OFFICIAL Disney Cake Chatter Thread - Part III

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  1. Kara315

    Kara315 Mouseketeer

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    That's a good idea, Thank you!
     
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  3. Angel Ariel

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    Droopy is OK, I just wouldn't want it to completely melt (it will be buttercream, most likely). Our dinner reservation is for 4:45pm, so we probably wouldn't be leaving the restaurant until around 6, so hopefully in March it'll be cool-ish by then? Would the restaurant be able to give us a box for the leftovers?

    The locker is a great idea, thanks!
     
  4. RunningWithScissors

    RunningWithScissors Wife, Mom, Alabama Football GradFan

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    First post after spending 2 days perusing the cake threads and here is my question: Whose cakes are better? The ones from the Contemporary or the ones from Yacht & Beach Club? The reason I ask is because I can do either--we can do the birthday party in the room at BLT that morning before heading out or do it at the birthday dinner at Le Cellier that night.

    My son turns 10 and he wants a Test Track theme or Rock n' Roller Coaster theme. I'm thinking Mad hatter shape--there is a Cars themed cake somewhere in these threads that is similar to what I want. $100-150 is what I want to spend.

    Any help and/or suggestions will be greatly appreciated! :)
     
  5. lurkyloo

    lurkyloo The Attic was just perfect!

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    In that situation I'd chose the Contemporary just because it's easier to work with them — you can email the pastry chef directly with your ideas and photos, whereas the Y&BC usually makes you go through a middle (wo)man. Plus, then the leftover cake will already be in your room; you won't have to tote it around the park.
     
  6. RunningWithScissors

    RunningWithScissors Wife, Mom, Alabama Football GradFan

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    That was kind of what I was thinking. I am not a huge fan of bday cake for breakfast, haha, but we don't have to eat it then--we can do that when we get back after dinner. I think my son would love a surprise bday party when he wakes up! We always travel with my sister and her family so with 9 people there, it will be fun!

    Thanks for this fantastic thread with more information than anyone could imagine!
     
  7. danceintherain

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    So...since I'm sick, and it is super cold and snowy outside anyways, I've spent the last few days trying to dissect the Disney Cake pricing structure. I noticed that certain price points came up over and over again, especially within a specific bakery.

    It's mostly me guessing, but it has, at least, given me a better idea of what I should expect. In fact, it showed me that the pricing structure seems to be fairly consistent; it's just a matter of the creativity of the various pastry chefs, which accounts for the variances. I spent the most time analyzing 6-inch cakes, because that's what I'm interested ordering for myself. That structure seems to apply to 8-inch cakes as well, but 10-inch cakes seem to be the most variable. However, people seem to get the most creativity once they reach the 10-inch size.
    First of all, each place seems to have a particular depth (# of layers) of cake that they prefer, and their pricing reflects that.
    Grand Floridian: 2-layer 6-inch cakes = $21
    2-layer 8-inch cakes = $37 (ish)
    Contemporary: 3-layer 6-inch cakes - $30
    3-layer 8-inch = $40

    Epcot area resorts: I didnt have many 6-inch cakes to go from here, which I think explains why the cakes that come from this area seem to cost more than anywhere else. 8-inch cakes have anywhere from 2 to 4 layers. In general, I dont have enough cakes from this area to pull from to really determine rules.
    I didnt attempt Animal Kingdom at all.

    Then for decorations:
    - Basic customization cost = $25. Its seems fairly consistent that youre going to pay at least $25 to customize a cake at all. This includes some gum paste/sugar flowers and a 2D edible image. It seems this is where the creativity of the chef comes in. I expect there are probably specific prices for certain things, but nothing was obvious, so I just rolled them together, since almost every cake I saw had these additions at various levels of extravagance.
    - Fondant = $15  This amount gets higher the more fondant you need. Most 6-inch cakes only require $15 worth, but some require more. A 10-inch cake seems to always require AT LEAST $30 worth of fondant, but an 8-inch cake can go either way.
    - Fillings and Cake Flavors = $5/option  The people on this thread seem to play the most with the fillings, but it seems that alternative cake could bring about extra fees as well. If you go with any combination of White or Chocolate cake with White or Chocolate butter cream, then you shouldnt end up paying extra. If you throw in chocolate mousse instead, youll end up with a $5 charge.
    - Molded accessories = $35+ - It really depends on what you get here. The standard white chocolate characters have their own price point, while other things such as skulls and Mickey ears vary more. I think you can reasonably expect to pay AT LEAST $35 for any molded items on your cake that arent fondant or simple gum paste. I think this is the main reason why 10-inch cakes are harder to pinpoint; they all seem to have little extras like this.

