2015 sail dates?

[DISNEY FANTASY]

Just a map of where everything is as some people are worried on the Ukraine issues at the moment, the place where the Rissains are protecting thier port is closer to Turkey where the Magic goes this summer, than say St Petersburg.



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I personally think it will have minimal effect.

 

[DISNEY FANTASY]

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Price lists and ports of call for Northern Capitials Cruises in 2010, if we see these in 2015 the prices would exceed the top level quoted as a base.

One cruise was sealed coming back into Dover till 10.30 due to the tides in the English Channel. If you book a cruise to/from Dover do not book a flight too close to the disembarkation time, re tides and an hour to Gatwick, and 90 minutes to Heathrow, Stansted or Luton.

 

[sweetlovin']

Thanks for posting Disney Fantasy! Much easier to plan when it is presented in a simple chart.

 

[DISNEY FANTASY]

Thanks for posting Disney Fantasy! Much easier to plan when it is presented in a simple chart.

Great,

Glad it helps,

Prices will be high.

It was a fantastic cruise in 2010, ours was Tallinn. Which was a loverly city.

Distance between Saint Petersburg, Russia and Sevastopol, Ukraine

1718 km = 1067 miles

St Petersburg to Moscow is over 437 miles. It's 482 miles from Moscow to Kiev.

The flight time from Izmir the major city near Kusdadasi Turkey, to Sevastopol Crimea is one hour, - 500 miles, and the Magic is going there on my cruise this year.

 

[Cousin Orville]

Regarding the proximity concern, when Disney cancelled Tunis they switched to Palermo just 230 miles away. Awesome port btw. They also kept Malta (500 miles away) where Tunisian military pilots were defecting to at the time. Both were great ports. I don't think Russia invading Ukraine alone will have any affect on the Baltic or St. Petersburg in 2015. Russia was at war with Georgia in 2008. It didn't have any affect on Disney making arrangements to visit St Petersburg 2 yrs later. It's safe to assume Disney will strike the Black Sea off it's blue sky list of future possibilities, but I think the Baltic will be ok.

 

[DISNEY FANTASY]

Regarding the proximity concern, when Disney cancelled Tunis they switched to Palermo just 230 miles away. Awesome port btw. They also kept Malta (500 miles away) where Tunisian military pilots were defecting to at the time. Both were great ports. I don't think Russia invading Ukraine alone will have any affect on the Baltic or St. Petersburg in 2015. Russia was at war with Georgia in 2008. It didn't have any affect on Disney making arrangements to visit St Petersburg 2 yrs later. It's safe to assume Disney will strike the Black Sea off it's blue sky list of future possibilities, but I think the Baltic will be OK.

Agree.....

 

[Silverfox97]

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Price lists and ports of call for Northern Capitials Cruises in 2010, if we see these in 2015 the prices would exceed the top level quoted as a base.

I agree with the pricing. It's going to be high. Definitely not a budget cruise (plus airfare), but worth it I'm sure. I'd love to do Baltics & Fjords! There are not many European places on my bucket list, but those are (& Santorini, Greece).

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[jenf22]

I'm still confused though (shocking, I know!)... I thought the fjords cruise ports were 14 days apart. Doesn't that imply there has to be a 7-night between them? I thought people were thinking 7-night fjord and then 7-night Baltic? Is that even possible (distance-wise?)? Could the fjord cruise be 14 nights? Quick! Someone educate me!

 

[DISNEY FANTASY]

I'm still confused though (shocking, I know!)... I thought the fjords cruise ports were 14 days apart. Doesn't that imply there has to be a 7-night between them? I thought people were thinking 7-night fjord and then 7-night Baltic? Is that even possible (distance-wise?)? Could the fjord cruise be 14 nights? Quick! Someone educate me!

Either of those are plausible,

We do not have every piece of the jigsaw at the moment.

