4 and 5 day passes now must show ID and use separate entrance

Anyone know where I can get a valid photo ID for a 10 year old? :rolleyes2

Do you think Disney would accept one of the Autopia Driver's license with a photo?

My grand kids had school ID cards with their photo. You might check and see if this is available from your school system.

If not "WHY" not make your own photo ID for the kids? I think they'd have fun creating an ID card.

Geemo
 
I don't think everyone needs to freak out about their child not having a photo ID. Nowhere has Disney said these are necessary.

minniecarousel said:
With Costco selling 4-day PHs, wouldn't there be more, rather than less of those tickets?
Not necessarily. Just because Costco sells it doesn't mean an overwhelming number of people are buying it.

- Dreams
 

Anyone know where I can get a valid photo ID for a 10 year old? :rolleyes2
The photographer for my kids' schools (Lifetouch) always includes a "SmileSafe Kids" ID card free with their school pictures. You could use one from this year or last year. It's not super-official, but it's very close to a school-issued ID.

At the bottom is says,"We provide SmileSafe Kids cards at no cost to help you respond quickly if your child is missing." (Also on the card is a code with an image link so that you can provide an image to authorities in case of emergency.)
 
Ugh, I'm really starting to not look forward to our trip. I am stressed about the crowds (I thought first week of November would be safe) and now this? I TOTALLY understand cracking down on fraud, but this just seems so 1960's way to go about it. It's going to take FOREVER to get through the turnstiles this way.
 
Anyone who thinks this will keep Disney from raising prices, or will help extend ticket offerings is just kidding themselves. I just don't see any way this isn't going to be a giant cluster, at least at first, and that's just a terrible way to treat your customers. Disney is basically saying: We assume you're all liars and cheats, until you prove otherwise.

Look, I'm not condoning fraud or even simple mis-use. I also don't condone shoplifting at the local pharmacy ... But that doesn't mean I'm OK with lining up to be frisked before I can exit. Conversely, I will walk through those ubiquitous electronic merchandise sensors, or submit to being videotaped throughout my shopping experience, because, those are unobtrusive and non-hindering ways for the store to protect its interests (though shoplifting, as a whole, hasn't significantly decreased, even with such things in wide usage).

The point is cameras and electronic fencing aren't a hassle for honest customers. Unlike being herded into separate, and limited, lines at one of the busiest places in the world simply for the "crime" of giving them MORE money.

Plus, the rules need to be the same for ALL guests, not just penalizing certain ticket holders AND whatever solution they come up needs to be seamless and relatively unobtrusive (like those sensor gates at store exits). Crooks will always find the loophole and most of these so-called "security measures," end up penalizing no one other than legit users.

Frankly, as soon as you start looking at your customers as the enemy, you gotta think your overall company strategy is a bit skewed.

EDITED TO ADD: This was my experience during our October 5-12 trip with six-day hoppers ... We were asked to put our names on the tickets when we first exchanged our vouchers for them at turnstiles (and given a pen to do so), and then no one ever asked for our names or IDs or anything ever again. I'd say people only checked for hand stamps at reentry, maybe, 75% of the time. (And, if they weren't there, the assumption was you'd washed your hands or gone swimming.) We also witnessed, multiple times, people enter extra magic hours without hotel room keys (we were only asked to show ours one day out of five, though I did usually had them in my hand, so its possible someone "saw" them without asking) and one grown man who entered using his pre-teen DAUGHTER'S annual pass. How do we know? He came back in front of us to correct his mistake ("Oh, you scanned the wrong ticket, she's not with me.") and the person at the turnstiles had to call a supervisor while we all waited. What I'm saying is, from what we saw, Disney is not employing a crack staff of overly observant people. Maybe deal with some of THOSE things, before you worry about herding paid ticket holders into limited lines.

Oh and, why, WHY, don't they have a "no bags" line at the Disneyland bag check areas (this drove my husband NUTS), like they do at DisneyWorld? So annoying to carry no bags, but have to wait just as long, only to be waved through when you get to the front. It helps no one and clogs up the lines unnecessarily both for those with, and without, bags.
 
On the ID question - when they first removed the photos from the APs we had some issues when our sons, then ages 10 and 11, tried to purchase things and use their AP discounts. CMs kept asking them for ID. I know I complained about the issue verbally and in writing, and I am sure other parents did too. When we returned to the parks a few months later, the CMs no longer asked my younger boy for ID, just asked him to state his name each time he handed over his pass when making a purchase. They mostly didn't bother my older boy either anymore although several CMs told me that we should start getting in the habit of bringing "the teenager's" school ID. My son was 12 at the time and in 6th grade, and our elementary school doesn't issue IDs. Now that he's 13 and in junior high, we will just have him carry his school ID with him in case. So from this long-winded explanation, I would say that I wouldn't expect Disney to check kids for ID, but if they're going to do so at all it's the teenagers they might ask for and you can use school IDs for that.

