Teresa Pitman
Disney Grandma
- Joined
- Aug 29, 2005
Some vegans do eat honey, but many of us don't. I'm in the group that doesn't.
I absolutely did not know vegans didn't eat honey. Never really thought it through, I guess.
My mom didn't make us eat what was on the plate, but she sure as hell wasn't be a short-order cook. We could either go hungry or make a PB&J. Her exception to this was when it came to what other people cooked, especially Grandpa. When Grandpa made vegetable soup, by God we were going to his house and by God I was going to eat it whether I liked it or not.
To this day I can't stand vegetable soup.
I've got a vague understanding of ethical veganism and I guess it breaks down in that I've not considering bees as animals, but then again if one considers any living thing that isn't a plant is an animal, it's logical.I eat honey occasionally. I also wear leather shoes and boots; not proudly but I do. Mostly I eat a plant based diet for my health. I'm not an ethical vegan however eating this way has opened my eyes much wider to the animal cause.
I do greatly admire ethical vegans.
I've got a vague understanding of ethical veganism and I guess it breaks down in that I've not considering bees as animals, but then again if one considers any living thing that isn't a plant is an animal, it's logical.
I'm not even slightly bothered by what others eat or don't eat, or why. I find it very illogical that vegetarians and vegans report being derided for NOT eating meat (or whatever). If ideology is in play, I could see it going the other way, but why on earth would it bother any omnivore that somebody else chooses differently? I don't exactly lay awake nights pondering this, but honestly, I just can't make sense of it.
I've got a vague understanding of ethical veganism and I guess it breaks down in that I've not considering bees as animals, but then again if one considers any living thing that isn't a plant is an animal, it's logical.
I'm not even slightly bothered by what others eat or don't eat, or why. I find it very illogical that vegetarians and vegans report being derided for NOT eating meat (or whatever). If ideology is in play, I could see it going the other way, but why on earth would it bother any omnivore that somebody else chooses differently? I don't exactly lay awake nights pondering this, but honestly, I just can't make sense of it.
OMG - I've never heard it put that way before, and if it's true... Nobody, anywhere eats raw chicken!A lot - but the first two that come to mind are sushi (the pot cooking the rice is right there - throw the fish in!) and oysters of any kind (cooked or raw). On the oysters - it is safer to eat raw chicken than it is to eat raw oysters.
Any vegetables
Potatoes
Salad
Any Condiments
Rice
Sushi
Meatloaf
Lamb, liver, salmon, swordfish
Peaches, apricots, prunes
I am one of those people that don't eat vegetables (or many fruits). I honestly don't think I have a very balanced diet. However, I have a very strong gag reflux & just can't get them down. I wish I could, but I can't. A tiny piece of lettuce hidden in a sandwich totally makes me gag. I'm in my forties and at this point very healthy. Totally regular, maintain a healthy weight, and am almost never sick. Haven't even had so much as a cold in years.
Are you making some kind of distinction between vegetables in general and leafy salad greens in particular, or would you eat any vegetable if it was chopped up in a bowl with dressing on it?I'm nit big on veggies, but I could eat salad twice a day for the rest of my life & never get sick of it LOL
Bees ARE animals, biologically. I do not know why it bothers people, but yes, most vegans will tell you that they often get told off or subjected to lectures.
I don't think there is anything especially admirable about being an ethical vegan. I grew up on a farm, and saw the suffering of animals but accepted what my parents told me - that it was necessary, we had to eat them or we'd die. I believed that for a long time. Then I got older and learned I could eat a healthy diet without causing suffering and death. Why wouldn't I do that? To me, knowing what animals have to go through makes it so easy to avoid eating those foods. (Especially now, with many vegan convenience foods on the market.) Anyway, I didn't meant to turn it into a lecture on being vegan - I'm not wanting to push it on people, at all. Just explaining why I do it.
Are you making some kind of distinction between vegetables in general and leafy salad greens in particular, or would you eat any vegetable if it was chopped up in a bowl with dressing on it?
And we're calling salad just lettuce, or what? {{sigh}} My DH is not a veggie guy either, which is a real drag sometimes because he won't even tolerate certain things on his plate, let alone eat them. On principle he'll actually make an alternate selection at restaurants if something he wants lists sides he doesn't like. Crazy right?!?No, I definitely wouldn't eat just "any" veggie chopped up in a salad. And even some leafy green ones are a no-go (kale). I do eat peas, corn, green beans, and a few others. But, they all rank below meat, grain, & salad on my preference list
And we're calling salad just lettuce, or what? {{sigh}} My DH is not a veggie guy either, which is a real drag sometimes because he won't even tolerate certain things on his plate, let alone eat them. On principle he'll actually make an alternate selection at restaurants if something he wants lists sides he doesn't like. Crazy right?!?