12/09/06 Cruise Continued ~ Pirating Bananas DIS Geekorama Part 2 Part 15

[goofyforlife]

I was but I left to work on my TR

We are still in there...PJ is here!

 

[lbgraves]

WM makes me nervous now. A friend was harrassed by police there before Christmas. I just found out about this yesterday. She took her son & coworker there to pick up things for the office Christmas party. They are social workers & had the kids come to the office. They walked in and decided to hit the bathroom first before they started shopping. The friend was approached by a cop & asked to go to the back of the store. The office & bathrooms are back there. My friend walked back with her to see what was wrong & have her son use the bathroom. Turned out that a woman helped a man load up 2 carts with DVDs and he left the store with over 3000 worth of merchandise. They caught him but were looking for the woman. WM security told the police a heavyset woman with brown hair. They never viewed the tape. Her friend was pointed out as matching the ID & it went from there. It was terrible. She wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom and they threatened to have CPS come get her son. The scarey thing is if this could happen to her it can happen to anyone. I was shocked at what she told me.

 

[pyramid2000]

Well we are all hunkered down here. DH's work let out at noon and mine at 3:30 but my boss came around and told our team about 2:45 that we should get out of there and get home. Hopefully the kids will behave and we won't be stuck home for more than a couple of days. The latest forecasts have us getting 1/4 - 1 inch of ice by Sunday evening. My only really worry is that we could lose power. We have always had good luck and kept our power during previous storms but this one is a bit bigger than anything we have seen since we moved here.

 

[pjpoohbear]

Lisa, that is horrible. You would at least think if they really thought she was the women, after they had her in custody, they would then take a look at the tapes, before proceeding any further.

Pj

 

[MrsMork]

WM makes me nervous now. A friend was harrassed by police there before Christmas. I just found out about this yesterday. She took her son & coworker there to pick up things for the office Christmas party. They are social workers & had the kids come to the office. They walked in and decided to hit the bathroom first before they started shopping. The friend was approached by a cop & asked to go to the back of the store. The office & bathrooms are back there. My friend walked back with her to see what was wrong & have her son use the bathroom. Turned out that a woman helped a man load up 2 carts with DVDs and he left the store with over 3000 worth of merchandise. They caught him but were looking for the woman. WM security told the police a heavyset woman with brown hair. They never viewed the tape. Her friend was pointed out as matching the ID & it went from there. It was terrible. She wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom and they threatened to have CPS come get her son. The scarey thing is if this could happen to her it can happen to anyone. I was shocked at what she told me.

Strange thing is that when DS worked for WM his biggest frustration was that they did not stop people that he knew had stolen items. Different store, different area I guess. Sorry your friend had to go thru that. Did she speak with managment, call Bentonville, about the harrassement without reviewing the tape. I'd be on the phone NOW!

 

[MrsMork]

I just re-read your post, Lisa and it sounds like it was the local police that were over zealous without viewing the tape, not WM security. Is that right or am I misreading it?

 

[lbgraves]

They have filed a complaint with the police report and made a recorded statement. They were threatened, not told of the charge against them...just told to confess or it would be a long night. Also, they were NEVER read their rights at any time when they were being harrassed. She uses the word harrassed because they were never arrested or officially charged with anything. There was never anything said about a woman with a boy with this guy but because she "followed" them to the back on the way to the bathroom, they decided that she must be involved too.

 

[lbgraves]

I just re-read your post, Lisa and it sounds like it was the local police that were over zealous without viewing the tape, not WM security. Is that right or am I misreading it?

Noone ever viewed the tape. Now the police are saying that WM security pointed her friend out to them and WM is saying they just gave a description of the person NOT based on the tape. The officer even told her not to go anywhere because he wasn't going to take it easy on her when they came to pick her up at her house after they got the proof they needed. I told her she needs to get it in writing that she is cleared. I would then go to the media. Her 7 yo is now terrified of the police.

 

[lbgraves]

Lisa, that is horrible. You would at least think if they really thought she was the women, after they had her in custody, they would then take a look at the tapes, before proceeding any further.

Pj

That would require brain cells, PJ.

 

[lbgraves]

Night all! William is celebrating his birthday tomorrow by having a friend over for the day & night. It's his first time having a friend sleep over and he is so excited. We will probably go see Charlotte's Web, get pizza, and just let them camp out in the family room.

