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Orlando Sentinel story about "inappropriate fondling" on the Dream

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  1. PatriciaH

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    The original story had the picture of the report published. The names of the people were blacked out, but it was from DCL.
     
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  3. PatriciaH

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    :rotfl: but :sad1: too
     
  4. DMMarla07860

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    I agree I don't see Disney issuing a press release on it. I'd like one, but they prob wont that's why I find so funny about this thread. People want it, but it prob wont happen and maybe that's good too
     
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    my understanding is no, if the DA believes that a crime against a minor has been committed, i believe he can file charges independently of the victims wishes ( although I am sure they do consider them).

    But the DA is not generally going to file on " iffy" cases, but I'm not a lawyer.
     
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    Believe it or not, I can accept that. I always tried really hard to NOT say "My kid would never do that!"....but deep in our hearts, I'm pretty sure most people think that way.

    This is getting to be a bad habit, you and I agreeing on stuff. ;)
     
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    My husband and I don't usually discuss the DIS because he doesn't like social media of any kind....and doesn't necessarily like that I spend time on here or Facebook, or whatever....but because of our personal history, I wanted to share this thread with him, to get his thoughts. And he agrees with you about the grandmother. Because of the time, money and effort involved in getting the girl and her family to the States to testify, etc, he says he wouldn't have taken it any further by the time they'd reached the Bahamas, either. But then, he also would have probably been hunting the creep down long before the rest of the crew found him. :cool:

    He also said that he won't believe for one second that the Captain was not aware of what was taking place on his vessel....maybe not in the first half hour, but once the search was started, we feel certain the Captain was notified.

    As American citizens, I think most of us would have seen to it, in one way or another, that it was taken care of before the ship left Port Canaveral, though. I can't help but think that someone, somewhere along the way, took advantage of the fact that this grandmother didn't understand the way things are supposed to work in our country.
     
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    its clear than a criminal investigation is not likely to be forthcoming, if there is some civil litigation, its unlikely we will ever see the terms of the settlement.

    But I'm not sure I like this " let's not jump to conclusions" theory. You can always say that you are only getting one side of the argument but if Disney refuses to talk about it, is that enough to give them a pass ? By not addressing it you diminish the legitimacy of those leviyng the charges because you can always fall back on " but that's just one side of the story", lets see what Disney says but they are silent.

    Whether they did this initially, who knows but I am convinced that if this story does get legs, Disney will do everything in their power to squash it and what actually happened ( in order to evaluate culpability) will likely never be released. Disney protects their reputation, the family gets something ( but something less than justice) and the issue of potential illegality is never resolved.
     
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    :rotfl::rotfl:

    :flower3::flower3::flower3::flower3:
     
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    :rolleyes1:rolleyes1
     
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    In the United States, the victim of a sexual assault (molestation) is not the one who presses charges. The State presses charges.

    Any evidence would go before the Grand Jury, and then the Grand Jury makes the decision whether their is sufficient evidence to go to trial.
     
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    the problem is with people who can't accept the fact its their kids who did it, despite the evidence at hand, and continually blame everyone else or look for excuses...sound familiar (by no means directed at you)??
     
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    That depends on the state - as it would be prosecuted by the state and not the federal government. In general each state establishes its own criminal code.
     
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    True. This is how it works here in Arizona....from our own personal experience, anyway, and from my husband serving on the Grand Jury twice.
    I was thinking that the other states must be at least somewhat similar.
    :confused3
     
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    True. ::yes::


    Wow.....I must be in a really good (rare) mood today. I'm agreeing with everyone. ;)

    I think when I'm being really good :angel:, the Mods should give me Plus Points, so that the next time I get "in trouble", I have a surplus to work from.
    ::yes::::yes::::yes::
     
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    :lmao: Don't feel bad about getting in trouble...The Mods know me really well!::yes::

    AKK
     
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    See....that's why I think we should get Plus Points!! Positive reinforcement goes a long way. :goodvibes
     
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    And without the victim's testimony and no witnesses, the only evidence they have is a nebulas video. All you'd have is what some CM thought he heard and remembered the child say. There is not a grand jury in the country that would indict the guy in this case w/o any witnessess and no victim's testimony.
     
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    It's happening again...:faint:.......I agree with you.

    My husband is going to want to know your secret in getting me to agree......:laughing:
     
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    :rotfl2::thumbsup2
     
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