2027 Points Charts Predictions

[Sandisw]

Not off the top of my head.

Okay. I did a quick look and it seems the only adjustment is for September for longhouse studios.

RV up 2 points per week and PV up 1 points. Same number of weekend days.

No idea how that would compare to max chart. Or if they did indeed take those from elsewhere…which I know some feel they can’t.

 

[808blessing]

So I am extra careful about the funny business at Boardwalk because of a small overlooked discrepancy I saw last year and/or the year before.

What I am questioning this year:
Is it legal to add a point for 30 days, 45 days, 26 days, 23 days (total 124 day window- Sun/Thurs) and subtract a point for windows of 15, 20, 24, 3 days (total 62 day window- mixed)?

https://app.dvcfan.com/point-charts?resortId=1a128f49-2189-457b-89e5-6e18434c1e9b&year=2026

 

[Sandisw]

So I am extra careful about the funny business at Boardwalk because of a small overlooked discrepancy I saw last year and/or the year before.

What I am questioning this year:
Is it legal to add a point for 30 days, 45 days, 26 days, 23 days (total 124 day window- Sun/Thurs) and subtract a point for windows of 15, 20, 24, 3 days (total 62 day window- mixed)?

https://app.dvcfan.com/point-charts?resortId=1a128f49-2189-457b-89e5-6e18434c1e9b&year=2026

It’s hard to tell without knowing exactly what you are referring to.

Since BWV has all lock off two bedrooms, that’s a lot of rooms that you have to look at one that.

And then, I think look at how many studios and 1 bedrooms are dedicated

So. It depends on room totals for the 2 bedrooms vs the dedicated studios to know.

Total points have to average out, taking into consideration weekend days, since charts ar wonky built with minimum Fri and Sat stays, but some years there are more.

 

[Tatebeck]

So I am extra careful about the funny business at Boardwalk because of a small overlooked discrepancy I saw last year and/or the year before.

What I am questioning this year:
Is it legal to add a point for 30 days, 45 days, 26 days, 23 days (total 124 day window- Sun/Thurs) and subtract a point for windows of 15, 20, 24, 3 days (total 62 day window- mixed)?

https://app.dvcfan.com/point-charts?resortId=1a128f49-2189-457b-89e5-6e18434c1e9b&year=2026

You missed a bunch of days there. The June 11th-Aug 31st stretch is 81 days alone, not 20.

Its like a 124 day window where they increased the resort studios by 1 pt on weekdays from 2025-2026 and a 123 day window they decreased them by 1 point. They balanced them fine there

 

[808blessing]

lol did i miss a whole month? I'll go look again. Yes to Studios.

 

[808blessing]

add a point for 30 days, 45 days, 26 days, 23 days= 124 day window- Sun thru Thurs
subtract a point 15, 20->50 correction, 24->54 correction, 3 days (total ->122 day window- mixed)...maybe Iʻm off another day or so...thank you for that @Tatebeck

Isnʻt it more days and points though for Sun thru Thurs, 124 day window than 65 S-Th with a Fri-Sat only (57 day window) because of the weekend days of the week are only 2 compared to the 5?

 

[Sandisw]

add a point for 30 days, 45 days, 26 days, 23 days= 124 day window- Sun thru Thurs
subtract a point 15, 20->50 correction, 24->54 correction, 3 days (total ->122 day window- mixed)...maybe Iʻm off another day or so...thank you for that @Tatebeck

Isnʻt it more days and points though for Sun thru Thurs, 124 day window than 65 S-Th with a Fri-Sat only (57 day window) because of the weekend days of the week are only 2 compared to the 5?

They can shift points between weekdays and weekends. As long as the total seems to even out, taking into account for extra weekend days, then it works.

Remember, there is a base year that they use and it is based on, like I said, charts that have the fewest Fri and Saturday. If 2027 has more, then you might have a slight number of points that are higher.

 

[zavandor]

The POS very clearly says that any increase in points required for a given Vacation Home must be offset by a decrease in another Vacation Home, or a decrease in a different season.

I'm sorry, you're wrong. The POS clearly say that an increase for a given Vacation Home in a season must be offset by a decrease in anotehr season for the same Vacation home.
Only RIV and CFW state it can decrease in another vacation home (maybe also VGF, going by memory), certainly not for the Poly.

If this is what happened, then they could have just sold less overall points and kept the charts the same, but they of course wouldn't want to eat a bunch of points at $200+ per point that they were planning on selling this entire time.

Exactly. Since the resort is not fully declared yet, if they realize, after just one year that the resort went on sale, that they wrongly classified some room views, then the only decent thing would be to sell fewer overall points and just take the loss.

If I were a PVB owner I'd be furious.

 

[Cfabar1]

Very glad I don’t own Polynesian. This does worry me about what they can do. I don’t see how points can be added without a decrease.

