16 and Pregnant Part 2

[Mrs. Charming]

Nikkole seems like such a sweet girl but she's clinging onto Josh for dear life... and he doesn't seem to give a hoot. I just hope that this experience and her reactions aren't an indication of future abusive relationships to come. She deserves better.

 

[brockash]

I didn't personally take the fight between the mother and Josh as a "who is more important" fight, at least on her mother's part because obviously the baby is number one. Josh is completely selfish and not to mention a criminal (arrested for larceny when she was 5 months pregnant) and cares more about himself that anyone else. I think her mother was just saying that she trumps him because she is financially raising this baby and sincerely has her daughter's best interest at heart. I really hope this show is teaching teens to be more choosy when they allow someone to come near them with their pants off.

Not to mention the fact that really the fight had started when the mom was trying to get him to stop bugging the crap out of the mom of his baby while she was in labor. I seriously wanted to reach through the tv and slap the crap out of him. All he was concerned about was himself, and he got mad if everyone around him didn't make him the center of attention. HELLO you little creep, the mother of your baby is in labor, you idiot. Man, he infuriated me. I'm glad his mom told him to stop, but if it were me I wouldv'e pulled his butt out of there and been much more forceful ect. The best thing for the mom and baby would for him to dissappear. The mom and daughter seemed to have a pretty descent relationship, and they seemed to have an okay homelife, so hopefully things work out well for them.

 

[pweyl36]

As much as I wanted to slap Janelle last week...I wanted just as much to strangle that Josh last night...he was horrible! If my DD ever brought home a boy that treated her like that, I don't know what I'd do. I commend Nikkole's mom for not killing him in the labor room!

I agree about mom,me I probably would of punch him in his Face!

 

[pweyl36]

I didn't personally take the fight between the mother and Josh as a "who is more important" fight, at least on her mother's part because obviously the baby is number one. Josh is completely selfish and not to mention a criminal (arrested for larceny when she was 5 months pregnant) and cares more about himself that anyone else. I think her mother was just saying that she trumps him because she is financially raising this baby and sincerely has her daughter's best interest at heart. I really hope this show is teaching teens to be more choosy when they allow someone to come near them with their pants off.

This is why I make my 12yr dd watch,so I can tell her what kind of boys to not date and how they treat you when they find out that you are preganet. These girls are crazy to think that these boys will love them even more.

 

[LunchladyDoris]

Not to mention the fact that really the fight had started when the mom was trying to get him to stop bugging the crap out of the mom of his baby while she was in labor. I seriously wanted to reach through the tv and slap the crap out of him. All he was concerned about was himself, and he got mad if everyone around him didn't make him the center of attention. HELLO you little creep, the mother of your baby is in labor, you idiot. Man, he infuriated me. I'm glad his mom told him to stop, but if it were me I wouldv'e pulled his butt out of there and been much more forceful ect. The best thing for the mom and baby would for him to dissappear. The mom and daughter seemed to have a pretty descent relationship, and they seemed to have an okay homelife, so hopefully things work out well for them.

UGH, What made him so repugnant was that he was trying to make this girl who was in labor, move on her own bed.

 

[stahshee]

what does trump him mean???

 

[pweyl36]

I thought last nights girl seemed so sweet and nurturing (and I loved that she played rock band with little bro! Not many teens seem interested in hanging with younger siblings). I thought her mom seemed great too, just trying to protect a daughter who seems like the sort of girl who doesn't stand up and protect herself. I just hope (like everyone else) that she see's that boy for what he really is, and gets enough fight in her to tell him off! He's horrible!!! Like a 2 year old in a teenagers body. His poor mom seemed like she was really trying too. I loved how supportive she was of Nicole and the baby.

His poor mom? She raised him like that, now that he's older its hard to discapline him. What he is doing to Nikkole is verbal abuse!!!

 

[minniebeth]

what does trump him mean???

"Wins out on" or "overrules"

For expample, if you are playing cards, the Ace is higher than a King.
If it's played in a hand, the Ace will win, or beat the King...

 

[monkeybug]

His poor mom? She raised him like that, now that he's older its hard to discapline him. What he is doing to Nikkole is verbal abuse!!!

Not every bad kid was the result of bad parenting. Some good kids go through bad phases too. I have no idea what kind of mom she is, or what did or did not take place in their home that brought him to where he is. I just know that from what they showed on the episode, she seemed very supportive of Nikkole and her mom, and she seemed to really be trying to rein in her son and have him show some respect. I felt bad for her. I think I feel bad even for the ones who brought it upon them selves (like Janelles mom). I'm sure she wishes she had done things differently (or I hope she does) and I feel bad that she is in the situation she is in.

 

[MizTink]

His poor mom? She raised him like that, now that he's older its hard to discapline him. What he is doing to Nikkole is verbal abuse!!!

and it's how he probably talks to and treats his mom (and sisters, if any) too.

 

[MizTink]

Not every bad kid was the result of bad parenting. Some good kids go through bad phases too. I have no idea what kind of mom she is, or what did or did not take place in their home that brought him to where he is. I just know that from what they showed on the episode, she seemed very supportive of Nikkole and her mom, and she seemed to really be trying to rein in her son and have him show some respect. I felt bad for her. I think I feel bad even for the ones who brought it upon them selves (like Janelles mom). I'm sure she wishes she had done things differently (or I hope she does) and I feel bad that she is in the situation she is in.

this could be very true too.........

 

[pweyl36]

this could be very true too.........