If "just stating your name" is good enough for TSA at the airport (under 16), I would think Disney should agree. How many preteen children carrying multi day parkhoppers enter the parks without an adult in attendance anyway?
 
OK, I'll put in my 2 cents here. I am worried that people are getting very upset but they might not need to.

1) there has been a huge backlash from guests about DLR no longer selling 6+ day parkhoppers. I absolutely see this as a test to see how they can handle cracking down on the sales of illegal tickets so that they can once again sell the longer tickets. In order to do that, they need to evaluate a plan to verify that the person using the ticket is actually the one that bought it.

2) they have a sign that says proceed to x and y gates. That is just a starting point. I cannot believe that this is set in stone. If the lines for these two gates get to be much longer than the other open gates then they will open up a gate next to it to handle the overflow until the lines get more in sync with the other open gates. There is no way they would want to have these two gates get horribly long while other people are walking right in (they generally try to avoid getting that many guests angry at them if they can help it) :rotfl2:

3) DLR knows what percentage of people will be using the 4 and 5 day passes and have assigned two gates to handle those people. If in reality it takes long than they anticipated to process those people, they will open more gates on a regular basis.

That is my theory anyway ;)
 
If "just stating your name" is good enough for TSA at the airport (under 16), I would think Disney should agree. How many preteen children carrying multi day parkhoppers enter the parks without an adult in attendance anyway?

I agree with you. I don't feel they should be asking children for IDs, especially when the parent is right there with a pass and ID for his or herself as DH and I often were. I just wanted to share what my experiences have been at Disney regarding kids and IDs. I doubt they're pushing too hard right now to look at kid IDs, but the last time there was a change in policy there definitely was a lot of confusion and some over-agressiveness on the parts of CMs checking IDs.
 
I think this is a good idea. It will not fix everything, but at least it’s an effort.

I know the OP said the name would be entered in a computer, which I highly doubt. They will just check to see if the name on the ID matches the name on the ticket. It will take slightly longer to write the name on the ticket, but after that it won’t take longer than usual if people have their IDs ready. It’s just like going through security. If you have your bag already opened it’s really fast.

I know 2 turnstiles seem low, but Disney sees the numbers, we don’t. I’m sure Disney looked at the percentage of 4 and 5 day hoppers to the other tickets and felt 2 was enough. If that’s not the case, they can easily change it. Everyone is complaining about the line possible being longer, but it can also be a lot shorter. If there are 100 people in line to get in and you’re the only one with a 4/5 day hopper, you don’t have to wait at all.

FYI, Disney is not going to require your 10 year old to show ID.
 
We were just there and were asked to write our names on our tix when the turnstile issued them. We didn't show ID. It didn't delay anyone more than a few seconds. I would think this act alone would cut down on a lot of the marketability of our tix. Who would pay to 'rent' tix with other peoples' names on them? I wouldn't.

I am glad they're doing something about this ticket renting. It makes the prices higher for the rest of us.

I think on our 3rd and maybe 4th day I was asked to show ID. The kids weren't. The rest of the party adults weren't. Easy and quick.

So I can't imagine those two turnstiles will be slower. And like has been said, I'm sure Disney knows exactly what percent of guests have these tickets and just how many turnstiles are needed for them, and will quickly adjust if needed.
 
A few more thoughts..

Although I'm sure Disney has statistics on how many 4 and 5 day tickets they sell ,I wonder if the seperate line thing is to help them determine how many of those tickets sold are actually being used for the 4 or 5 days by the original purchaser.

I assume the ticket sharing thing must be very common for them to take this step. On our last trip, we were at the pool at the GCH and two ladies on the lounge chairs next to me, were discussing their plan to have their husbands share tickets. They didn't see the problem at all and weren't trying to hide the their plans, their husbands were there for some meetings or something, and wouldn't be able to go with their families on all days. I was shocked that very wealthy looking guests staying at the most expensive DLR property would do this.


I think others on here are right, that the two line thing may be a first step, with other changes in the near future.
 
I was just there for the last 4 days, and I was always there for park opening. I did not notice the signs at park opening telling you which gate to proceed to if you had a 4-5 day park hopper tickets. But I did notice the signs later in the day.

Also we were asked at the turnstile to write our names on our tickets. And I noticed that the asking for id was random. They did not do it to everyone. And I was told that children would not have to produce id.