 

[MrsMork]

I hate to say this, but this sounds exactly, exactly like the tactics our local police use. Although most people think they have to tell you what your right are, they do not! Here you are told what your rights are at your first hearing in front of a judge when you are told what you are charged with. The judge reads you your rights. By that time you have been in custody for at least 24 hours and they don't even have to tell you what you are charged with. True story. We and people we know have had more than one experience with them. Charges filed based on an unsigned complaint 2 months after the fact, no discussion with anyone involved (supposed perpetrator or witnesses). Notification of the charges came in a letter with instructions on when to show up at court. Took an attorney and more than a couple of dollars to get that ridiculous mess dropped. Which did happen prior to the court date after our attorney gathered the names and statements of 5 witnesses....people the police and district attorney failed to talk with...and submitted them to the DA.

 

[MrsMork]

Happy Birthday to William! Hope he has a great time with his buddy staying over! What fun!

 

[Jhalkias]

WM makes me nervous now. A friend was harrassed by police there before Christmas. I just found out about this yesterday. She took her son & coworker there to pick up things for the office Christmas party. They are social workers & had the kids come to the office. They walked in and decided to hit the bathroom first before they started shopping. The friend was approached by a cop & asked to go to the back of the store. The office & bathrooms are back there. My friend walked back with her to see what was wrong & have her son use the bathroom. Turned out that a woman helped a man load up 2 carts with DVDs and he left the store with over 3000 worth of merchandise. They caught him but were looking for the woman. WM security told the police a heavyset woman with brown hair. They never viewed the tape. Her friend was pointed out as matching the ID & it went from there. It was terrible. She wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom and they threatened to have CPS come get her son. The scarey thing is if this could happen to her it can happen to anyone. I was shocked at what she told me.

Of course, I do not know all the details, but it sounds like a lawsuit to me.

No probable cause, and false imprisonment.

John1

 

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Happy Birthday William

 

[pjpoohbear]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY WILLIAM!​

Auntie Pj

 

[lbgraves]

I hate to say this, but this sounds exactly, exactly like the tactics our local police use. Although most people think they have to tell you what your right are, they do not! Here you are told what your rights are at your first hearing in front of a judge when you are told what you are charged with. The judge reads you your rights. By that time you have been in custody for at least 24 hours and they don't even have to tell you what you are charged with. True story. We and people we know have had more than one experience with them. Charges filed based on an unsigned complaint 2 months after the fact, no discussion with anyone involved (supposed perpetrator or witnesses). Notification of the charges came in a letter with instructions on when to show up at court. Took an attorney and more than a couple of dollars to get that ridiculous mess dropped. Which did happen prior to the court date after our attorney gathered the names and statements of 5 witnesses....people the police and district attorney failed to talk with...and submitted them to the DA.

INCREDIBLE!!!! I have heard people complain about the police force here but this is the first time anyone I know has had a problem. The saddest part is that the only reason things were dropped against them is the work that they do. They know a police officer and went directly to his house after being released to find out what the deal was. He ended up being friends with the idiot at WM who harrassed them so she thinks that while he vouched for them he also told the guy to CYA...which is why the final report is inaccurate. He saw them at dinner before this theft happened. Her receipt was 20 minutes before they got to WM and her cel had a call for over 6 minutes with a client who called her with a problem.

 

[lbgraves]

Um...William wants me to tell you guys something. It's not really his birthday now. It was 11/14 but due to me being too scattered and unorganized to plan anything that close to the cruise & holidays it never happened. I think that I am going to start planning something for them really soon so that I will be prepared this year. DD is going to have a luau pool party in September.

 

[lbgraves]

Of course, I do not know all the details, but it sounds like a lawsuit to me.

No probable cause, and false imprisonment.

John1

That's exactly what I told her.

 

[lillygator]

morning all....Lisa - hope William has fun with his sleepover....and that you actually get some sleep!

John promised the girls we would go to WDW tomorrow for the day so I am trying to choose a park and straighten the house so we can come home to a clean house.

It's gorgeous out, just as we had cold weather for a day, now we can swim. Crazy....

 

[klineyqueen]

morning all....Lisa - hope William has fun with his sleepover....and that you actually get some sleep!

John promised the girls we would go to WDW tomorrow for the day so I am trying to choose a park and straighten the house so we can come home to a clean house.

It's gorgeous out, just as we had cold weather for a day, now we can swim. Crazy....

I hope you guys have a great day at the park. That would be so amazing...to be able to just spend the day at WDW.