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I'm sorry but even a quadriplegic is more capable than a 9 month old. How is that not good enough to use a handicap stall? Why are some handicaps "better" than others?
Is being 9 months old considered a handicap?
I'm sorry but even a quadriplegic is more capable than a 9 month old. How is that not good enough to use a handicap stall? Why are some handicaps "better" than others?
What about those of us with children too small to walk. When I am alone with DD (9 months) I have to take her stroller in if I want to go to the bathroom. What else could I do with her?
I have to say. I hate when the changing area is in a handicapped stall. I feel dumb going in there just to change her and am afraid someone who needs it will walk up.
Is being 9 months old considered a handicap?
Is not being able to:
Walk
Use your arms effectively
talk
understand all but the most basic language
control your bladder/bowels
NOT considered a handicap?
ETA: Julie reported on the show that all of the Disney theme parks have well equipped Child Care Center specifically designed to fit the needs of children from infancy on.
I would assume most 9 month olds are not alone in the park.
I would also assume most 9 month olds would not feel the indignity of not being able to maneuver into a stall, because of a necessary device.
I would assume most 9 month olds would have someone able to transport them, speak for them, make decisions for them and be wearing a diaper. This would negate the need for any handicapped accessibility.
9 month olds are not considered handicapped.
I realize I mis-spoke on the show out of frustration, but the argument that a 9 month old should be considered handicapped doesn't hold water.
There need to be more accessible, family restrooms and then this wouldnt be an issue....even for a 9 month old.
ETA: Julie reported on the show that all of the Disney theme parks have well equipped Child Care Center specifically designed to fit the needs of children from infancy on.
Wow. Just wow. My father was a quadriplegic. There is absolutely no comparison of someone with a disability with a 9-month old infant. The use of a handicapped restroom by someone with a 9-month old is a convenience. The use of a handicapped restroom by someone with a disability is a necessity.I'm sorry but even a quadriplegic is more capable than a 9 month old. How is that not good enough to use a handicap stall? Why are some handicaps "better" than others?
Wow. Just wow. My father was a quadriplegic. There is absolutely no comparison of someone with a disability with a 9-month old infant. The use of a handicapped restroom by someone with a 9-month old is a convenience. The use of a handicapped restroom by someone with a disability is a necessity.
All said by someone who's never had kids and therefore assumes what he knows about the situation. Instead of just accepting that other people have problems and difficulties in life you just move yours and the ones you know to the top of the list.
Of course a nine month old is handicapped. If someone that's not handicapped is with someone that is handicapped, they're still considered handicapped.
It's the argument that someone in a wheelchair can't wait 5 minutes to use a restroom when others must wait 20 minutes or more that doesn't hold water. Why can't they just wait?
If there was on handicapped restroom in the middle of the park, there would be a huge uproar about the lack of handicapped restrooms.
I understand you misspoke at first, but the more you argue this the more you're making it seem like you want your problems (again, the ones you know) to take priority over everyone else's.
All said by someone who's never had kids and therefore assumes what he knows about the situation. Instead of just accepting that other people have problems and difficulties in life you just move yours and the ones you know to the top of the list.
Of course a nine month old is handicapped. If someone that's not handicapped is with someone that is handicapped, they're still considered handicapped.
It's the argument that someone in a wheelchair can't wait 5 minutes to use a restroom when others must wait 20 minutes or more that doesn't hold water. Why can't they just wait?
If there was on handicapped restroom in the middle of the park, there would be a huge uproar about the lack of handicapped restrooms.
I understand you misspoke at first, but the more you argue this the more you're making it seem like you want your problems (again, the ones you know) to take priority over everyone else's.
Your comments are very offensive. Infancy is a stage of life, not a disability.
The day may come when you are using a wheelchair, and then all your questions will be answered.
Your comments are very offensive. Infancy is a stage of life, not a disability.
The day may come when you are using a wheelchair, and then all your questions will be answered.
You are correct. I have no children of my own, but I was entrusted with 20 - 30 5 year olds each year for ten years. I've dealt with my share of emergency bathroom runs. Not one of them ever used a handicapped accessible bathroom.
I hope this fits your criteria of having experience with dealing with children.
As far as moving a person needing an accessible bathroom ahead of someone for whom it's a convenience....yes, I believe that should be the case.
I have also come to find your argument about a 9 month old being handicapped to be distasteful.
I truly hope you never find yourself or a loved one in the position of trying to maneuver a wheelchair into a too small space because a 9 month old wearing a diaper has a parent that feels that because of their child's age, that they are handicapped.
As far as understanding someone else's problems, try to understand the frustration of someone that has traveled across the park to the one and only bathroom for quite a while that will accommodate a wheelchair or ECV, only to find that a mother and her perfectly able 3 year old are using it because "it's easier".
Wow. Just wow. My father was a quadriplegic. There is absolutely no comparison of someone with a disability with a 9-month old infant. The use of a handicapped restroom by someone with a 9-month old is a convenience. The use of a handicapped restroom by someone with a disability is a necessity.
The fact that you would even equate raising a five year old to a nine month old actually proves that you don't have the experience. They are light years apart.
You still haven't provided one reason why you can't wait five minutes. I honestly cannot comprehend your argument. You were slightly inconvenienced because it is NOT POSSIBLE (there is often no other changing table to change the child anywhere else) for me to use a different stall. Now I, and any other parent, am offensive for using the handicap stall?
This argument is beyond ludicrous. Again, why is one handicap "better" than another? I am suggesting that two parties have different but valid reasons to use needed equipment. You are suggesting that your problems trump everyone else and that certain groups should never use your facilities no matter the situation. Do you see how one suggestion is FAR more reasonable than the other? If not than your emotions are clouding your judgement.
The fact that you would even equate raising a five year old to a nine month old actually proves that you don't have the experience. They are light years apart.
You still haven't provided one reason why you can't wait five minutes. I honestly cannot comprehend your argument. You were slightly inconvenienced because it is NOT POSSIBLE (there is often no other changing table to change the child anywhere else) for me to use a different stall. Now I, and any other parent, am offensive for using the handicap stall?
This argument is beyond ludicrous. Again, why is one handicap "better" than another? I am suggesting that two parties have different but valid reasons to use needed equipment. You are suggesting that your problems trump everyone else and that certain groups should never use your facilities no matter the situation. Do you see how one suggestion is FAR more reasonable than the other? If not than your emotions are clouding your judgement.
Personally, I have no problem with a parent with a baby using the wheelchair stall or family restroom, as needed. I also have no problem waiting for a child to use the wheelchair stall if all the regular stalls are occupied. I also have no problem waiting my turn in a crowded restroom.
My main frustration with restrooms is an able-bodied adult with no children uses the wheelchair stall when all the regular stalls are empty.
If a regular stall is unoccupied/available, and a person is capable of using the unoccupied regular stall.....Please leave the wheelchair stall available for people who really need it.