    Here are a few examples (I hope nobody minds if I repost their cakes):

    The Grand Floridian has at least 3 cakes listed on this thread at exactly the same price point ($66) so thats where I started. I wanted to figure out the likelihood of being able to keep a cake under $80, if I ordered it from there.

    Grand Floridian  Brave Theme  2-layer 6-inch  Fondant & Edible Image  Strawberries & Cream Filling
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    Base Cost = $21
    Base Customize (Flowers & Edible Image) = $25
    Filling = $5
    Fondant = $15
    Total Cost = $66

    Grand Floridian  Ariel Theme  3-layer 6-inch  Fondant & Edible Image  Strawberries & White Chocolate Mousse Filling
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    Base Cost = $30
    Base Customize = $25
    Fondant = $15
    Filling = $5
    Total Cost = $75 (The OP reported a cost of $80, so maybe the molded coral cost more, or the GF could charge a little more than the Contemporary for the extra cake layer. Its still a fairly close estimate)

    Grand Floridian  Frog Prince Theme  3-layer 6-inch  Fondant & Molded Frog  Amaretto Mousse Filling
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    Base Cost = $30
    Base Customize = $25
    Fondant = $30
    Filling = $5
    Molded Frog etc = $35
    Total Cost = $125

    (Speculation) The main problem with the Grand Floridian seems to be communication. From what Ive gleaned from the problems people have had, it seems that the pastry chef there has an artists complex (doesnt want to be told what to do with pictures etc) which is further complicated by the fact that you dont actually get to deal with him/her. Its basically a really bad game of telephone, because you not only have to explain to Pat, someone who may or may not have any artistic ability whatsoever, what you want, you also have to explain it in a way so she can explain it to the pastry chef. It seems to me that this ends up tying the hands of the pastry chef, because once he/she actually sits down to work on your cake their creativity is limited by the amount of money youre expecting to pay. Maybe Im completely off on this assumption, but thats how it seems from anecdotal evidence people have given, and the final results.
    Its also possible, that past the simple $66 cakes people seem to get a lot of, they may not want to spend too much time on cakes that are under $100. They also seem fond of fondant, which automatically adds $15 to the cost, and even more the more elaborate the cake gets.

    Contemporary Resort   Robin Hood Theme - 2-layer 6-inch Butter cream & Edible Image
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    Base Cost = $21
    Base Customize= $25
    Filling = $5 (the OP didnt post exactly what kind, but it was definitely chocolate and not vanilla, which was used for the rest of the cake)
    Total Cost = $51

    Contemporary Resort  Lady & the Tramp  3-layer 6-inch  Buttercream & Edible Image  Dark Chocolate Mousse Filling
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    Base Cost = $30
    Base Customize = $25
    Dark Chocolate Mousse Filling = $5
    Total Cost = $60

    Contemporary Resort  Mary Poppins  2-layer 6-inch  Fondant & Chocolate Carousel  White Chocolate & Strawberry Filling
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    Base Cost = $21
    Base Customize = $25
    Filling = $5
    Fondant = $30
    Carousel = $35
    Total Cost = $116 (the OP actually indicated that the cake cost $115, so there is a little variance, but not a lot!)

    The pastry chef at the Contemporary resort definitely seems more open to suggestion, which helps pin point the exact cost of more elaborate cakes from the beginning. I think that accounts for the cost discrepancy more so than actual tangible differences from resort to resort.

    The Epcot area resort cakes stray vastly from the structure Ive deduced. I think that instead of doing their cakes on a cake to cake basis, their custom cake pricing seems to start where the price sheet on this thread suggests: $75 for an 8 or 10-inch cake. They also seem to use cakes with more layers which bump the price up too. There arent many examples of when theyve customized a 6-inch cake, and they seem to charge for everything separately (ie. Each edible image = $15).
    (I do have a few examples, but both photobucket and the search function on the DIS stopped working, so I've decided to give up my endeavor for the time being)

    Im still not sure what this means for me. I can probably get the cake I want from the Grand Floridian, but theres definitely a communication risk. I think my budget should be suitable for what I want, but theres no really good precedent. I want more gum paste/sugar flowers, in addition to or instead of fondant.

