ANYONE can sue for any reason.. THey have to "Prove" cause and effect.
Embel said:"Loss of enjoyment of life"
That's a thing??
A thing you can sue for?
Rodolfo was our steward on the Magic twice. He has a great attitude and personality -- simply outstanding.In ALL of our cruises, I think we've only had TWO hosts who really went above and beyond. Our beloved friend Rodolfo on Disney, and one on another line. . .
"Loss of enjoyment of life"
That's a thing??
A thing you can sue for?
I hope whoever it is that has filed the suite gets thrown out at the first hearing and charged for the courts time, and Carnivals for such a rediculous thing that one cannot quantify.
Heres a couple of things to help clarify some of the regulations regarding lifeboats SOLAS etc.
SOLAS is the name of the rules and regulations that govern all water borne craft from a certain size and weight on up. It basically spells out what the ships will be made of, carry, safety gear etc.
The Maritime Safety Committee, is one of the committees that regulates and writes the SOLAS requirements, based on past history and trends. Alot of times they will be proactive in their rules, though generally they are reactive. Examples would be ships can only carry a certain amount of combustible materials onboard, such as stairs, decking etc. This came about as a result of the Star Princess fire, where a fire in 1 cabins balcony, jumped horizontally as well as vertically on the outside of the ship, and entered the ship causing a lot of damage to the ship. Now, either the balconies have sprinklers installed (not in effect at the time of the fire) fire detection devices added or all combustible/Flammable materials removed and replaced with approved materials.
Lifeboats.
There are 3 different types of lifeboats.
The big orange/yellow(depends on the line as to color.Regs state that they are to be be of a high visibility color) ones that hang in davits over the promenade decks, life rafts which are stored in white containers that look like large pills, and inflate when they hit the water or just before launching, and rescue boats. On some ships, a rescue boat can be part of a lifeboat count.
All ships must carry enough aggregate capacity between the 3, to account for 150% of the ships total capacity per side. The total capacity of the lifeboats/rafts is roughly 300% of the ships total capacity.
The launching mechanisms are to be of either gravity/brake system or a stored power system(stored batteries that are charged at all times by the ship to independently power the davits)
Muster drill are now held prior to the ship leaving port.
Crew abandon ship drills are to be held every other week. If a crew member misses 1 drill, he/she is required to make the next one. This is to keep them participating at least 1x per month.
I don't know...anyone watching Channel 4 - Rock Center with Brian Williams? This ship has had problems before.
Also, as part of the law suits regarding Concordia (owned by Carnival) a judge authorized a seizure of another Carnival ship - the Triumph. US Marshals boarded it (they had video of that) and impounded it because it was not safe (so says the atty interviewed). They seized the ship, held it, Carnival had to pay $10 mil to get it back. It was out on bail.
To be fair, this is coming from the attorney representing Concordia passengers. Doesn't think anyone traveling on the Triumph new it had been seized and 'out on bail'.
Shall be interesting. I know we have some great detectives on here that will get all the facts out about all that.
More passengers stating how great the crew was! That makes me so happy everytime I hear a comment like that about the crew!
I don't know...anyone watching Channel 4 - Rock Center with Brian Williams? This ship has had problems before.
Also, as part of the law suits regarding Concordia (owned by Carnival) a judge authorized a seizure of another Carnival ship - the Triumph. US Marshals boarded it (they had video of that) and impounded it because it was not safe (so says the atty interviewed). They seized the ship, held it, Carnival had to pay $10 mil to get it back. It was out on bail.
To be fair, this is coming from the attorney representing Concordia passengers. Doesn't think anyone traveling on the Triumph new it had been seized and 'out on bail'.
Shall be interesting. I know we have some great detectives on here that will get all the facts out about all that.
More passengers stating how great the crew was! That makes me so happy everytime I hear a comment like that about the crew!
This morning, the Today Show reported that the Triumph was being brought in for repairs. Really? Would anybody in their right mind sail on the Triumph again?? I would imagine Carnival would have to at the very least rename the ship and overhaul it pretty darn good.
Most know I am far from a fan of Carnival Line or Carnival Inc., now with that said, my guess would be that the vessel will have a herd of inspectors, surveyors, examiners, investigation maritime people going though EVERYTHING onboard.
After all the refit, repairs, changes and reqiurements are done,she will likely be the safest vessel in Carnivals fleet it not the world!
Just saying.
AKK
PizzieDuster said:I don't know...anyone watching Channel 4 - Rock Center with Brian Williams? This ship has had problems before.
Also, as part of the law suits regarding Concordia (owned by Carnival) a judge authorized a seizure of another Carnival ship - the Triumph. US Marshals boarded it (they had video of that) and impounded it because it was not safe (so says the atty interviewed). They seized the ship, held it, Carnival had to pay $10 mil to get it back. It was out on bail.
To be fair, this is coming from the attorney representing Concordia passengers. Doesn't think anyone traveling on the Triumph new it had been seized and 'out on bail'.
Shall be interesting. I know we have some great detectives on here that will get all the facts out about all that.
More passengers stating how great the crew was! That makes me so happy everytime I hear a comment like that about the crew!
Possibly...but with the bad PR and juju associated with this incident, wouldn't it be prudent for them to at least rename the ship (and maybe give it a killer makeover)? Kind of like how airlines sometimes retire a flight number after a crash. I believe US Airways no longer uses 1549 (The Miracle on the Hudson flight).
While I have stated it is HIGHLY unlikely I would ever cruise at all (I'd love to, it's just a vacation plan with some variables like what happened here that I cannot risk...for now) if I were going to cruise it wouldn't be on the Triumph. For starters, no matter how well they cleaned it I'd be thinking about the raw sewage etc.
Just sayin'.
Tonka's Skipper said:Thanks for the update Truck. See I learned something new again.
Now there are 2 reasons to disagree with the newer cruise muster drill and lifeboats regs.
1. Lifevests should be worn to all drills.
2. Lifeboats should be able to operate without any power. To many things can go wrong with powered falls.
JMHO!
AKK
Possibly...but with the bad PR and juju associated with this incident, wouldn't it be prudent for them to at least rename the ship (and maybe give it a killer makeover)? Kind of like how airlines sometimes retire a flight number after a crash. I believe US Airways no longer uses 1549 (The Miracle on the Hudson flight).
While I have stated it is HIGHLY unlikely I would ever cruise at all (I'd love to, it's just a vacation plan with some variables like what happened here that I cannot risk...for now) if I were going to cruise it wouldn't be on the Triumph. For starters, no matter how well they cleaned it I'd be thinking about the raw sewage etc.
Just sayin'.