I have to disagree, I have three children and they were taught to respect people. Iam tired at how people say its a phase they will grow out of it. When people start disciplining their kids and stop being thier friends maybe we would have nicer children. I use to say that I would never raise my kids they I was raised, but you know what Iam and my kids always get complimented on how well they were raised. Heck ,my 22yr ds has been working at his job since he graduated form high school in '06 and now has his own appt. Not many people can say that. Just stop being their friends and be their parents. If your child tell you that they hate you then you did your job!

 

[monkeybug]

I have to disagree, I have three children and they were taught to respect people. Iam tired at how people say its a phase they will grow out of it. When people start disciplining their kids and stop being thier friends maybe we would have nicer children. I use to say that I would never raise my kids they I was raised, but you know what Iam and my kids always get complimented on how well they were raised. Heck ,my 22yr ds has been working at his job since he graduated form high school in '06 and now has his own appt. Not many people can say that. Just stop being their friends and be their parents. If your child tell you that they hate you then you did your job!

True! And I completly agree. My parents were far, far, far from our friends! They were the strictest parents out of all my friends parents. I was grounded for 6 months once because I loaded the dishwasher incorrectly!!!
My little brother still tried selling pot in 6th grade, talked back, ran away to the canyon for three days (had national guard helicopters out looking for him), and was generally a lot of trouble for bit!! My poor parents were at their wits end with him. Thankfully it was just a phase (for the most part...) and he is a normal (if not extremely stubborn!!!) and doing well now. He still thinks my parents were horrible, awful, mean people....but that will change when he has his own family (hopefully many, many, years from now!)
There is no one formula that works with kids. You can do exactly the same thing for 4 kids, and have 4 completely different results!

 

[KAMLEM]

And in the scenes with Jenelle's mom and dad, every time jenelle's dad tries to talk, the mom screeches over him.

I don't think he's her dad, I thought they referred to him as her mother's boyfriend.

 

[brockash]

Not every bad kid was the result of bad parenting. Some good kids go through bad phases too. I have no idea what kind of mom she is, or what did or did not take place in their home that brought him to where he is. I just know that from what they showed on the episode, she seemed very supportive of Nikkole and her mom, and she seemed to really be trying to rein in her son and have him show some respect. I felt bad for her. I think I feel bad even for the ones who brought it upon them selves (like Janelles mom). I'm sure she wishes she had done things differently (or I hope she does) and I feel bad that she is in the situation she is in.

I agree that kids go through PITA phases ect., and I do feel bad for Josh's mom, because I'm sure she wishes he wasn't the way he is, however I do put blame on her and Josh's Dad.- Who knows which is to blame more, but she somehow allowed him to grow up and think this behavior was okay, if even just by not taking strong action when she first saw this behavoir start. I'm telling you, it was great that she told him to stop in the delivery room, however she was WAYYYYYYY to passive. I can't imagine ever being that passive if I ever heard my son talk that way or do the things he was doing ect. She needs to (and I'm sure should have a long time ago) step up and have a much stronger voice.

 

[mskani]

Are you friggin kidding me?!

This boy is sooooooo immature and disrespectful!! What a jerk!! When he broke up with her, I felt so bad for her.

When he told her to scoot over while she was in full blown labor and basically berated her for crying because she was uncomfortable, I wanted to come thru the TV and strangle him. I hope that she can get over her "obsession" with him and move on with her life. I know that he will always be a part of her and Lyle's lives, but hopefully she will find peace and happiness.

 

[pyrxtc]

Nikkole needs to dump him for good and get him gone. his mother seems nice and should be part of Lyle's life but kick Josh to the curb. Cheating while she is pregnant should have been the last straw but he did it again right after Lyle was born. he would be so over.

 

[acejka]

I wanted to knock that little brat out! I could have reached through the TV and choked him! How disrespectful can you get? I would have gotten my butt torn up up for acting like that to an adult. My grandma (raised me) wouldn't put up with that stuff.

Nikkole seems to be such a sweet girl, she acted like she was really trying to learn to be a mother and take part in Lyle's life. She was also so sweet with her little brother. I hope she is able to let that boy go. She doesn't need that stress as a new mother.

I liked that her mother was supportive and understanding with her even though the circumstances were not perfect. I also would not let the boy back in my house if he wasn't respecting me and my daughter.

 

[anewmac]

Are you friggin kidding me?!

This boy is sooooooo immature and disrespectful!! What a jerk!! When he broke up with her, I felt so bad for her.

When he told her to scoot over while she was in full blown labor and basically berated her for crying because she was uncomfortable, I wanted to come thru the TV and strangle him. I hope that she can get over her "obsession" with him and move on with her life. I know that he will always be a part of her and Lyle's lives, but hopefully she will find peace and happiness.

OMG good Im glad Im not alone I felt the same way about that lil boy.

I liked that her mother was supportive and understanding with her even though the circumstances were not perfect. I also would not let the boy back in my house if he wasn't respecting me and my daughter.

I liked her mom execpt when she and that "LIL BOY" were going about trying to TRUMP eachother I kept screaming.. HELLO neither one of you are #1... its all about THE BABY!

 

[stahshee]

Nikkole needs to dump him for good and get him gone. his mother seems nice and should be part of Lyle's life but kick Josh to the curb. Cheating while she is pregnant should have been the last straw but he did it again right after Lyle was born. he would be so over.

and what girl would want to date him while he had anothor girl pregnant. I would think that umm he is a hunk of crap ....I would also have a HUGE problem if myy dd dated a boy who had an x girlfriend pregnat in highschool or any time in his life..that just to many problems and it says alot about the kind of guy he is