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[Barbossa]

Rule #1: Don't do business with family or friends

Rule #2: See rule #1

 

[hentob]

narcissism:

--self-admiration or self-love; a tendency to over-estimate one's abilities and importance

--psychological condition in which a person is preoccupied with themselves, lacks empathy for others

--behavior which involve exclusive self-absorption

 

[hentob]

where do you keep 90 X2 dirty undies. The room will smell great when you move out.

That made me both laugh and throw up in my mouth a little bit

 

[bengalbelle]

Please read this post.

I have no problem paying the 400$ she wants.
I believe it's a little over the top, based off the obvious. But not my decision to make.

Upon hearing the conversation from Kari that she had with her, She's trying to pre-accuse us of using her, because her last room-mate ran up the electric, ate her food, and invited her b/f constantly.
Every person Kari knows, she knows because they work in the same area. Plus we're not ones to have friends over very often. And the last time we did, it was her and the other couple with the baby (pre-baby though).

400$ is what Kari wanted to pay her in the beginning. Yes we need as much money as possible in order for this move to happen into a new apartment. So an extra 100$ would go a long way.
I just didn't like the sound of what Kari told me. I don't like the fact that she took one bad experience with some one, and wants to make us out to be just like the last room-mate.

You have 6 pages of people, one after the other, telling you that you are the one being unreasonable, not the homeowner. You need to suck it up, take her terms and show her some gratitude, or start checking out homeless shelters. You don't have a lot of options here.

 

[doxdogy]

Our nephew lives with us and pays us $400 a month in rent. That just barely covers the cost of the food he eats, the water and electricity he uses. We are by no means making any money off of him. What the friend is asking is not to much in the way of rent. Have you sat done and considered how much the water bill (if she pays one) will go up, how much the electricity will go up? She will by no means be making any money off you two.

 

[hellokitty86]

Geesh, I wish I could find a roommate and have my rent be only $400 a month. Think of all the Disney trips I could be planning!!

 

[kaseyC]

And no, I don't think we could come up with 1,500 in one day like that. Especially when we already have other bills that still need to get paid.
Plus once I start working that means Kari can go back to normal hours like 50hrs a week instead of 70 to make up for my lost income. And yes 50 is her preferred work week. I used to yell at her to not pick up extra shifts or extend so we could be off together. So now, I don't think with a part time job we would over qualify on the 26,800 limit.

Wow! I can't believe your partner is working 70hrs a week while you are sitting around not getting a job because you want to qualify for a subsidized apartment.

 

[SandrA9810]

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[bumbershoot]

The fiancee is happy to rent the room from her workmate, and it's a short-term solution to an immediate problem. It's not nice but the whole situation is not nice (nor is the OP's attitude toward the workmate). The fiancee clearly has to stay in the area because of her job; the OP is a little more flexible.

But it's then doubling their living expenses. And that doesn't actually help out.

 

[luvindisneyworld]

I have been looking. I had two interviews but nothing came of it. Right now I'm not looking for a job because I'm the one here that needs to pack. And yes we have stuff to pack. I'm not going to turn down if some one calls me for an interview tomorrow. And I really hate moving, this is our third move. It's big and comfortable enough for everything. I hate the neighbors, and I hate the new mangment company, but that's not much to care about.
We've done 1 move before from South Florida to Orlando, when we were both working and had about 4 days to pack everything in a uhaul there, drive here and sign a new lease, then move everything out of the uhual.
Most of the stuff we have now came from her parent's house when they sold it. They brought it up here to this apartment for us, helped us move out of the orlando one, and we got one month free rent on this place. So we had 30 days to move between places.

We're trying to get into the income restricted place because of the location, and because we qualify for it.

You qualify for it because you want get out and actively look for a job so you can get in somewhere like that. That in my opinion is just wrong. Because you say once you get in then you will find a job. There could be someone out there that truly needs the place you are wanting to move into that would not have anyone to help them with their rent. I really just dont get people trying to cheat the system.

Oh BTW you can pack and move and still have a job I have done that 4 times in the past 16 months. It is not that hard.

 

[Liberty Belle]

I'm willing to pay 400$. Like I said 300$ the first week and 50$ the two following weeks.

But she's throwing in all these other things, like if you run the electric up, then you'll owe me more. We're not big electric users, nor water users. And trust me, we have enough clothes to last 2-3 months without doing laudry. That's including enough socks and underwear. And Kari can go to costuming to get a fresh costume every week, if it comes down to not using her W/D.