    I just thought I'd share in case it can help someone else!
     
  8. Claire&TheBoys

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    Just back from my girls' weekend trip to celebrate my sister's 50th birthday! We had dinner at Whispering Canyon last night with the cake from Chef Brian delivered at dessert time. I had told him I wanted something "fun and happy" and since we had just walked the Princess Half Marathon yesterday morning, I wanted it to have Mickey running. His email proposal was for a cake with green fondant, a road around the bottom and across the top, with a 2D image of Mickey running. This is how it turned out:

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    It was an 8" cake, 3 layers, chocolate, with peanut butter mousse filling. The cost was $87. It was delicious - my sister loved it! She was very surprised and pleased. The cake was moist and she loved the mousse filling. There was chocolate buttercream under the fondant.

    As a side note, we were a group of 8 and had more than half the cake left over to bring home today.

    As for the payment, I told the server specifically (and had mentioned when I ordered the cake) that the bill for the cake was to be separate from the dinner check and that was not a problem. However, with a party of 8, the auto-gratuity was charged on the cake, which I didn't particularly agree with since it's not like the server had anything to do except bring out the cake, light a candle and lead the restaurant in singing Happy Birthday. However, my best friend has a Tables in Wonderland card that she had used for the entire check and the server got the manager to allow him to apply the TIW discount to the cost of the cake, so it pretty much negated the 18% gratuity and I didn't fuss.

    I was very pleased with the experience of ordering a cake from the CR and would definitely do it again!
     
  9. Angel Ariel

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    OK..so the detailed PP made me wonder - how welcoming is the Contemporary to suggested designs?

    My parents' 40th wedding anniversary is this year, and I'd like to surprise them with a cake that is reminiscent of their wedding. I can't replicate any tier of the cake because none of the pictures I have access to have a good enough picture of the cake to do so. I have 3 photographs from their wedding that I used as inspiration to come up with the following design (done in word, as I have no drawing skills whatsoever)

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    The ribbon is inspired by the flower girl's dress, the scrollwork and roses from their cake (you can't tell what the actual design is, but you can tell there's something there..so this is pretty much up to the chef), and then daisies from mom's bouquet.

    I plan on contacting the Contemporary tomorrow, as our trip is in 2 weeks (our MK reservation is about 2.5 weeks out), and I was thinking this might help convey to them what I'm talking about (along with maybe e-mailing them the 3 photographs that I have for inspiration)? It certainly doesn't have to be exactly this design, but I'd love for it to somehow echo their wedding. Should I just e-mail them the inspiration photos and let them come up with something? Would they e-mail me a design or something first?

    I'm sorry for all the questions..I've never done this before!
     
  10. lurkyloo

    lurkyloo The Attic was just perfect!

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    Very! :thumbsup2

    If you want the cake to look exactly like your design, they will make it look exactly like it. If you want a more loose interpretation, they can do that too. I've never had them send me back a design, though—not sure that's something they offer. But I've had no problem getting something that looks like I want it to when I send them a photo first.
     
  11. wurtie

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    Can someone tell me what the cake/pastry thing under the chocolate slipper dessert at CRT tastes like?
     
  12. Cinderella909

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    Hope you are feeling better soon! And, what a lovely surprise to see our cake again! Wanted to let you know, that while it was a small cake, the cake was at least 3 layers with the bavarian cream and strawberry filling. Guess I didn't take a photo of the inside. I have always spent around 55.00 for our six inch cakes (all white cakes with the bavarian cream and strawberry filling). I really didn't expect to have fondant, but imagine that is why is was a little more.


    Thanks for bringing back the fond memories! Karen
     
  13. danceintherain

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    It was definitely a lovely cake. We're only going to have 4 people with us, so a 6-inch is exactly the size I think we need no matter the layers. I can't remember if I actually saw the inside of your cake or not? It could have been that I misconstrued it as 2-layers?
    Oh well...it definitely helped me determine that my budget should be sufficient! It's hard to look at a picture of a $66 cake and another of a $125 cake and understand what the difference is, even if you have other info about it.

    I got the sickness my Mom had while we were visiting last weekend. Her doctor told her that at least the throat part could linger for 2-3 months! I'm really hoping it doesn't, because I'm really considering auditioning for the American Idol Experience this year!
     
