2026 MMB info Announced

Ah ok so if a member had two direct memberships they could still only buy MMB once and get the 12 BOGO OTUP? I guess i would join for sure then as I wouldnt be missing out on anything. Do you have to buy it in December or can it be bought later in the year whenever you want?
Yes. Because you as a member already have MMB and each MMB member is limited to 12 BOGO points. You may be able to have your spouse also pay for MMB for themselves and buy their 12 BOGO points on the other membership though. Each of the 2 MMB members would have used their 12 BOGO and each membership would have purchased no more than 24 OTUP

You can buy it whenever you want, but each year's program runs from Jan-Dec so you have more of a chance to use it the earlier you buy it
 
Make a seven months reservation, cancel, and bank the extra points?
I don’t think you can bank OTUP, but I could be wrong. Or do you mean, make a 7 month reservation using OTUP, then cancel it, then reallocate those OTUP to a reservation you already had in the same UY, and bank the regular points you freed up by doing that?
 
I don’t think you can bank OTUP, but I could be wrong. Or do you mean, make a 7 month reservation using OTUP, then cancel it, then reallocate those OTUP to a reservation you already had in the same UY, and bank the regular points you freed up by doing that?
That is what I have seen others more knowledgeable than me describe, yes.
 
This is for the DVC Sorcerer Pass which is a discounted annual pass with blockout dates.

This is separate from MMB WDW tickets.
So If you are direct and buy the sorcerer pass, you can onky buy it for people that live with you? But the tickets can be purchased for anyone?
 

@Girlstar30
I have actually bought into the MMB for 2025, and I'm a foreigner. I dont know how many foreigners managed to buy in, but I did. My wife did buy it too last month.
As you should be able to! You paid direct, you should get all direct benefits, I would be upset if i bought direct and paid more than resale and didnt get the benefit!
 
As you should be able to! You paid direct, you should get all direct benefits, I would be upset if i bought direct and paid more than resale and didnt get the benefit!
I agree but at least for 2025, not many foreigners have been able to buy in.

Hoping that 2026 will be different and foreigners will be allowed to buy in.
 
I assume when you exchange your points for an AP, you don't have to pay for the tax, so by my math, the $/point exchange rate is as follows:

New: $1,099 x 1.065 = $1,170.44, 75 pts; $15.60/point
Renewal: $929 x 1.065 = $989.39, 65 pts; $15.20/point

IMO, that's a pretty good exchange rate. After taxes, you're going to have a hard time netting that much renting your points out through a broker. Even if you want to rent out your points on your own for $20/point, if you pay taxes on your income, you're not going to net more than a $1 or $2 per point more than that exchange rate.

I know I recently ran the math on some Disney cruise exchanges, and was getting pretty close to $15/point on some of them. If Disney keeps up these exchange rates, I think it could curtail some of the renting. Or, maybe time for the brokers to raise some of the owner payout rates. I've been monitoring the payouts through dvcrentalstore.com for my two home resorts - for 7-11 month bookings, they are currently paying $15/point at RIV and $16/point at CCV. No thanks.
Wow thats ridiculous. I remember they quoted me low for blt as well. I think David's pays more with $18 pp on "premium" resorts
 
So If you are direct and buy the sorcerer pass, you can onky buy it for people that live with you?

For the Sorcerer Pass, the owners listed on the deed can buy that AP for their immediate family living at same address. If there are multiple owners at different addresses, each of those immediate family households would qualify.

For example, if I was the only owner listed then only my family living at same address would qualify. If I had an adult daughter living elsewhere, she would not qualify. But if she was listed as owner along with me, then she and her family at that other address would qualify (husband, kids). There is not a maximum number - just limited by who qualifies.

But the tickets can be purchased for anyone?

The tickets work a bit differently. In that case it is limited up to 8 tickets (only 7 if you don’t buy for yourself, like say you had AP). To qualify the others need to be either part of your household (same address) OR people going on the trip the same time as you.
 
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I assume when you exchange your points for an AP, you don't have to pay for the tax, so by my math, the $/point exchange rate is as follows:

New: $1,099 x 1.065 = $1,170.44, 75 pts; $15.60/point
Renewal: $929 x 1.065 = $989.39, 65 pts; $15.20/point

IMO, that's a pretty good exchange rate. After taxes, you're going to have a hard time netting that much renting your points out through a broker. Even if you want to rent out your points on your own for $20/point, if you pay taxes on your income, you're not going to net more than a $1 or $2 per point more than that exchange rate.