I am wondering if they are to check id for tickets every so many people. Like every 10th person.
 
I hope they don't require photo ID for the kids.

When we picked up our passes from the maingate we all showed our Passports but after that, if they required ID we just used our drivers licenses. We said we didn't have ID with us for DD8 and it wasn't a problem. I'm simply not comfortable carrying around her passport with us everyday in the Park.
 
OK, I'll put in my 2 cents here. I am worried that people are getting very upset but they might not need to.

1) there has been a huge backlash from guests about DLR no longer selling 6+ day parkhoppers. I absolutely see this as a test to see how they can handle cracking down on the sales of illegal tickets so that they can once again sell the longer tickets. In order to do that, they need to evaluate a plan to verify that the person using the ticket is actually the one that bought it.

2) they have a sign that says proceed to x and y gates. That is just a starting point. I cannot believe that this is set in stone. If the lines for these two gates get to be much longer than the other open gates then they will open up a gate next to it to handle the overflow until the lines get more in sync with the other open gates. There is no way they would want to have these two gates get horribly long while other people are walking right in (they generally try to avoid getting that many guests angry at them if they can help it) :rotfl2:

3) DLR knows what percentage of people will be using the 4 and 5 day passes and have assigned two gates to handle those people. If in reality it takes long than they anticipated to process those people, they will open more gates on a regular basis.

That is my theory anyway ;)

But, but, but what about my commando plans?!?

But, wait, you mean I might have to wait in a LINE at Disney!?!

But, I want to take this personally!!!

By the way, I totally agree with you, I was there this week and the special lines were no longer than the regular lines.
 
I don't get it. Why the ID? We had 5 day park hoppers and our names were certainly not on our tickets sooooo...what is the point of this?

We went in August with 11 people, only 2 of us had AP's, all other tickets either had names printed on them by the computer or they were hand written.

I expect that will be part of the process, having the guest write his/her name on the ticket at first use at the turnstile and then showing ID for every entrance thereafter. I think Disney has finally gotten serious about putting an end to the ticket sharing business.

:thumbsup2

When we were the the week on Oct 7-12, one of the castmembers asked for ID on a Wednesday, that was it. When we picked our 5day park hoppers at the ticket booth, the cast member wrote our names on our tickets, we did not sign them.
I sure hope they have more turnstiles too. Also, when were there someone was trying to get in the parks with another person annual pass. :confused3 Of course, she was not let in the parks.

Good, and I hope the AP holder had her AP revoked as well.

Agree! :thumbsup2 I am almost wishing we weren't going this year. I get cracking down on ticket fraud. I don't get inconviencing honest, paying guests.

We are coming from the east coast, just to go to DL. Arriving on Sunday, leaving late Friday. Staying in a premium view room at DL Hotel. Had planned to go into the parks all 6 days. Can't buy a 6 day ticket now. So instead of going into the park on our arrival day, we'll browse Downtown Disney & the hotel decorations. Very dissapointed about that. We're staying on site for crying out loud. Why can't they make a Keys To The Kingdom type ticket, tied to our hotel length of stay??! WDW has dining credits that expire on your checkout day. Why can't DL make park tickets the same way?

Yeah, I know I could buy a 1 day ticket at full price, but I am not going to do that. I'm already spending $3000 plus just for the room & tickets, plus all our food & about $450 for 2 tours. That's enough money for a 5 night stay.

But how does Disney determine if someone is an honest paying guest? Not trying to imply you aren't. :) Just being the DA for a minute. :) I do agree that they should make your tickets available on your room key, that would really help for those staying on site, unfortunately it doesn't help if you're staying off site. I hope you have great time. On your arrival (non-park) day maybe you could go to the GardenWalk or see a movie there or in DTD. :)

Anyone know where I can get a valid photo ID for a 10 year old? :rolleyes2

They didn't ask for ID for the little kids in our group, I think you're probably fine. :)

I can see a special line perhaps for just the first time you use it, so you can sign it, have your name entered into the computer, and whatever else they need to do. But then in subsequent uses, don't see why they don't set it up so you can show ID's at any line.

I was going to say exactly this. And they can see ID in any line, they don't scan it or anything, they just look at the names.

On the ID question - when they first removed the photos from the APs we had some issues when our sons, then ages 10 and 11, tried to purchase things and use their AP discounts. CMs kept asking them for ID. I know I complained about the issue verbally and in writing, and I am sure other parents did too. When we returned to the parks a few months later, the CMs no longer asked my younger boy for ID, just asked him to state his name each time he handed over his pass when making a purchase. They mostly didn't bother my older boy either anymore although several CMs told me that we should start getting in the habit of bringing "the teenager's" school ID. My son was 12 at the time and in 6th grade, and our elementary school doesn't issue IDs. Now that he's 13 and in junior high, we will just have him carry his school ID with him in case. So from this long-winded explanation, I would say that I wouldn't expect Disney to check kids for ID, but if they're going to do so at all it's the teenagers they might ask for and you can use school IDs for that.

