230 mile round trip that I don't want to do again!

AndRu

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Today I had to get up at 4am, left the house at 5am and drove to Wales for a 9am appointment on a "Speed Awareness Course". It was either this or have 3 points on my license and have to cough up extra on my insurance for the next 5 years. The course lasted three hours and had 15 people on it, all bar 2 of which were from the local area. I was annoyed that I'd had to drive all the way from Derbyshire yet there were people there from Essex, the North East and even Scotland - so I wasn't the worse off.

The course lasted 3 hours and was all about the dangers of speed, how driving at 30mph was the equivalent of 44 feet per second, stopping distances and generally how utterly bad and incompetant we were at driving. Everyone in the room had been caught not by fixed camera but by North Wales Police "Arrive Alive Vans" which get parked at (and I quote) 'accident blackspots' or where 'the public asks them to be placed'. In reality this means anywhere they can maximise their chances of catching people, i.e. on roads where they've lowered the speed limit without warning (it's happened in Bangor), as you exit the slow moving Menai Bridge and speed up on the open road or, as with happened with us, hiding around a bend after a long clear stretch of road.

We were told the course wasn't a debating chamber; that we weren't allowed to air our grievences about the system and we certainly couldn't discuss relevant issues such as why the Police aren't concentrating on catching criminals instead of persecuting drivers. Anyway, I digress. We did get caught for doing 35 in a 30 (around the same as most in the room) and to go on the course to avoid the points we had to admit our guilt. If only it was this easy to prosecute anti-social behaviour / robbery or violent crime eh :thumbsup2

We did learn some good things about what we can do to read the road better and how to recognise some of the things that might make you creep over the speed limit. So it wasn't all doom & gloom. I think most of us took three things away from the course:

1. Slow down.
2. Take care.
3. Don't go on holiday to North Wales again where the Traffic Taleban are out to make as much as possible from easily targetable drivers. ;)

OK, the last point may be flippant but seeing as all bar 2 of us were on holiday, attending the course costs £60 each, there are 4 courses in the building a day and there are 15 people a course. That's a cool £3,600 a day "easy money" for the Police / Council / Government to rake in - and that's just from those lucky enough (and I class myself "lucky" that I don't have to have the 3 points) let alone all those that automatically got the fine & points. So even though Wales is a beautiful country and we've had some nice holidays there, we won't be going back as it's not worth the risk of being zapped again.

Finally, it really made me think about the journey home. I think I was paying more attention to the road and to my speed, however it did make me look at my speedometer more often. Whether that's a good / bad thing I don't know. I just hope that I don't break the speed limit and I certainly don't want to be the cause of an accident.
 
i did that course a couple of weeks ago :sad2: fortunatly i was able to go to leicester,there were people there from scotland as well.
i was also surprised to see 2 elderly ladies :teeth:
 
I suppose I'd rather go on the course than get 3 points on my licence.
Better still I'm going to pay more attention to my speed :thumbsup2
 
Cyrano said:
I suppose I'd rather go on the course than get 3 points on my licence.
Better still I'm going to pay more attention to my speed :thumbsup2

::yes::
 

AndRu said:
..why the Police aren't concentrating on catching criminals instead of persecuting drivers.


We did get caught for doing 35 in a 30......

If only it was this easy to prosecute anti-social behaviour

Sorry to upset you on this one AndRu but I really do have an issue with speeding drivers.

If you were caught speeding, you were breaking the law; if you were breaking the law, you were committing a crime; therefore the police did catch a criminal.

You were doing 35 mph in a 30 mph area. That's 16.6% above the speed limit (the police also "mark" the speed down a few percent to cover themselves, so your real speed was probably higher).

I would actually call driving 16.6% above the speed limit anti-social behaviour.

Yes, I have broken the speed limit myself, which I'm not proud of, but this usually occurs on the motorway when I go to overtake the car that is doing 60 mph (usually a BuMWiper - you know the type, driven by, how should I put it, a rectum ;) ) that you suddenly find you need to do 85-90 to pass before they drop down to 60mph again. :furious:
 
I agree with Dicky Knee, speeding drivers are breaking the law in an anti social way. I'm glad its made you learn your lesson in paying more attention to the speed you are travelling.

Take an advanced motoring course. I was very nervous about being out with my DH he took the course and later became a volunteer instructor, it makes you drive in a much more aware way.
 
When you said you had to go to the course I though you were caught for a serious speeding offence, i.e. doing something like 50 in a 30 zone.

I am glad that despite your harsh views on the police force you did keep your eyes on the speedometer, which is the whole point of you going there. If it works for you, who from what I can gather is a reasonably good driver; no idea what you are like but oh well; it should work for speed kings living it up on the roads. And, as a bonus plus, you got away without a couple of points on your license. :)
 
I have just gotten rid of 3 points on my licence from driving 45 in a 40 zone on a motorway slip road (A 'tester' speed limit to see if it worked) at 5am. It also cost me £60ish which I would gladly have used towards a 'lesson' on good driving behaviour if it let me off the 3 points. Even if it was in Wales ;)

:sunny:

Jodie
 
I live in north wales. and i see the arrive alive vans in various places, yes they are in accident blackspots and where residents have complained continuously about speeding in their particular area. They are there for a reason,slow down do the speed limit for that area, alot of people who come here do complain about it but at the end of the day paying out £60 is better than having killed someone or yourselves.
 





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