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Respectfully disagree Nikki. When I bought DVC I did so knowing that the only benefits I was entitled to are those stated in the sales documents. Basically, I was buying a room at WDW for the next 45 years. DVC does not have to offer us anything beyond that. They aren't penalizing us, they are just offering something extra that isn't quite as generous as before. Perhaps this is a glass half-full/half-empty kind of thing. Or maybe the glass is just the wrong size.
Just playing Devil's advocate here but... do you also feel bad for those who cant afford a Mercedes? I'm sure many people would love one, they see the commercials on tv.Now I totally understand it from a business stance (and admittedly don't know of a different way to fix it), I do think it's so sad to see the commercials for Disney knowing full well there are so many families that would just love to visit but are just simply priced out - the magic is too expensive.
Just playing Devil's advocate here but... do you also feel bad for those who cant afford a Mercedes? I'm sure many people would love one, they see the commercials on tv.
Or even overseas holidays? not many can afford it, but I don't feel bad for those who cant, that's just life isn't it?
Jes, I think the difference is that Disney is not marketed or perceived as a luxury product. If you ask the average guy on the street to name a luxury vacation destination, you're probably going to get answers like Paris or Rome or Fiji. I highly doubt anyone will say Disney World. At least here in the US, going to Disney is no more exclusive than going to the beach. This is a place where our high school kids go for their senior class trip, even from 1,000+ miles away. It's the quintessential American family vacation.Just playing Devil's advocate here but... do you also feel bad for those who cant afford a Mercedes? I'm sure many people would love one, they see the commercials on tv.
Or even overseas holidays? not many can afford it, but I don't feel bad for those who cant, that's just life isn't it?
I think there's some truth to that but not entirely. Certainly, MK is the most popular park, but the increased crowds are evident elsewhere too. Have you been following Food and Wine reports? Everything I've seen and read has specifically mentioned how crowded it is and how long the lines are. Dining reservations at the popular places get harder and harder to get. Lines are present even at attractions that used to be walk ons (this is partly due to FP+) like Great Movie Ride, for example.I don't think that WDW has a capacity problem, but MK has a capacity problem. I believe that a lot of the blame falls on Disney for not investing in infrastructure.
I agree, but I think it's only the first step in a process that we'll see in the coming months, including tiered pricing for regular tickets.I also don't think the new AP prices will have much of an effect on crowds.
FP+ didn't do anything to reduce crowds. In fact, it has made lines worse than ever by adding FP+ to rides and attractions that didn't previously have them.Isn't Fp+ supposed to take care of this as well?
FP+ didn't do anything to reduce crowds. In fact, it has made lines worse than ever by adding FP+ to rides and attractions that didn't previously have them.
I think this will be a very common response. People will be going less often or staying for a shorter time or doing fewer park days during their stay or choosing less costly accommodations or eating more meals offsite. Some combination of changes to keep the overall cost of the trip relatively stable.So while I'm not giving up on Disney or ranting about the changes (much), I am making adjustments to how I'll be travelling in the future.
... Interestingly, Pete alluded to the price hike as being a way to curb the crowds in Disneyland but didn't make the same mention regarding Disney World. I was hoping he would address that. I still believe that at least in part, they are trying to address the overcrowding issue.