I'm making the point that our utilities are only 80$ a month on a three bedroom. I couldn't imagine her utilities costing her that much more. Or us affecting it that much more. And remember too, there's like 20$ of standard fees for having utilities on, whether you use any or not.
We've converted all of the light bulbs to CFL (I always keep the old bulbs so I can switch out before we move), and we keep the water heater temp at a lower temp to what we normally shower in. No need to having it much hotter than that. Ohh and we have a digital thermostat, and it's been cool enough that the AC hasn't even turned on in the past two months. I do try my best to conserve energy. And it's not something I'm going to stop just because I'm living with some one else.

If she's not willing to conserve energy, why should I pay for her to waste it? I know I'm not perfect at it, but I do try.

I did consider her my friend until the recent events of her and Kari happened at work. And that's when I've sorta stepped back out of it. I give Kari advice on how she should handle the situation, but I'm not going to get myself involved.
I also don't think there's a "work person" and a "at home person", she's still the same person at home and at work, there's no need for her to treat Kari any differently otherwise.

Of course, you'd have to pay any electric above what she usually pays. I don't get your thinking. It's her home, her terms. If you don't agree with it, try to find somewhere else.

And, sorry, but I can't get past this...you each have 60 - 90 pairs of underwear?!

 

[Liberty Belle]

Right now, we qualify. I don't have a job. And who knows if I ever could find a job in todays market. Or how soon it would be. I've looked for three months now, and haven't found anything. I don't know if I will.
And no they do not monitor your income after you move in. Most the people that live there only have one person on the lease, and then that person rents rooms to other friends. They also go by your last 2-3 pay stubs. So you work a lousy few weeks, 35hrs, bring in your app, then they average that for a year.
Right now with our income we make 300$ less than what our bills add up. even moving into this place is going to cut back 200$. I'm hoping that with the location it'll save on gas as well.
We're trying to live within our current means. We got this apartment because we were going to have a third person living with us. So it would give us extra space, without increasing the rent significantly over the other place. But after the person ditched us 3 days before rent was due. We've managed to make ends meet (the first couple of months was by dumb luck). After that it was manageable for us. Last year we didn't want the hassle of moving again, and the neighbors were nice enough. But then they moved out, I lost my job, and it's become a burden on Kari.

And the areas that we can afford to live in are high crime areas, like our first place. We had things stolen off our porch... a potted rose... maintance people robbing our house, and chilling on our bed watching tv when we arrived home at 11pm. Think the managment did anything about that?

We don't want to have to deal with the safety of our lives and belonging to live some place. If all else fails we leave florida.

BTW if over 80% of tenants that rent from the community work for disney, but yet, one persons income at disney is too much by themselves, you know things are going on that shouldn't. They know it too.

It sounds like all else may have failed.

 

[Magic Mom]

And, sorry, but I can't get past this...you each have 60 - 90 pairs of underwear?!

She said she had 4 nightstands with 60 pairs in each nightstand......Maybe my math is off, but 240+ pairs of underwear seems like 1 or 2 pairs too many.

 

[kaytieeldr]

No she doesn't have a yard, so there's no priviladges of even allowing the dog to have a bit of running space.
And I could deal with living out of just the room. Most food can be made in the microwave, and we have a mini fridge.

So you're planning to use kitchen appliances (which use electricty) in a bedroom that's being rented to you at a VERY good price? And keeping a dog in that room?

But if we'll be the same off by staying in a motel and boarding the dog for a month, I'd rather do that than

You should "rather do that" than accept the offer of a short-term rental from a person you know under ANY conditions. Period.

I'm willing to pay 400$. Like I said 300$ the first week and 50$ the two following weeks.

But those aren't HER conditions, they're yours. She has already generously agreed to take TWENTY PERCENT LESS than her original request - and you want to pay it in installments? Why? Is your boss paying you that way? Seventy-five percent of your pay one week, and 12.5% at each of the next two pay periods?

It's not your friend's fault you can't handle money. Stay in a motel.

I'm making the point that our utilities are only 80$ a month on a three bedroom. I couldn't imagine her utilities costing her that much more.

Oh. They dropped back down from the shocking $140? Two weeks from now it doesn't matter what your utilities cost you now. I know how you can pay NO utilities. Sleep in your car.

If we didn't have the dog, I'd much rather live with them, and offer free baby sitting, and continue to do it for her until they move back home, or I get a job and can't do it.

What in the world ever gave you the idea THAT friend would even want you living there - especially when YOU have the need, but YOU make the demands?

I'm the one seeing red lights flashing all over the place.

