Progress of the Triumph

[truck1]

Yes but you think they could have those dedicated toilets for emergencies have backups so they worked. In the event of a total outage yes there might be no way to do this but if they have limited power then you could have backup generators to run the pumps. Even if you had to use water pumped in from the sea for this purpose it could be done.

I am happy that the ship is docked! This is great news and that no lives were lost. I had a baby on our last cruise who was 3 months old and this would have been a nightmare. We wouldn't have had enough formula. Hmmm gets me thinking for our next cruise we'll take some extra supplies just in case.

I wish Mobile, AL would stop pointing fingers about Carnival's decisions in this case. Yes I have trouble believing that Carnival is not looking out for their best interest but without knowing what is going on in Carnival Corps meetings who knows why they made the decisions they did. They did manage to get emergency things in place for getting people home. That is all that matters. Restitution is another matter that can be dealt with after everyone is home safe and sound.

Something is not quite right in my mind withe whole power issue on the ship. There's supposed to be a redundancy but so far I have yet to see evidence that its working. For example theres supposed to be 2 main distribution panels so if any 1 engine or panel goes down for whatever reason power is not interrupted from the other engines and panel. This would avoid what were seeing.

 

[Jubilee]

Something is not quite right in my mind withe whole power issue on the ship. There's supposed to be a redundancy but so far I have yet to see evidence that its working. For example theres supposed to be 2 main distribution panels so if any 1 engine or panel goes down for whatever reason power is not interrupted from the other engines and panel. This would avoid what were seeing.

I agree with this idea, however, admittedly don't know a thing about mechanics myself. All I can think is that it must have involved both of them, or presumably, the ship was already running with only 1.....

 

[Rogillio]

I have not heard anything so far. September is several months away. I know sailing through mid-April have been cancelled.

They'll need time to fully access the damages and schedule repairs, I would think, before letting any people with reservations that far out know anything. After all, it did just dock, and the cause needs to be investigated before any major repairs can begin.

Yeah, I can see that. I read the National Transportation Board is gonna do an investigation too...and that will take time being a government agency.

My thought was the fire must have been pretty bad to take out the power distrobution system such that even backup generators could not power the sweage pumps.

 

[Chuck S]

Yeah, I can see that. I read the National Transportation Board is gonna do an investigation too...and that will take time being a government agency.

My thought was the fire must have been pretty bad to take out the power distrobution system such that even backup generators could not power the sweage pumps.

Yes, and my traveling group are all from the San Antonio area, so we are all car pooling and driving about 3 hours to Galveston, no airlines tickets to change or worry with no matter if we sail or not.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Good morning to all!

Sorry I wasn't here last night I had my own little vessel issue on a bulker here up in Mass.

First and foremost, a moment of thanks to whatever faith you may follow that the vessel got in safe and sound.

Kudos to the vessels crew.I have not seen one report or comment that was not praised the actions and work of the crew to make the best of a bad situation.

Thanks to everyone who followed my request to keep this about the progress of the Triumph, and not a DCL Vs Carnival.

As to some posts.

!. Truck my friend, I thought all lifeboats had to have the ablity to be lowered/launched without needing power.....at least back, in my day and on the cargo vessels I mostly deal with now, that is the case........

2. Stacy, it was a good thing the extacy and the elation were handy, but that is not really a issue, any vessel in the area would come to the triumph or any other vessel to help and if needed to have food transfferred. As I remember, the Spendour had the USS Lincohn heloed food and supplies to her.

3. This keeps coming up about bringing another vessel alongside or using tenders/lifeboats...........sorry..NO!!!!!!!!!!!! it is not safe to try and jump/ step/ hop form one ship to another or into a tender in open water...Especialy people who are not exprienced/ elderly or disabaled . Its even a chancy thing for seamen who are expreinced in doing it.

Vessels move/shift randomly and do it unexpectantly..In fact the only people who I think would have the good safe chance would be the Kids.......they are all monkeys anyway..we all were back then!

4. The Concordia is still on her side, on the bottom. They don't expect to get her afloat for a number of months yet. The final decision has not been announced as yet, but the Las Vegas odds are strong she will be scrapped.

5. As to sailing out of Mobile vs New Orleans the big difference between the two would be a 2 hour ship channel trip in and out and a 12 hours river trip in and out of New Orleans.

AKK

 

[UmmGooD]

Yes, and my traveling group are all from the San Antonio area, so we are all car pooling and driving about 3 hours to Galveston, no airlines tickets to change or worry with no matter if we sail or not.

Chuck,

So if they do repair the ship you would sail or are you having second thoughts?

Oh and an off topic thing my in-laws live on the lake in Seguin near I-10 and 90.

