13 Year old gir declared brain dead has now officially died

My disgust with the legal system right now is at an all time high. Now who is playing God? The mother claims she is moving... In reality it is most likely rigor mortis setting in and the muscles are contracting. I feel if the judge is going to let the family say what they want then he should allow the hospital to bypass HIPAA and tell their side of the story. Eventually her heart will stop. My heart breaks for this little girl who has not been allowed to die in peace and with dignity. As I said before, she is a pawn in this legal game.

My guess is that someone called these places and said hey we have a comatose/vegetative state child who needs care, etcetera. And when they find out it this high profile case they turn tail and run as I am sure their legal departments apart have a coronary. And most services will not transport without a stable airway and if she is on multiple drips for blood pressure etc, they can not take her. Most of these places are custodial in care only.
 
Isn't there some law against abuse of a corpse?

Just looking at it from a biological perspective is nasty.

This poor girl will be remembered for this instead of being the sweet girl she probably was.
 
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That poor girl is in my prayers. How terrible.
 

I didn't think of it that way but I absolutely think this IS abuse of a corpse. :(

I agree this is abuse and I wish someone would step in for the best interest of the child because her parents certainly are not concerned about what is in her best interest or this would have ended 2 weeks ago.

Can the hospital staff refuse to care for her? Just asking because if I were a nurse, there is no way that I could handle her daily care. It would break my heart day after day.
 
I just pray she will go into multiple organ failure soon. It really is only a matter of time.

The night before my dad had a massive heart attack I was the last of us three kids to see the details of his living will. We had to remove life support five days later. Leave it to the stubborn man he was to keep breathing for three more days. :confused3. It's almost been 18 years since he's been gone. I never regretted the decision. My dad died the moment his heart stopped the first time. We had one of the best weeks of our live together the week before that. I hold that very close to my heart.
 
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This is sick. How many weeks have they known the child is brain dead? What are they wanting to do? She is gone. They need to move on with this - how horrible for this poor girl - everyone will remember her for this and not for the sweet child she was. I understand the need to grieve but why are they doing this to the child's corpse? It has to be awful - but they aren't being rational.
 
I'm also going to put a ton of blame on whatever facility is planning on taking her. Shame on them!
 
I'm skeptical that there's really a facility ready to take her. The parents are fundraising to move her. But who's going to pay the huge daily cost once she is moved?

I'm so disappointed in that judge's decision. I understand these are complicated issues. But really. There is no disagreement from what I have seen among the doctors.

Let her go with what tiny bit of dignity she might still have.
 
I'm skeptical that there's really a facility ready to take her. The parents are fundraising to move her. But who's going to pay the huge daily cost once she is moved?

I'm so disappointed in that judge's decision. I understand these are complicated issues. But really. There is no disagreement from what I have seen among the doctors.

Let her go with what tiny bit of dignity she might still have.

I don't think there is a facility willing to take her, either.
 
I wonder if the judge knows more medically than he's letting on. If those medical people here (I trust everyone is on the up and up) that eventually her organs will cease, is the judge betting that the family will see and perhaps eventually understand the death?

Otherwise, they will just continue to blame the hospital.
 
I know people are saying keeping her on the ventilator is sick and abuse of corpse and that she won't last another week but I'm confused. Isn't there a brain dead woman being kept on a ventilator in Texas? Anyone know what I'm talking about? I don't know her name but I remember reading about a pregnant woman in Texas that had been declared brain dead. Her family wants the ventilator removed but the law won't allow it because she is pregnant.

Are they a different kind of brain dead or are people just making stuff up about her body starting to break down on the ventilator? In the Texas situation they (the hospital) are keeping her on it at least a few more weeks to see if there was any damage to the fetus. If they think it's OK physically (I guess they will have no idea about mental damage) they will keep the woman on it basically as an incubator.
 
I'm skeptical that there's really a facility ready to take her. The parents are fundraising to move her. But who's going to pay the huge daily cost once she is moved? I'm so disappointed in that judge's decision. I understand these are complicated issues. But really. There is no disagreement from what I have seen among the doctors. Let her go with what tiny bit of dignity she might still have.

I completely agree with all you've said. Such a sad situation.
 
I know people are saying keeping her on the ventilator is sick and abuse of corpse and that she won't last another week but I'm confused. Isn't there a brain dead woman being kept on a ventilator in Texas? Anyone know what I'm talking about? I don't know her name but I remember reading about a pregnant woman in Texas that had been declared brain dead. Her family wants the ventilator removed but the law won't allow it because she is pregnant. Are they a different kind of brain dead or are people just making stuff up about her body starting to break down on the ventilator? In the Texas situation they (the hospital) are keeping her on it at least a few more weeks to see if there was any damage to the fetus. If they think it's OK physically (I guess they will have no idea about mental damage) they will keep the woman on it basically as an incubator.

This is exactly what I have been questioning about people saying her organs were essentially shut down. If they can keep the woman in TX "alive" long enough to check the viability of the fetus, how is the 13 y.o. going to essentially start decomposing (not trying to sound unsympathetic.... I'm genuinely curious)
 
I can not imagine what the parents are going through. This is a very sad situation all around.

I read several articles about this sweet girl and what the parents have said is going on with her. They stated that she moves when the mother talks and some times breaths on her own.

Since they stated the above things .... it makes me wonder if they are thinking about the girl that was claimed brain dead in July and wasn't. This girl moved when touched and breathed on her own at times; however, the doctors didn't listen to the nurses and still declared the girl brain dead. Anyway, I don't know the entire story of the girl, but she woke up right before she was about to have her organs harvested out of her.
 
Great, we get to relive the Terri Schiavo case all over again complete with unrealistic parents and the courts setting deadlines and then re-setting them over and over again. I wonder when congress will get involved.

It it's sad to see this stuff drag on. Let her die, it is the only possible eventual outcome anyway. No need to drag it out.
 














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