the experts were agreed that within 10 years there will only be 3-day-
a-week postal delivery.

Center for Science in the Public Interest"
 
It is a very atiquated system, people carrying a letter to your door.

Mikeeee
 
It is a very atiquated system, people carrying a letter to your door.

Mikeeee

I agree, there is no need for 6 day mail delivery anymore, or a post office every couple miles. Its a shame that there will be alot of postal employees without jobs but whats the alternative?
 

have you found the lost of the 700 that may be closing?
 
Our local paper had one of ours on the list recently.
 
I can see the efficacy of closing a lot of the small town POs, especially when if you drive 5-10 minutes, there is another small town PO. That redundancy is wasteful.
 
I can see the efficacy of closing a lot of the small town POs, especially when if you drive 5-10 minutes, there is another small town PO. That redundancy is wasteful.

Depends. For many the community post office is not only where you get your mail but a place to socialize as well. I also have fond memories of walking to our local post office to get the mail for my parents. My in-laws live in a very small town & if their post office was closed & the mail moved to the most likely central location they wouldn't get there more than once a week, if that.
 
A quick glance at the list of possible closures suggests that the majority of the locations are in metropolitan areas, not in small towns.

As for ending Saturday deliveries, it wouldn't be a big deal to me, but I understand that others many not want to see that happen.
 
i would hope that some consideration has been given to looking at how certain areas are zoned by the post office and eliminating some of the services certain offices have to provide to home customers by virtue of their zoning. it could also identify offices that truly could be closed down in favor of places that truly require them.

we lived in a city-a small city. there was noone within the entire city limits that could not reach the post office by car in more than 10 minutes. i could'nt figure out for the life of me why then i was designated a "rural" mail customer. when i moved in the post office sent me a flyer listing all the services i could receive at my home because of my rural designation (basicly any service i would normaly have to go to a post office for, the post office had to provide for me at my home through a carrier-i just had to call and request or put a note in my mailbox so the carrier could stop their route and come to my door). i called the post office and asked why in the world i was rural-they told me it was because decades and decades ago the area i lived in had'nt been developed from farming and there was'nt a post office for 50 miles around. i said 'but there's one 4 miles from me now, and 2 in one direction 10 miles away, and 2 more in another direction 8 miles away'. the postmaster said "yes but that happened after your area was zoned and we almost neve go back and re-zone":confused3:confused3

i truly live ruraly now-25 minutes to the closest post office in ANY direction and it's a very small one with more limited days/hours than the ones in the closest "big" cities. i can appreciate having the rural services if i need to mail a package, but it was a pure waste of time, manpower and money in my previous situation. i hope they look at zoning-eliminate waste there, keep the small post offices that serve hundreds and hundreds of miles of land-and eliminate the ones that have another post office within several blocks of each other.
 
I would be sad to see saturday delivery go. with mail already not being delivered on Sunday, 2 days in a row of no delievery would put a big dent in things getting delivered in a timely manner, at least to me. Maybe it's just because I don't want to have to wait ANOTHER day to get something instead of just having to deal with nothing on Sunday...
 
The problem I see with not being open on Saturdays is that if you get a package and need to go to the post office to pick it up, what do you do if you work M-F? Some post offices close at 4; people who work normal office hours can only make it on Saturdays.
 
The problem I see with not being open on Saturdays is that if you get a package and need to go to the post office to pick it up, what do you do if you work M-F? Some post offices close at 4; people who work normal office hours can only make it on Saturdays.

Do people really go to the PO to pick up their packages? Isn't the point of the mail to deliver your packages :confused3
 
Do people really go to the PO to pick up their packages? Isn't the point of the mail to deliver your packages :confused3

If you need to sign for it or you have a carrier that leaves an 'oops I missed you' postcard than yes, you do. Growing up we didn't have door-to-door delivery, everyone in town had to go to the post office. I love having my mail come to my house, but if it came down to it I'd rather drive to our post office and lose door-to-door delivery than lose the post office altogether. I understand that's not a viable option for many elderly and others who don't have access to reliable transportation though.
 
I feel so bad for my BIL. After years and years of being a mailman, he finally got a good route (prior to this, he had delivered in a VERY bad part of Philly). I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that his office will stay around.
 
Do people really go to the PO to pick up their packages? Isn't the point of the mail to deliver your packages :confused3

Yes. They leave you a slip in your mailbox and then you have to take that to the PO to get the package. :headache:
 
Do people really go to the PO to pick up their packages? Isn't the point of the mail to deliver your packages :confused3

If someone sends you certified mail & you aren't there to sign for it, they tote it back to the PO and you need to go pick it up & sign for it. It's a pain.
 







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