2010 dvc rates

[spiceycat]

okay so why in this economy is WDW raising rates - just look at BLT rates.

are they crazy? or are they seeing a turn around in the economy that I am certainly not?

http://www.mousesavers.com/dvcresorts2010.html#blt

 

[LUVMICKEY]

Are they kidding. I think I'll stick to using only my points. I don't know why I'm so shocked, but I am.

 

[tjkraz]

Yeah, I think they're a little high, too. But Disney being Disney, they can always discount the rates if rooms are available.

Even with the economy, BLT will probably sell-out sometime in 2010. The volume of cash rooms won't be high. With CR being a convention resort, there could be decent demand for cash villas among some groups. Wasn't all that long ago that we were speculating BLT might actually be all cash suites.

 

[twinklebug]

Good for them if they can get those prices out of people. I love owning DVC.

I think Disney is pulling a Kohls with these prices though. They mark them up extremely high, a few people bite, and people jump all over it when discount or add "free" dining etc. It's all part of their marketing plan.

 

[dismedvc]

I found it interesting that for cash reservations a 1 BR is generally about $70 or about 15% more expensive than a studio. However, when DVC members book using points a 1 BR usually requires 100% more points.

Same trend for 2 BR, under cash reservations a 2BR is generally far less than the cost of 2 studios, but under DVC, a 2 BR is about 2.75 times more points than a studio.

I also found the "season" differences interesting. For example, a BLT standard view studio from Dec 17 - 23 is the highest cost for cash ($550 per night) but is the second lowest for DVC (13 points Sun-Thur, and 20 points Fri, Sat)

The above is for BLT. It is similar for the other resorts, except the 1 BR is closer to 30% more than a studio at most other resorts.

I have no issue with this, I just found it interesting.

 

[jlewisinsyr]

Same trend for 2 BR, under cash reservations a 2BR is generally far less than the cost of 2 studios, but under DVC, a 2 BR is about 2.75 times more points than a studio.

Actually this makes sense considering a 2 bedroom is really more the size of 3 studios, not 2.

In regards to the pricing, also remember to add 12.5% for taxes onto the rates.

 

[dismedvc]

Actually this makes sense considering a 2 bedroom is really more the size of 3 studios, not 2.

In regards to the pricing, also remember to add 12.5% for taxes onto the rates.

I agree, the size of a 2 BR is more like 3 studios, and the size of a 1 BR is more like 2 studios, so for a DVC member the amount of additional points make sense. I was just supprised the same proportion is not used for cash reservations.

 

[JoQuo711]

I agree that those rates are crazy high, but I just compared them to the 2009 rates and most times of year the difference in rates is only $10/night higher for Studio and 1BR and $20/night higher for 2BR (2-3% increase overall). The rack rates are already crazy for 2009.

 

[kato0627]

Just one more reason to love DVC
We just stayed at AKV for 9 nights SV one br. It would have cost us almost
6500. WOW~ we get to go for 40+ more years

 

[DebbieB]

Does anyone ever pay full price? If I look back at all my non-DVC reservations, I don't think I ever paid full price unless it came with a deal ($250 in Disney Dollars, Free breakfasts, etc). I think Disney jacks up the prices so that they can discount them and make people think they got a "deal".

 

[arthur06]

Does anyone ever pay full price? If I look back at all my non-DVC reservations, I don't think I ever paid full price unless it came with a deal ($250 in Disney Dollars, Free breakfasts, etc). I think Disney jacks up the prices so that they can discount them and make people think they got a "deal".

Correct! Once Disney announces YEARLY rates, they are pretty much married to them. Free Dining, PIN codes, etc are figured into those.

 

[kristenrice]

We have a vacation booked for Easter week at AKV with my parents. We booked two standard studios (Jambo) for 2 nights and then 3 nights in a standard 2BR at Kidani. It is "costing" us 206 points, which is 2 years worth, plus 6 banked. When I saw the rack rates.......then....! There is NO WAY we would ever take a 5 night vacation where the lodging alone cost almost $6000! Since we only paid $8200 for our contract, we are doing great. In fact, our trip this past June would have been about $2000 at rack rate so we have almost "broke even"...even though we would NEVER have taken these trips without DVC. I am looking forward to the next 40-some years of Disney vacations.

 

["Got Disney"]

Good lord. Maybe they also have those prices to say to the people that are staying and not DVC members..... "If ya buy into DVC look how much $$$$$ you could save".

They are very high prices.

 

[Pootle]

I suspect that very few non-discounted rooms are sold ..... but, a high rack rate not only makes the discounts look better, it also increases revenue from the cash nights (rack minus 25%?) paid by DVC members - usually for weekend nights.

 

[alldiz]

It certainly ain't cheap to see the mouse
Kerri

 

[nunzia]

Good for them if they can get those prices out of people. I love owning DVC.

I think Disney is pulling a Kohls with these prices though. They mark them up extremely high, a few people bite, and people jump all over it when discount or add "free" dining etc. It's all part of their marketing plan.

Yep...I kind of find that annoying..like at Penneys, every weekend is THE BIGGEST SALE OF THE YEAR!
I'd rather just have fair prices that remain the same then feel you have to chase a deal or wonder if you are getting 'ripped off' because the prices may go down next week. Glad to be DVC also...

 

[DebbieB]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";33125495]Good lord. Maybe they also have those prices to say to the people that are staying and not DVC members..... "If ya buy into DVC look how much $$$$$ you could save".

They are very high prices.[/QUOTE]

I think all the prices are high, not just DVC. $149 for a moderate in value season?

 

[twinklebug]

I think all the prices are high, not just DVC. $149 for a moderate in value season?

Yea, I like the mods, but that's nuts.

I think this says we can continue to see lots of "amazing" discounts being offered up throughout the next year.

 

[Chuck S]

They price them high so they can give discounts and make people feel like they've gotten a bargain. Like the stores that sell 2 items by have a buy one, get one at 50% off sale, rather than selling one item at 25% off. Same discount, but the store makes more $$ overall. Ask the average shopper, they'll think buy one, get one at 50% off is a better deal than 25% off per item.

 

[lark]

I also found the "season" differences interesting. For example, a BLT standard view studio from Dec 17 - 23 is the highest cost for cash ($550 per night) but is the second lowest for DVC (13 points Sun-Thur, and 20 points Fri, Sat).

Same is true in reverse too. From July 18 through August is "value" season for WDW resorts and have the best prices. $520 for a one bedroom MK view at BLT. The same reservation for DVC is "Magic Season" so it would cost 45 points weeknight or 68 weekend.

For late summer travelers, cash ressies are comparatively cheap. Just to give an example, I could book a 6-day BLT 1 BR MK view, starting July 18, for $2983.50, with a triple A discount and tax. If codes come out later, this could down even further, maybe to $2600 or free dining or something.

The same stay would cost me 293 points -- so basically about $10 per point right now and more like $9 per point if more discounts better than AAA come out. If you take the weekend day out of there, and just assume a Sunday to Thursday stay, the cash price is $2486.25. A corresponding stay would be 225 points, so a little better. This assumes good availability, though. Right now, it looks as though BLT is wide open for cash reservations online 11 months in advance.

The bottom line is that I'm actually a bit disappointed that cash reservation prices are not higher. For certain periods of time, there really is no advantage for someone wanting to rent points -- they could just make a cash reservation and avoid the hassle of a rental.