They've never checked ID for my kids and I won't let them take their school ID with them. If the school ID is lost I have to pay $10-20 to replace them! That's not gonna happen. lol DD16 doesn't have her license yet so she doesn't have another type of ID either.

Anyone who thinks this will keep Disney from raising prices, or will help extend ticket offerings is just kidding themselves. I just don't see any way this isn't going to be a giant cluster, at least at first, and that's just a terrible way to treat your customers. Disney is basically saying: We assume you're all liars and cheats, until you prove otherwise.

Look, I'm not condoning fraud or even simple mis-use. I also don't condone shoplifting at the local pharmacy ... But that doesn't mean I'm OK with lining up to be frisked before I can exit. Conversely, I will walk through those ubiquitous electronic merchandise sensors, or submit to being videotaped throughout my shopping experience, because, those are unobtrusive and non-hindering ways for the store to protect its interests (though shoplifting, as a whole, hasn't significantly decreased, even with such things in wide usage).

The point is cameras and electronic fencing aren't a hassle for honest customers. Unlike being herded into separate, and limited, lines at one of the busiest places in the world simply for the "crime" of giving them MORE money.

Plus, the rules need to be the same for ALL guests, not just penalizing certain ticket holders AND whatever solution they come up needs to be seamless and relatively unobtrusive (like those sensor gates at store exits). Crooks will always find the loophole and most of these so-called "security measures," end up penalizing no one other than legit users.

Frankly, as soon as you start looking at your customers as the enemy, you gotta think your overall company strategy is a bit skewed.

EDITED TO ADD: This was my experience during our October 5-12 trip with six-day hoppers ... We were asked to put our names on the tickets when we first exchanged our vouchers for them at turnstiles (and given a pen to do so), and then no one ever asked for our names or IDs or anything ever again. I'd say people only checked for hand stamps at reentry, maybe, 75% of the time. (And, if they weren't there, the assumption was you'd washed your hands or gone swimming.) We also witnessed, multiple times, people enter extra magic hours without hotel room keys (we were only asked to show ours one day out of five, though I did usually had them in my hand, so its possible someone "saw" them without asking) and one grown man who entered using his pre-teen DAUGHTER'S annual pass. How do we know? He came back in front of us to correct his mistake ("Oh, you scanned the wrong ticket, she's not with me.") and the person at the turnstiles had to call a supervisor while we all waited. What I'm saying is, from what we saw, Disney is not employing a crack staff of overly observant people. Maybe deal with some of THOSE things, before you worry about herding paid ticket holders into limited lines.

Oh and, why, WHY, don't they have a "no bags" line at the Disneyland bag check areas (this drove my husband NUTS), like they do at DisneyWorld? So annoying to carry no bags, but have to wait just as long, only to be waved through when you get to the front. It helps no one and clogs up the lines unnecessarily both for those with, and without, bags.

I agree with the no bags line, but in our case it wouldn't help because someone in our group always has a bag. Even if DBF doesn't I do so he still has to wait for me. LOL Very rarely do I ever go in without a bag. :)

IME they didn't ask for ID for the kids but the adults were spot checked occasionally. I also got asked why my DD12 didn't have an AP but DD16 and I did. lol
 
OK, I'll put in my 2 cents here. I am worried that people are getting very upset but they might not need to.

1) there has been a huge backlash from guests about DLR no longer selling 6+ day parkhoppers. I absolutely see this as a test to see how they can handle cracking down on the sales of illegal tickets so that they can once again sell the longer tickets. In order to do that, they need to evaluate a plan to verify that the person using the ticket is actually the one that bought it.

2) they have a sign that says proceed to x and y gates. That is just a starting point. I cannot believe that this is set in stone. If the lines for these two gates get to be much longer than the other open gates then they will open up a gate next to it to handle the overflow until the lines get more in sync with the other open gates. There is no way they would want to have these two gates get horribly long while other people are walking right in (they generally try to avoid getting that many guests angry at them if they can help it) :rotfl2:

3) DLR knows what percentage of people will be using the 4 and 5 day passes and have assigned two gates to handle those people. If in reality it takes long than they anticipated to process those people, they will open more gates on a regular basis.

That is my theory anyway ;)

Great comment, i too agree that people are freaking out for no reason! And if this is going to "ruin" your vacation then feel free to send your tickets my way :)
 





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