  14. Jmacsmom

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    Hi! I've been lurking on here for a bit and now I have a question on custom cakes. I'm hopeful that one of you veterans can help me.

    I called the WDW # to order, or at least discuss, a custom cake for my son's birthday. We'll be in WDW in mid-July so I know I have plenty of time to get the design and cake detials finalized. Well, I spoke with a CM 7 days ago and emailed him a picture of the cake I have in mind. He emailed me 3 days later saying that he believes that the chef could probably create the cake and then asked the date of my ADR. I responded with the info and haven't heard back. I don't want to pester this person, I'm sure they're busy. But how long should I wait before I drop him a line. asking for an update?


    Adding the following to my question:

    I was directed to speak with someone at the Yachtsman or the yacht and beach club but after reading through the messages here it seems like Chef Brian at the Contemporary is the choice bajer. Is it possible to work directly with him even though the cake owuld be for a dinner at the Yachtsman?

    TIA
     
  15. lurkyloo

    lurkyloo The Attic was just perfect!

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    I'd maybe give it a week? You have so much time that your message may be lower on their priority list right now.


    Not unless you went to the Contemporary to pick up the cake and then brought it with you to dinner. The Contemporary does not supply cakes for Yacht & Beach Club restaurants because that resort has its own pastry team. They are quite competent, they just seem to charge more than the Contemporary...
     
  16. Jmacsmom

    Jmacsmom Earning My Ears

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    Thank you very much for taking the time to respond. I'll give the gentleman a week or so until I ping him. I understand not being a priority but I also want to make sure I don't get lost in the shuffle.

    And again, thanks for clarifying on the availability of working with the contemporary. I'll stick with the Yachtsman and hope for the best.
     
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    I tried to order a "standard" 8-inch confetti cake (Shown on LurkyLoo's standard cake page) through the cake hotline. It was for the Grand Floridian. 30-minutes later ... the person at GF said I had to go through Pat because confetti sprinkles is a custom addition! :confused3

    I left a message but I don't want a custom cake. They tried to tell me I could only get a podium cake, but I knew I wanted an 8-inch with my daughters' names on it.

    Is Disney no longer offering standard cakes to order?
     
  18. lurkyloo

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    I think the trouble here is that not every resort and park is going to make its standard cakes to look exactly like those promo pictures Disney released. The CM wanted to be sure that, if you have your heart set on the cake looking exactly like the photo, you are able to "customize" it that way. Ordering a cake like that through Pat shouldn't cost you anymore than if the CM had just taken your order for a standard 8-inch cake, and that way you'll be able to specify what you want it to look like.
     
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    The confetti design is a standard option for the magic kingdom park. Those pictures are for magic kingdom offerings only to make it easier for guests to order their cake via email.
     
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    I love this thread! So, I finally ordered DS's cake for Chef Mickey's. I went back and forth 1,000 times on what I wanted, but in the end decided I didn't need to spend so much to make DS happy. So, I ordered an 8" cake with an image of Wreck-it-Ralph on it. It's vanilla on vanilla. So, the CM was sooo nice and told me that I didn't have to do anything else at this point and that they would bring the cake out right when we are done eating and surprise DS. But, I'm wondering...should I remind them when DS isn't listening? Or can I really trust that they will remember?

    Also, this is a much bigger cake than I wanted so will they have a box or something for me to take the rest of the cake? Thanks for any help!!!!
     
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    With all the talk about the Yacht Club bakery vs. the Contemporary bakery I'd thought I'd post pictures of cake I had delivered to Le Cellier on Saturday, Feb. 23, 2013 for my nieces birthday celebration. It was VERY easy to order, explained what I was looking for to the person on the telephone (one side with the Snow White dress, and the other with Belle, flowers on the top and a chocolate plaque with "Happy Birthday XXX" on each side facing the appropriate dress), emailed the inspiration picture (thanks for uploading it!! Sorry I can't recall the user name), and then called back to provide my credit card once they confirmed price. The cake, almond with white chocolate/fresh strawberries was incredible! So moist and delicious - my nieces took the remaining cake home on the plane wiht them. I have ordered previously from the Contemporary and while Chef Brian does an great job... the Yacht Club did just as good if not better - a definate :thumbsup2 I would not hesistate to order here again or to recommend ordering from the Yacht Club!

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