I feel like we've met before...are you reincarnated?
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I feel like we've met before...are you reincarnated?
Yeah-- the only park I would want more than three would be MK. Epcot has two headliners, HS has 3, and AK has 3. So Mk is done in two days. I don't believe anyone will ever need a FPP for figment. or MS, or (insert attraction here).
FP+ is IMO going to meld fp- with EMH to create the new perk for all and perk for staying on site. Really who would ever chose a fp for the rides we know have no lines? they need to force people to chose them.
you can have 5 fp+, but 3 of them are for hall of presidents, country bears, and the liberty belle.
One headliner, and one level 2.
Book at allstars, and you can have 2 at level 2.
Book at CBR, you get 2 headliners, one level 2, and 2 bottom feeders.
Book deluxe... and club level...
I just wonder where DVC will fall........
I have already set up our FP+ for our November trip. So far, they seem unchanged, but I wonder if I should be concerned about this? Has anyone with Nov FP+ for both Soarin and TT been affected?
this is the beginning of class warfare. Next they give more fast pass selections for headliner attractions fr deluxe resort guest. Penalizing people who are not millionaires but still love their kids just as much or more & want to give them a magical experience
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That is exactly what some on this board hope happen. Maybe WDW wants to turn into a playground for the rich
I tend to fear the same thing...and in someways it's always been this way.
What if the drunken suits now feel like it has to be six
Figures at the barest of minimums to have earned "the privilege"?
But those that see "no problem" with this tact...and even outwardly support it...are standing on the tracks in front of the train in 99% of the cases. They will get steamrolled too.
Kinda like when the old man votes for political candidates who are financed by the type of guys who closed down the business he worked in to ship it somewhere else... And now his kids and grand kids live in a collapsing town with no livelihoods or hope...
And yet he still pulls the lever. It's like Stockholm Syndrome. Obey your oppressor.
I never said that disney parks should be affordable to everyone...that was never the plan. But to be tailored to only those without a care in the world is missing the map entirely as well.
If I want to go to a place with a bunch of pampered clowns spending phoney earnings...I'll go to Dubai
We tested FastPass+ all the way back in December 2012 at MK and Hollywood Studios. During that test the tiers were utilized and frankly I'm surprised they were ever eliminated during later testing.
If you look at average attendance, there just isn't enough attraction capacity for everyone entering the park to ride every headliner. Epcot's 11 mil annual attendance averages about 30,000 per day. In a 12-hour operating day, Soarin can only accommodate half of the people entering the park with capacity of about 1300-1500 guests per hour.
Of course, not everyone wishes to ride every headliner. We've entered parks before just to wander, just to shop, just to dine. Even when we go to Epcot, we don't feel compelled to ride Test Track or Soarin every single time. But the thing that's impossible to quantify is exactly how many people fall into this "no plans to ride" group.
But then you have to look beyond averages and realize there are days when Epcot will draw 50,000...with less than 1/3 able to ride Soarin.
Disney doesn't want FP+ pre-booked weeks in advance. They need to be able to market a system where people entering the park day-of will still find ride times available. The only realistic way to do that is to make each guest choose between a reservation for Soarin OR Test Track OR fireworks viewing OR some similar experience.
Same is true at Hollywood Studios. Toy Story Mania and Rock n Rollercoaster cannot accommodate every guest. They'll have to force people to choose.
I always though the most equitable way of implementing FP+ would be to allow a certain number of pre-booked ride reservations and then allow for additional selections upon park entry.
Or they could turn it into a pay-for-play option so that only a fraction of theme park guests can pre-book. Giving some benefits to Disney hotel guests and pass holders for free, with others coming at a cost is one logical approach.
I tend to fear the same thing...and in someways it's always been this way.
What if the drunken suits now feel like it has to be six
Figures at the barest of minimums to have earned "the privilege"?
But those that see "no problem" with this tact...and even outwardly support it...are standing on the tracks in front of the train in 99% of the cases. They will get steamrolled too.
Kinda like when the old man votes for political candidates who are financed by the type of guys who closed down the business he worked in to ship it somewhere else... And now his kids and grand kids live in a collapsing town with no livelihoods or hope...
And yet he still pulls the lever. It's like Stockholm Syndrome. Obey your oppressor.
I never said that disney parks should be affordable to everyone...that was never the plan. But to be tailored to only those without a care in the world is missing the map entirely as well.
If I want to go to a place with a bunch of pampered clowns spending phoney earnings...I'll go to Dubai
We went down and tested Magic Bands and FP+ Nov. 2-4. Hit DHS, MK, then Epcot. We were able to book all top-tier attractions with our 3 FP+ selections per day. No tiering at all for our test phase. Did TSMM, RnRC, ToT at DHS, All 3 mountains on FP+ at MK and Soarin', TT and MS at Epcot. We are DVC and bought annual passes with the DVC discount. Associating tickets, room keys, etc. to the magic bands (presumably because all were booked/bought separately) was ridiculously painful. Thank goodness we had patience. We bought the APs last year when DVC had a crazy good deal on them and were using a voucher code. That confused the heck out of will call to redeem our AP's and put them on the MB. Then they tied the wrong APs to the magic bands. Their solution was to cross out our names and re-write names with a sharpie associating the cards to the right person... Then we had to visit the front desk 2x to get my wife and youngest son's magic bands to open the door to our room.
All in all, I think the system has potential, but there are so many kinks it is most definitely not ready for prime-time. Not to mention the FP lines for the bigger attractions (in all parks) were ridiculously long just to scan your magic band and get in line. The line for BTMRR extended to the briar patch shop. No joke.... And the FP line to Soarin' took 20 minutes from the time we entered the queue until we were lined up to watch the boarding video. Ouch.
I can honestly see tiering of rides and distribution of FP+ based on resort level becoming a reality. The entitled class aren't going to be willing to spend that kind of money and get hosed on park experience. Disney doesn't want to see that money walk... Just one of my opinions on this whole thing. I have a lot more opinions, but I think one we can agree on is that if WDW had more "Top Tier" attractions in every park the system would work better. It's a shame they didn't take some of that $1 billion for this system and put it towards rides/experiences....