She knows about this site- I've been talking her ear off about the cruise thread and she's visited it before when she plans trips- actually, she's the one that showed me the site! Anyway- Her son will just be truning 12 the month after the cruise- but he's a big kid- almost as tall as his 15 year old brother. Maturity? I don't know. I don't really have daily or even yearly contact with the kids as they live in Wi, and I live here in Or. But they're both pretty good kids- honor roll- gifted and talented etc.