I have said since August 2013 that the Magic will also have a homeport in Copenhagen, if that rumor is true them you could have a seven night or ten night Norwegian fjords cruise and you could have a seven night Baltic cruise. You could in theory have a 14 night Fjords cruise but that is going to be very very very expensive and long cruises are out of favor by DCL.

I have posted these cruises from other cruise lines before to illustrate this.


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These are a guide only and DCL could drop a port to fit in a 7 night cruise.

With my friend calling Dover last week, and confirming three visits to Dover only then its reasonable to consider Copenhagen as a home port.

Amsterdam as also been mentioned, not sure if that a call on a repo to Copenhagen.

Lisbon Portugal was well, maybe a call from Dover on the 3rd August on a five night cruise to Barcelona.

 

[Silverfox97]

I'm still confused though (shocking, I know!)... I thought the fjords cruise ports were 14 days apart. Doesn't that imply there has to be a 7-night between them? I thought people were thinking 7-night fjord and then 7-night Baltic? Is that even possible (distance-wise?)? Could the fjord cruise be 14 nights? Quick! Someone educate me!

More than likely they will be 7 night cruises. It might even be two different Fjord itineraries or Fjords alternating with Baltics.

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[NancyIL]

I'm still confused though (shocking, I know!)... I thought the fjords cruise ports were 14 days apart. Doesn't that imply there has to be a 7-night between them? I thought people were thinking 7-night fjord and then 7-night Baltic? Is that even possible (distance-wise?)? Could the fjord cruise be 14 nights? Quick! Someone educate me!

There are varying lengths of Fjords and Baltic cruises. I was on a 12-night Norway cruise from Amsterdam (RCI) in June 2012, but it went to the Arctic Circle and back. While there are some 7-night Baltic cruises, the majority are in the 10 to 14-night range.

Scandinavian countries are expensive to visit, and the cruise prices to those areas reflect that. However, DCL's Baltic cruise prices in 2010 were MUCH higher than other cruise lines - except for luxury lines. Diehard DCL fans probably thought it was worth every penny, but it wasn't a good value to me.

 

[DISNEY FANTASY]

I agree with the pricing. It's going to be high. Definitely not a budget cruise (plus airfare), but worth it I'm sure. I'd love to do Baltics & Fjords! There are not many European places on my bucket list, but those are (& Santorini, Greece).

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Oh yes, I couldn't agree anymore than that you are correct, (1) DCL is expensive, (2) Norway is expensive, and the ports of call expensive, (3), with maybe two cruises that we know of and limited supply, then that will force up the price.

Greece is so beautiful, rather than cruise there I stay there,

Lindos Rhodes is my favorite place in the world bar London. I have stayed there circa eight times.

Corfu, is fantastic, Crete, Samos, Kefalonia, Kos, all lovely islands I have stayed on and driven around.

Athens is so impressive to see the ruins and monuments and walk the Palka.

Turkey is different whilst still hot its green and lush due to rivers from the mountains and Ephesus is the best historical site outside of Athens. And the home of the Virgin Mary nearby.

All should be visited, but maybe after a taster on a cruise stay for a vacation for a week or two to unwind.

To me the Baltic has the benefit of sailing from a port an hour away from me, no flights, no cost, just drive and park and I am on. From the last Baltic cruise I was home at 8.30am.

 

[tajz90]

Hoping for longer cruise, not 7. I'm not sure I would be interested in 7 night cruise with Disney in Europe anywhere. Not the Med or the Baltic. Hoping for at least 10.

We loved our DCL Baltic and we did think it was worth every penny So much so, we will do it again if it's offered... Just not in 7 night increments.

 

[disprincess4ever]

The prices DISNEY FANTASY posted were for 12 night cruises. It seems most likely that DCL will be doing 7 night cruises to Norway/ Baltics. If you consider the shorter length, and 5 year inflation, I can see the prices coming out to the same for the 12 night back in 2010. Using those 12 night prices as a guide, it would cost a family of 4 around $14,000 for a deluxe inside stateroom. I personally think DCL would charge a bit lower for an inside though, around $8-9,000.