Yeah, don't worry. The friend with the house is probably seeing yellow, orange, and red lights AND hearing sirens and the announcement from the Emergency Broadcasting System, that it is the real thing, and to get out NOW!!!

Like if we moved into this other person's place, it doesn't seem like it would bother me as much.

But the other person just had a baby and HASN'T OFFERED YOU A ROOF OVER YOUR HEAD, has she?

And if it was a role reversal, I would only charge as much as the other person could afford.

Cool. I can only afford $25 a month. Tell you what - when you own a house, you can decide who can live there and how much they pay for their share of living expenses.

But I would think the intially 400$ would cover

But you're not GIVING her an initial $400. You're still trying to negotiate what you, the soon-to-be-homeles person want to pay and under what terms.

And I meant that she and kari have the same status in thier roles at work. Both relief coordinators and trainers for three of the four attractions. But more people think highly of Kari than they do of this other person.

But the other person owns a house and is offering you a room under HER - the homeOWNER'S - conditions.

We can't make any more money until we get into this place. It's income restricted and Kari makes like 1,000 less than the minimum right now.

And IF you get in, and Kari gets salary increases, you will be REQUIRED to report the higher income and your rent will go UP.

And it's not just 450$ we need to move in. There's 820$ on top of that for the months rent, plus another 300$ pet fee.

We don't care. And the woman offering you a place to stay due to your emergency situation doesn't care. YOUR income is not HER responsibility.

90 days worth of clothes? try three full closets. We have a nine drawer dresser in this room, full, plus a walk-in closet. 2nd bedroom contains a 6 drawer dresser, full, with a closet that's about 6 ft or so across, also little more than half full. 3rd room, two 3 drawer dressers, full, closet is half full. Don't forget the four nightstand

Sell some clothes. Heck, sell some furniture. Less to move or store, plus more cash to apply to whatever expenses are involved with finding a new apartment and moving.

I also know that most jobs are all part time, and won't pay me as much as I used to get.

But they will pay you more than being unemployed will Get a job. Any job.

used to yell at her to not pick up extra shifts or extend so we could be off together.

How old ARE you? You sound like you're about fifteen. It's time to grow up, face reality, get a job and find your own place to live.

I have no problem paying the 400$ she wants.
I believe it's a little over the top, based off the obvious.

I believe it's MORE than reasonable, and unbelievably generous on the part of the homeowner. And you DO have a problem paying the $400 she wants - you want to pay it in installments? Ha!

So you just need to be under the maximum to move in, but then you can make as much as you want? They don't monitor after you're there? Weird.

They DO monitor you. You are required, per your lease, to report income increases (in fact, you're required to report all your income on the application) as they occur; and even if you 'forget' that, you need to be recertified every year. I know - I live in a place like that. And over the years, my income has increased to the point that I pay the maximum - market-rate - rent.

Geesh, I wish I could find a roommate and have my rent be only $400 a month. Think of all the Disney trips I could be planning!!

Well, if you don't mind sleeping in the living room, moving to Massachusetts, and doing all the housework...have I got a deal for you! It includes everything except long-distance calls.

 

[hellokitty86]

Well, if you don't mind sleeping in the living room, moving to Massachusetts, and doing all the housework...have I got a deal for you! It includes everything except long-distance calls.

You had me sold until I read the part about the house work.....

 

[Carys]

Looks like you've had a fair bit of tough love advice on this thread. My short take on it- yes it is possible to rent a room off a friend, I did it for 2.5 years and we're still good friends, but we did it on normal market terms so there were no hard feelings on either side. It's not you who's doing her the favour so I don't see that you have any room for negotiation - take it or leave it on her terms. Hope it all works out for you!

 

[Kath2003]

OP - I needed short term accommodation this time last year. I could afford $600/month including bills. My friend offered me a room for $700 a month (that's A ROOM, for one person, without any animals etc.). I jumped at the chance and worked a couple of extra shifts to get the extra $100/month. Oh and I was studying at college full time and already had three jobs.

She and I are still good friends; I now rent from her parents!

 

[Disneyadore]

I saw that too. Who owns 90 pairs of underwear?? And where do you store 90 pairs of dirty underwear if you aren't doing laundry for 90 days.......

My o my I'm so ashamed of myself an must confess that after a few days my dirty laundry gets smelly.

I just can't imagine how the laundry and house ore room of the OP must smell after ninety days

 

[cruellababy]

This is so bizarre-you can't make this stuff up!

 

[kaseyC]

This is so bizarre-you can't make this stuff up!

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