I know I recently ran the math on some Disney cruise exchanges, and was getting pretty close to $15/point on some of them. If Disney keeps up these exchange rates, I think it could curtail some of the renting. Or, maybe time for the brokers to raise some of the owner payout rates. I've been monitoring the payouts through dvcrentalstore.com for my two home resorts - for 7-11 month bookings, they are currently paying $15/point at RIV and $16/point at CCV. No thanks.
15 pp for RIV? That's terrible. I'll take my chances renting them out myself on the forums or say screw it and book myself a cabin. For that much you're definitely taking a loss while DVCRM runs away selling the points closer to 22 to 25 pp.
 
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Wow thats ridiculous. I remember they quoted me low for blt as well. I think David's pays more with $18 pp on "premium" resorts

15 pp for RIV? That's terrible. I'll take my chances renting them out my other points myself on the forums or say screw it and book myself a cabin. For that much you're definitely taking a loss while DVCRM runs away selling the points closer to 22 to 25 pp.

Yeah, I'm not exactly sure what is going on. I actually rented from them in July, and so I get their promotional e-mails sent to potential renters. There was an e-mail a week or two ago saying something about discount RIV rentals. Looks like their payouts currently for quite a few other resorts aren't terribly great either - AKL/CCV are $16; VGF/Poly/BRV are $17; BWV/VDH/VGC at $18 and BCV at $19 is decent. And, for reservations under 7 months, their payout for all resorts is $13/point. I sometimes wonder if there are actually owners out there claiming these rentals. Or, is DVCRM using their own points to claim some of these rentals? Really don't know. Of course, if you want to rent a confirmed reservation out through them, you can request up to $20/point - I feel like they're basically encouraging spec rentals.

If you can get past the temptation to rent out a confirmed reservation, I think dvcrequest.com is currently running a much more straightforward system and one that is probably better for the rental system as a whole. A flat $18/point for almost all DVC resorts if you use 7-11 month priority, and a flat $16/point if under 7 months. And, they only allow confirmed reservations up to the same payout as they'd give for 7-11 month or under 7 months (and you can lower if you want), so no motivation to get a spec rental.
 
Outside of magical beginnings, it will be the easiest and fastest way to monetize your points. If you’re paying taxes on point rentals, you’ll be hard pressed to come out ahead (and certainly not without more time and effort).
If you rent through the board sponsor, you'll 100% get a 1099-MISC. David's apparently doesn't care about federal reporting requirements. Now, if you decide not to include that income in your gross earnings, well that's on you, but Uncle Sam has a record of the income regardless.

That tax offset, coupled with not having to go through the perils of the personal rental process or even the somewhat easier third-party process (which conversely includes waiting up to 11 months to get the last 25% of the rental fee) definitely adds some appeal to using points for passes.
 
If you rent through the board sponsor, you'll 100% get a 1099-MISC. David's apparently doesn't care about federal reporting requirements. Now, if you decide not to include that income in your gross earnings, well that's on you, but Uncle Sam has a record of the income regardless.
David’s is a Canadian company, not subject to US reporting requirements. So it’s on the DVC owner to report the income.
So, I think what primarily gets David's out of the 1099 reporting obligation (in addition to being Canadian) is that they issue all of their payments through PayPal and, as such, any 1099 reporting obligation gets passed on to PayPal. I believe (although I have not confirmed) that if you elect to get paid through PayPal while renting points through DVCRS, the 1099 reporting obligation also gets passed on to PayPal.

Prior the the "One Big Beautiful Bill" passage in July, 1099 reporting from PayPal was set to be pretty similar to payments if paid directly and not through PayPal. But, that legislation largely reversed that change (outside of large and numerous payments through PayPal). So, going forward, if you rent through either DVCRS or David's and elect to get paid via PayPal, I believe you will be unlikely to receive a 1099 from either of them. Of course, that doesn't mean it is not income - it certainly is. But, not all income is required to be reported on a 1099.
 
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So, I think what primarily gets David's out of the 1099 reporting obligation (in addition to being Canadian) is that they issue all of their payments through PayPal and, as such, any 1099 reporting obligation gets passed on to PayPal. I believe (although I have not confirmed) that if you elect to get paid through PayPal while renting points through DVCRS, the 1099 reporting obligation also gets passed on to PayPal.

Prior the the "One Big Beautiful Bill" passage in July, 1099 reporting from PayPal was set to be pretty similar to payments if paid directly and not through PayPal. But, that legislation largely reversed that change (outside of large and numerous payments through PayPal). So, going forward, if you rent through either DVCRS or David's and elect to get paid via PayPal, I believe you will be unlikely to receive a 1099 from either of them. Of course, that doesn't mean it is not income - it certainly is. But, not all income is required to be reported on a 1099.
Reasonably certain DVC points rental income is taxable though. Whether Uncle Sam gets any wind of it, or if you decide to fess up to it are obviously two very different things.
 








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