 

[DISNEY FANTASY]

The prices DISNEY FANTASY posted were for 12 night cruises. It seems most likely that DCL will be doing 7 night cruises to Norway/ Baltics. If you consider the shorter length, and 5 year inflation, I can see the prices coming out to the same for the 12 night back in 2010. Using those 12 night prices as a guide, it would cost a family of 4 around $14,000 for a deluxe inside stateroom. I personally think DCL would charge a bit lower for an inside though, around $8-9,000.

Dover, England ;-10th July, and returning on 22nd July and back returning on 3rd August, look like a 12 night Baltic cruises.

If they homeport say Copenhagen they can run off shorter cruises to Baltic and Norway. You could add together for a 14 night cruise B2B.

 

[disprincess4ever]

22nd of July looks like a 12 night Baltic cruise. Leaving Dover and returning on 3rd August.

So now we're speculating a 7 night and a 12 night?

 

[jenf22]

There are varying lengths of Fjords and Baltic cruises. I was on a 12-night Norway cruise from Amsterdam (RCI) in June 2012, but it went to the Arctic Circle and back. While there are some 7-night Baltic cruises, the majority are in the 10 to 14-night range.

Scandinavian countries are expensive to visit, and the cruise prices to those areas reflect that. However, DCL's Baltic cruise prices in 2010 were MUCH higher than other cruise lines - except for luxury lines. Diehard DCL fans probably thought it was worth every penny, but it wasn't a good value to me.

Well hopefully DCL learned from the crazy prices in 2010 (I didn't read the discount threads, but I assume they ended up offering *GT rates to fill the ship??). I also noticed when researching the Med last year (for this summer), the 12-night seemed exponentially higher than the 7-night. The 7-night was comparable to our Alaskan itinerary. Hopefully they are trying to get the prices more in family with the other lines.

I just want the itineraries out so I can get the United card and start getting the miles we need for the airfare to Europe. But I'm torn about doing that early. I guess United does fly from Denver to FLL, so we could use the miles for my parents if all else fails...

 

[pillow]

Greece is so beautiful, rather than cruise there I stay there,

Agree! I want to travel around on my own and spend a couple of nights on beautiful Santorini. A friend's daughter did some extended travel a few years back. They spent a really long time in Greece. Fun read if anyone is interested . . .

www.eurosatemydollars.com

Edited: Oops - looks like she took her website down. Pity - her travels were fun to read about.

Jodie

 

[Cousin Orville]

Either of those are plausible,

We do not have every piece of the jigsaw at the moment.

I have said since August 2013 that the Magic will also have a homeport in Copenhagen, if that rumor is true them you could have a seven night or ten night Norwegian fjords cruise and you could have a seven night Baltic cruise. You could in theory have a 14 night Fjords cruise but that is going to be very very very expensive and long cruises are out of favor by DCL.

I have posted these cruises from other cruise lines before to illustrate this.


image by Andrew D Porter, on Flickr


image by Andrew D Porter, on Flickr

These are a guide only and DCL could drop a port to fit in a 7 night cruise.

Drop Kristiansand and I think that's spot on.

1) Copenhagen, Oslo, Bergen, Flam, Geiranger
2) Copenhagen, Stockholm, St. Petersburg, Tallinn, Helsinki.

They could do what they did in 2010 and alternate Tallinn and Helsinki and add Warnemunde. Or maybe something new like Visby, Sweden or Gdansk, Poland but I doubt it. My only complaint on the 7 day Baltic is limited time in St Petersburg.

A Copenhagen->Dover repo could be interesting if they try to pick up some ports not touched by the 7 day cruises. 3 days in St Petersburg would be my unrealistic hope like some cruises do it allowing enough time to go to Moscow. Highly doubt that would happen though.

Depending on price, and we're leaning toward a b2b Fjord and 7 day Baltic.

 

[DISNEY FANTASY]

So now we're speculating a 7 night and a 12 night?

Yes that's always been the speculation.