 

[Chuck S]

Chuck,

So if they do repair the ship you would sail or are you having second thoughts?

Oh and an off topic thing my in-laws live on the lake in Seguin near I-10 and 90.

As far as I know, everyone in our group of 9 travelers is still planning to sail, if the ship is ready. I probably live across the river/lake from your parents. It sounds like they live in/near the Lake Placid subdivision, I live in Placid Heights.

 

[ilovetexas]

Tonka's Skipper,

Thanks for pointing out what should be obvious to everyone who has ever cruised....it is not SAFE to transfer people ship to ship in the open ocean. Anyone suggesting it has obviously never tried to get on a tender when the waves are a little rocky (and that's with a ship that is anchored!).

You have been offering very helpful information which, if people were reading, would be answering a lot of the questions/accusations being made.

It's an awful situation and I'm not sure how I'm feeling about Carnival right now. This afternoon, I'm going to try to put together a statistical comparison of # of ships at sea vs. number of fires. That's the only way I can justify (to myself) whether or not this is a problem. Until then, I'm just glad everyone is back on dry land!

 

[UmmGooD]

As far as I know, everyone in our group of 9 travelers is still planning to sail, if the ship is ready. I probably live across the river/lake from your parents. It sounds like they live in/near the Lake Placid subdivision, I live in Placid Heights.

It will definitely be interesting to see what Carnival does with the ship. My in-laws live in Pecan Cove.

 

[UmmGooD]

Tonka's Skipper,

Thanks for pointing out what should be obvious to everyone who has ever cruised....it is not SAFE to transfer people ship to ship in the open ocean. Anyone suggesting it has obviously never tried to get on a tender when the waves are a little rocky (and that's with a ship that is anchored!).

You have been offering very helpful information which, if people were reading, would be answering a lot of the questions/accusations being made.

It's an awful situation and I'm not sure how I'm feeling about Carnival right now. This afternoon, I'm going to try to put together a statistical comparison of # of ships at sea vs. number of fires. That's the only way I can justify (to myself) whether or not this is a problem. Until then, I'm just glad everyone is back on dry land!

I would think this could be an issue trying to transfer. I know when we were in Cabo in March getting on/off the tender made me uneasy and that was in controlled conditions. There was some bobbing of the tender. That is near shore but not in a bay or anything like that.

I would be interested in your conclusions. I am sure there are other fires that aren't even reported they keep hush hush.

 

[truck1]

Good morning to all!

Sorry I wasn't here last night I had my own little vessel issue on a bulker here up in Mass.

First and foremost, a moment of thanks to whatever faith you may follow that the vessel got in safe and sound.

Kudos to the vessels crew.I have not seen one report or comment that was not praised the actions and work of the crew to make the best of a bad situation.

Thanks to everyone who followed my request to keep this about the progress of the Triumph, and not a DCL Vs Carnival.

As to some posts.

!. Truck my friend, I thought all lifeboats had to have the ablity to be lowered/launched without needing power.....at least back, in my day and on the cargo vessels I mostly deal with now, that is the case........



4. The Concordia is still on her side, on the bottom. They don't expect to get her afloat for a number of months yet. The final decision has not been announced as yet, but the Las Vegas odds are strong she will be scrapped.



AKK[/QUOTE
It was announced on the salvage site Concordia is being scrapped once she's floated. I'm in class at the moment and dont have access to the site. As far as lifeboat launching power I am under the same thought that there is a manual gravity deployment in the event of total power failure.
. This differs from the new changes that affect oil rigs at sea and is being confused/used interchangeably with cruise ships. I'll try and look when I get home if my mind isn't totally numb from this class I'm taking.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Tonka's Skipper,

Thanks for pointing out what should be obvious to everyone who has ever cruised....it is not SAFE to transfer people ship to ship in the open ocean. Anyone suggesting it has obviously never tried to get on a tender when the waves are a little rocky (and that's with a ship that is anchored!).

You have been offering very helpful information which, if people were reading, would be answering a lot of the questions/accusations being made.

It's an awful situation and I'm not sure how I'm feeling about Carnival right now. This afternoon, I'm going to try to put together a statistical comparison of # of ships at sea vs. number of fires. That's the only way I can justify (to myself) whether or not this is a problem. Until then, I'm just glad everyone is back on dry land!

Your most welcome.........