 

[JackosinDIS]

I'm sorry, you're wrong. The POS clearly say that an increase for a given Vacation Home in a season must be offset by a decrease in anotehr season for the same Vacation home.
Only RIV and CFW state it can decrease in another vacation home (maybe also VGF, going by memory), certainly not for the Poly

The multi site POS states:
“Any increase or decrease in the Home Resort Vacation Point reservation requirement for a given Use Day or Vacation Home must be offset by a corresponding increase or decrease for another Use Day or Use Days for that Vacation Home or another Vacation Home or Vacation Homes”

I will defer to your expert knowledge on this, but struggle to see how that precludes a decrease in a different room type.

But, as a Poly owner, I am pretty furious about the change and do not think they should be able to do it.

 

[Cyberc1978]

The multi site POS states:
“Any increase or decrease in the Home Resort Vacation Point reservation requirement for a given Use Day or Vacation Home must be offset by a corresponding increase or decrease for another Use Day or Use Days for that Vacation Home or another Vacation Home or Vacation Homes”

I will defer to your expert knowledge on this, but struggle to see how that precludes a decrease in a different room type.

But, as a Poly owner, I am pretty furious about the change and do not think they should be able to do it.

But as others has said, if they changed the view types for a number of rooms wouldnt the result be as we see it?

 

[Cfabar1]

But as others has said, if they changed the view types for a number of rooms wouldnt the result be as we see it?

I’m questioning how they are allowed to do that. Maybe they are?

But it makes me wonder why they wouldn’t play more around with that in general. And by adjusting the room types the are essentially admitting they misled owners with the initial availability and or cost of certain room types.

 

[Add-On-Itis]

But as others has said, if they changed the view types for a number of rooms wouldnt the result be as we see it?

If that’s the case. They should mark everything as theme park view and premium view. Once enough people complain about it, change those room view categories and allocate those to existing rooms.

I think they over predicted their theme park view and they should reduce the amount of points they have.

 

[Sandisw]

I’m questioning how they are allowed to do that. Maybe they are?

But it makes me wonder why they wouldn’t play more around with that in general. And by adjusting the room types the are essentially admitting they misled owners with the initial availability and or cost of certain room types.

I think it would come down to what is allowed before units are declared. What ability do they have to change things?

That is what I am not sure of…when they decided on things before the sale, did they have to determine total points for the entire project?

Or just for the initial phase? The documents say they don’t end up having to add all of the phases initially planned so if they don’t, wouldn’t it change the overall chart?

I am not clear exactly what people are seeing with the PVB chart..outside of the fact that long houses studios went up 2 points a week for RV and 1 point for PV with what doesn’t seem to be any offset for those elsewhere.

But, I’d the multi-site POS indicates that they can balance across vacation home and homes, does that allow to incorporate the tower rooms to deal with those points?

 

[JackosinDIS]

am not clear exactly what people are seeing with the PVB chart..outside of the fact that long houses studios went up 2 points a week for RV and 1 point for PV with what doesn’t seem to be any offset for those elsewhere.

It wasn’t just 2 points per week, it was 1-2 points per night for all room types across the whole of September!

 

[zavandor]

The multi site POS states:
“Any increase or decrease in the Home Resort Vacation Point reservation requirement for a given Use Day or Vacation Home must be offset by a corresponding increase or decrease for another Use Day or Use Days for that Vacation Home or another Vacation Home or Vacation Homes”

I will defer to your expert knowledge on this, but struggle to see how that precludes a decrease in a different room type.

But, as a Poly owner, I am pretty furious about the change and do not think they should be able to do it.

Whenever the multisite POS is in contradition with a resort POS, the latter wins. Changes to the "real" POS are strictly regulated and it's were most of our rights are held (mostly because they were written before current management took helm, by people who wanted to create a system people could trust).

DVC has tried to slip the change about reallocating across units for years, yet that doesn't make it legal. Especially if (as I think) contradicts the law.

 

[JackosinDIS]

Whenever the multisite POS is in contradition with a resort POS, the latter wins. Changes to the "real" POS are strictly regulated and it's were most of our rights are held (mostly because they were written before current management took helm, by people who wanted to create a system people could trust).

DVC has tried to slip the change about reallocating across units for years, yet that doesn't make it legal. Especially if (as I think) contradicts the law.

Good to know.

I can’t see anything in any of the resort POS documents relating to reallocation of points across seasons or vacation homes though.

 

[Sandisw]

It wasn’t just 2 points per week, it was 1-2 points per night for all room types across the whole of September!

I was only discusiing longhouses since those units are fully declared.

But yes, that was a typo…I should have said per night each week!!

 

[Brian Noble]

(It would be interesting to see if the Maximum Reallocation figures for the longhouses that are published in the POS are still correct.)

In thinking about this more, they might still be correct. The longhouses have one or two more points per night for one month. That adds 1/12 to 1/6 of a point to the maximum reallocation numbers. If those were aleady slightly below the published figures, then this probably does not push them over.

 

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It looks like they just copied Jambo's Data and made a new page with a different color.

Is there any way to remove the Value and Club level rooms from the Kidani page?
Another thing that was copied was the "All sleep up to 4" and "All sleep up to 8" where at Kidani the 1 bedroom should be "Sleeps up to 5" and the 2 bedroom "Sleeps up to 9"

I realize I can hide values myself but it would be easier for folks that are not familiar with the differences between the two resorts.

Other than that it is a great job by your team!!