Are You A Recliner??

I really had no idea people didn't like me to recline my own seat. I can't tell you I notice of the guy in front of me does or not but it's his seat, I would expect he would get comfy.

One trip, just as we landed my son (5) put his hand on the top of the seat in front. Right away, I told him not to but the lady in front actually swatted the top of the seat. Never said a word, just swung back.
I admit, I dislike when someone has to use my seat for leverage to get up but hitting at them was so odd.
 
I have reclined in the past but frankly, the recline isn't enough to be a noticeable difference to me. And I know it's possibly annoying the passenger behind me, so I just don't even bother anymore. In fact, sometimes I'll book the row ahead of the exit row - doesn't recline yet you don't run the risk of someone hitting or kicking your seat behind you. When someone reclines in front of me, I may roll my eyes to myself at first but I get used to it pretty quick.

Over the winter I took an AirTran flight before they were done and my seat was broken. During take-off, it slammed back into full recline and would not go upright for anything. Once the plane was "level", every time I shifted in the seat, it would recline even though I would pull it up. I kept apologizing to the guy behind me - what a pain for him and me!
 
I don't recline because I find it hard to get out of my seat when the person in front of me is fully reclined. It also makes it difficult to use the tray table. I dont want to do that to someone else. I don't mind a slight recline, but the full recline is invasive IMO.

When I flew with my kids as infants, I always bought them a seat and used their infant car seats rear facing (as recommended by all the safety agencies). When these are in place, the seat in front can not recline and I had a gentleman slam his seat into my 3 month olds car seat a few times before realizing he couldn't recline.
 
I absolutely do not recline. I don't care how uncomfortable I am, I am not going to encroach on the person's space behind me. The only time I've reclined is when I flew first class to Europe and sat in the last row, so I wasn't in anyone's space. But that's just me...
 
shoney said:
If the seats recline, then you have the right to use it.
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Great topic... thoughts...
  • agree with shoney's comment. If seats were not meant to recline... why build it in?
  • decades ago, the only time we were told to bring seats forward was for take off, landing, and when meals were served.
    • I was shocked on a flight a few years ago when a stewardess let the passenger in front of me keep the seat reclined for sleeping. While I was being served dinner. Is this proper?
  • I'm also seeing a trend where some selfish passengers demand that I keep my seat upright, but when I turn back, they have their seat reclined. Huh? When challenged, they tell me sob stories. Lies.
  • the worst situation was 4 years ago on a bus from Vegas to Grand Canyon South Rim. There was no space to keep my backpack on my lap with the front seat reclined. How can they make seats so tight for a 10 hour bus ride?
  • Yep, I think it's selfish to use knee defenders or various devices to stop the seat in front recline. Some will stick their legs against the seatback to prevent the seat in front from reclining.
 
I don't recline on short flights (MCO is only 2hrs. for us). On long flights, you bet I recline for a nap!
 
I only recline on flights of more than 5 hours, and only if the person in front of me has reclined.

Personally, I think that airlines should remove the recline option on seats with less than a 36" pitch... it causes more angst than comfort. They could switch to a faux recline, which would allow passengers to adjust their angle of seat throughout the flight (important for circulation), but it would not infringe on anyone's right to healthy kneecaps. I'm 6'3", and when the person in front of me reclines, it causes actual pain, not just mental pain. :(
 
xlxo said:
Some will stick their legs against the seatback to prevent the seat in front from reclining.
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Or they could just be that tall. On some carriers with poor legroom (American, United, etc), the length of my leg is actually longer than the seat pitch. I'm not trying to be mean, I just can't make my legs shorter.

I had a guest attack me on a United flight; I was able to move enough for him to get it back about an inch, but not all the way. When he couldn't recline his seat, he repeatedly bashed my knees with the back of his seat and yelled at me that I should purchase a different seat.
 
Plaid Princess said:
Or they could just be that tall. On some carriers with poor legroom (American, United, etc), the length of my leg is actually longer than the seat pitch. I'm not trying to be mean, I just can't make my legs shorter.

I had a guest attack me on a United flight; I was able to move enough for him to get it back about an inch, but not all the way. When he couldn't recline his seat, he repeatedly bashed my knees with the back of his seat and yelled at me that I should purchase a different seat.
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Dh is 6'7" with a 40 inch inseam. We often upgrade to more leg room but sometimes it's just not available. He once had to stand up and show a guy that there was just no way the seat would recline. We try to get seats so I or one of out girls is in front of him but it doesn't always work
 
Gracie09 said:
Dh is 6'7" with a 40 inch inseam. We often upgrade to more leg room but sometimes it's just not available. He once had to stand up and show a guy that there was just no way the seat would recline. We try to get seats so I or one of out girls is in front of him but it doesn't always work
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Yep, my Hubby is 6'8"... usually we'll cross our legs and put them under each others seats when we are travelling together. More than once I've given my seat up to someone taller than myself if my seat has more legroom. I get so frustrated when I see short people in the exit row. :headache:
 
Plaid Princess said:
Or they could just be that tall. On some carriers with poor legroom (American, United, etc), the length of my leg is actually longer than the seat pitch. I'm not trying to be mean, I just can't make my legs shorter.

I had a guest attack me on a United flight; I was able to move enough for him to get it back about an inch, but not all the way. When he couldn't recline his seat, he repeatedly bashed my knees with the back of his seat and yelled at me that I should purchase a different seat.
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United and American don't have less legroom than any other legacy carriers. In fact, both airlines have extra legroom seats (on UA, Economy Plus and on American, Main Cabin Extra) available; free for certain levels of FF and for a fee for others.
 
The issue is that the airlines are trying to cram in as many seats as possible. In the 'old' days, there were fewer rows of seats, so when the person in front of you reclined, it just wasn't a huge deal. Now, with so many rows, it's almost impossible to recline without impacting the person behind you. Yes, the seats are made to recline. BUT......they weren't meant to recline in such a small area! I have had a woman's hair drape over my tray...her hair slid off her seat and through the area between the seats, right onto my tray. Good thing I was done with my drink!!!
If I need more room, I pay for it. Do I recline? on occasion. If I'm traveling more than 4 hrs, then I will sometimes recline. If I am flying overseas, at night, yes, I recline. But so is everyone else. The playing field is now level!
 
I couldn't imagine not reclining overnight. It's one reason that I dread the thought of overseas travel.
 
My DH is also from tall and it never fails that someone comes crashing back into his knees. He also has had both knees operated on. I also try and get exit row seats if they are available. But then you run into the problem that the seats are not wide enough.pirate: It also never fails that the person sitting in front of us who does recline, usually sits forward and leaves the seat back.:mad:

When Allegiant began flying out of the Lehigh Valley, the planes were new and the seats did not recline. The airlines already have bad reps but they continue to cram more seats. They also charge more for leg room but in some cases, you cannot really tell a difference.
 
lost*in*cyberspace said:
United and American don't have less legroom than any other legacy carriers. In fact, both airlines have extra legroom seats (on UA, Economy Plus and on American, Main Cabin Extra) available; free for certain levels of FF and for a fee for others.
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Yep. Legacy carriers have universally crappy legroom. And I do try to get extra legroom when possible, but why should I be required to pay extra for a seat just because my legs are longer?
 
Plaid Princess said:
why should I be required to pay extra for a seat just because my legs are longer?
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Maybe the same reason "extra large" people are required to purchase two seats?

Or, if you don't like that argument, you're NOT required to pay extra for your seat. But we're talking YOUR comfort. I think the point is if you want comfort, pay for it, don't expect others to take care of you.
 
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