 

[justmestace]

An interesting note John Heald received from a Triumph passenger:

John Heald


The fact that this lady has taken the time to write this the day after she disembarked the Carnival Triumph is simply brilliant and I wanted to share her story with you all and her words of praise for one very special crew member

Georgette Bedford Ford posted toJohn Heald
5 minutes ago near New Orleans, LA via mobile.Just got off Triumph last night and I would like to ask you to give a giant kudos to Loreto from Phillipines who was our room steward on 6221 Triumph! He was amazing, he disinfected our rooms every couple of hours, sprayed the halls with a room spray, got us ice and was always there for us smiling and laughing. He hardly slept and when he did he slept in the hallway in case we needed him. I think my experience would have been different had we not had Loreto with us! This was not the way I planned to enjoy my platinum voyage but it definitely wasn't for me anything like I just watched on tv last night !

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

An interesting note John Heald received from a Triumph passenger:

John Heald


The fact that this lady has taken the time to write this the day after she disembarked the Carnival Triumph is simply brilliant and I wanted to share her story with you all and her words of praise for one very special crew member

Georgette Bedford Ford posted toJohn Heald
5 minutes ago near New Orleans, LA via mobile.Just got off Triumph last night and I would like to ask you to give a giant kudos to Loreto from Phillipines who was our room steward on 6221 Triumph! He was amazing, he disinfected our rooms every couple of hours, sprayed the halls with a room spray, got us ice and was always there for us smiling and laughing. He hardly slept and when he did he slept in the hallway in case we needed him. I think my experience would have been different had we not had Loreto with us! This was not the way I planned to enjoy my platinum voyage but it definitely wasn't for me anything like I just watched on tv last night !

Kudos! to this Crewman. This is why the people that wine about the tips gets my blood boiling.

Whatever line it is.........these folks work hard to give us a great cruise and even under the terrible conditions and what was surely many extra hours this crew member was looking after his passengers!

That is professionalism and Duty.....!

AKK

 

[Rogillio]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/home/...riumph-cruise-travel-bookings-prices/1922915/

"Social media could play a much bigger role this time..."

I hadn't thought about this. You know everybody with a cellphone was getting pictures and video of the conditions on board and will soon be posting them on FB and and emailing them to friends and family.

 

[justmestace]

Kudos! to this gal. This is why the people that wine about the tips gets my blood boiling.

Whatever line it is.........these folks work hard to give us a great cruise and even under the terrible conditions and what was surely many extra hours this crew member was looking after her passigners!

That is professionalism.....!

AKK

I agree!! In ALL of our cruises, I think we've only had TWO hosts who really went above and beyond. Our beloved friend Rodolfo on Disney, and one on another line. We've done the "butler" thing on NCL.....no real memories at all of them. Must not have made much of an impression.
But Rodolfo......THAT'S a good worker, and a good man.

 

[ilovetexas]

I am most impressed with the stories about the crew. Everyone, regardless of the good or bad they have to say about this cruise/experience, has said the crew went above and beyond to make them safe and as comfortable as possible.

This is why I "bristle" at the occasional insults toward Carnival service (both here and on CC). On EVERY line I've been on, the crew has been, for the most part, great. They may not be chummy and knitting me socks, but they have, for the most part, done a very good job. This is a great testament to the fact that most of them on ANY cruise line would rise to the occasion and take special care of the guests in their charge.

GO CREW!!!

 

[justmestace]

The first lawsuit has already been filed. That didn't take long at all.

It was for physical and emotional harm, due to anxiety, nervousness and loss of enjoyment of life.

Not saying that this isn't true in this case....but what's to stop other people who went on, say for example, a Norwegian cruise, and everything was fine with the ship, but someone still suffered from nervousness and anxiety, etc? I guess what I'm getting at is that it doesn't seem to take anything TRULY physical to file a lawsuit. Okay, that sounds dumb....maybe I don't know what I'm trying to say.

Or, for example, I WAS injured on a ship....medical records to prove it. I didn't sue, even though they admitted they were at fault. I was told to contact someone shoreside, and when I did, I was told I didn't have a leg to stand on, wasn't offered any compensation, and nothing else came of it. I didn't sue.....didn't think I stood a chance against tons of corporate lawyers.
So.....under these well-documented circumstances, what do you think this lady's chances are?

 

[Chuck S]

Too many possibilities to even guess what will happen in court. If this woman was really injured, I could see compensation for medical expenses and so on.

But, if they're going to grant judgments for plain old fashioned anxiety, heck, I could file because I'm booked on that ship for September, and that is causing me anxiety as to whether she'll be able to sail. LOL

There is no guarantee of an anxiety free cruise, or an anxiety free life for that matter. Anything can go wrong when you travel, things beyond the expected, and beyond anyone's control. Plus you sign waivers, so we'll see what happens.

I'm sure it was not a pleasant experience and certainly not at all what people expected, but it could have been much, much worse.

 

[Embel]

"Loss of enjoyment of life"

That's a thing??

A thing you can sue for?