englishrose47
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Universal does give Resort guests express pass , others can purchase them. While Universal is NOT as busy as Disney , that system works .
Since all November resort reservations just opened up it seems likely for full rollout now.
Really?
I've heard that the rollout is likely to be suspended over Christmas/New Year, with full rollout for resort and off-site guests from early 2014
englishrose47 said:Universal does give Resort guests express pass , others can purchase them. While Universal is NOT as busy as Disney , that system works .
ParrotBill said:Since all November resort reservations just opened up it seems likely for full rollout now.
Universal: but have you priced express pass for non resort guests? Very expensive add on. That's why it works - much more limited use than FastPass.
This.I've been going to Universal since it opened, and don't recall them ever having a free Express Pass system for everyone. I thought you always had to stay at a Universal hotel to get them for free, or you had to pay the big bucks to get them.
Honestly, I don't see why Disney WOULDN'T give on-site visitors a leg up over off-site. I mean, people staying on-site ARE paying more. So why shouldn't they get better privileges?
Universal does give Resort guests express pass , others can purchase them. While Universal is NOT as busy as Disney , that system works .
Because most Disney park visitors stay offsite and those that stay onsite aren't always paying more, especially if they only visit Disney World once every few years, stay at a value resort and got their park tickets from somewhere else with a discount compared to an AP holder or FL resident who doesn't always stay at a Disney hotel but visits and spends money in the parks multiple times a year.
Because most Disney park visitors stay offsite and those that stay onsite aren't always paying more, especially if they only visit Disney World once every few years, stay at a value resort and got their park tickets from somewhere else with a discount compared to an AP holder or FL resident who doesn't always stay at a Disney hotel but visits and spends money in the parks multiple times a year.
This.I've been going to Universal since it opened, and don't recall them ever having a free Express Pass system for everyone. I thought you always had to stay at a Universal hotel to get them for free, or you had to pay the big bucks to get them.
Since all November resort reservations just opened up it seems likely for full rollout now.
Universal: but have you priced express pass for non resort guests? Very expensive add on. That's why it works - much more limited use than FastPass.
as a local, we were just there this past weekend and I have to say that I was appalled at the way the new magic bands were being treated. By the time DHS was even OPENED the FIRST thing we did was go to Pixar to get FP for the Toy tory Mania ride....and the times were ALREADY between 3:30 and 4:30...at 9am! I planned on writing a letter to corporate but I feel it will fall on deaf ears. I was talking to a guy in the line to get in, and he was also an annual pass holder that was a local and he said this was the last time he was going...his passes expire at the end of the month and he was OVER it too. So sad!
That stinks. They must have dialed back the paper machines a lot to make room for all of the FP+.
That does suck...and unfortunately was exactly what I was expecting.
The local market is gonna be one of the biggest losers with the new the new "intellipark" system. Disney is going to try to pressure them to fall in line with tourists from Texas and Ontario...
They don't behave the same way nor should they have to if you're taking into account the business history...fast pass+ makes no sense if you live in St. Cloud or Dr Phillips.
The other loser will be employees...which of course intersect with the local market.
And this is what worries me the most. We often stay onsite and could do so again but we can't on every trip and frankly don't want to anyway. Many people can't stay onsite for a variety of reasons but that aside I bet that Disney gets even more traffic from offsite visitors than onsite and these people buy OOP meals and souvenirs and passes. They can't spend money if they're standing in endless lines waiting to ride TSM or Splash Mountain.Yep. I agree.
If this all shakes out the way it seems to be, the other losers in this scenario are going to be people who travel to Orlando, even from faraway places, but stay offsite. They'll be in the same predicament as the local market you describe.