New site is fighting me to book a king bed with child

[manateesmom]

So, we usually just chuck DS between us in a king sized bed when we travel with him. He's too big for a pack n play but too small to sleep alone in a strange bed when traveling. He'll be just-turned three when we will likely be at WDW later this year.

We had previously booked (and needed to reschedule) a king bedroom at POR. Room only. When we said he was 2, we could book king, but if we said he was 3, king was no longer available. I guess that's the threshold where they consider him to be a big kid. That booking was late last year, and since then there's been fabulous website updates.

Now, if I book a vacation PACKAGE, I can book a king bedroom by calling DS 2, but then I'll need to buy a separate park ticket for him, because he'll be 3 and need a ticket for the parks. Which is fine. But if I try to buy the ROOM ONLY, even if I call him 2, or an infant, it says the king room is unavailable because the party size exceeds capacity (even though the room is clearly available to book an under-3 in, because I can do it with a package). The same room, same parameters, different results based on whether I try to book package or room-only.

I'm not trying to scam anyone. I'll pay for DS to get into the park. I just want a room with a king bed, because that's how we sleep on vacation. On a cruise ship, we need to pay for each person in a room, because of lifeboat capacity, but I want to spend 3 nights at WDW, why is this so hard?

I don't know why the stupid website is fighting with me, and I'm concerned that the package that lets me book now will go away if they "update" the website further.

Has anyone had better luck calling? I hate spending 40 minutes on the phone for something I can theoretically do online.

 

[dansdad]

Sorry, if your DS is 3 he counts towards the room occupancy. King rooms are legal for 2 people 3+ only.

 

[merina888]

As PP said, at 3 he counts toward room occupancy since most 3 year olds don't sleep in a pack-n-play. I think if Disney allows this, it violates fire codes and such. However, try calling and see what a CM says.

 

[dansdad]

I think if Disney allows this, it violates fire codes and such.

Yes, it would definitely be in violation of fire code.

 

[RookieLady]

Yes, talk to a CM. My mother and father took my son when he was 3 and he slept between them in the king.

 

[manateesmom]

It's not illegal. They are the same rooms as those with double beds, just with one fewer bed. They are fire-rated to the same occupancy as the rooms with 2 queens. The fire hazard is in cramming pack n plays in there, blocking the exits. There is no legal requirement that changes an occupant's status from "okay" to "not okay" between ages 2 and 3. If you can book a 2 year old in a room, there's no LEGAL reason you can't book a 3 year old in the room. It's a hotel policy.

 

[dansdad]

If you can book a 2 year old in a room, there's no LEGAL reason you can't book a 3 year old in the room. It's a hotel policy.

Yes there is. A 2 year old is expected to be carried by an adult in case of emergency. A 3 year old is expected to walk on their own. When designing hallways, stairs etc for escaping the architect takes into effect how many double rooms (4) and how many kings (2) are on each floor and total in the building.

 

[Missytara]

Yes there is. A 2 year old is expected to be carried by an adult in case of emergency. A 3 year old is expected to walk on their own. When designing hallways, stairs etc for escaping the architect takes into effect how many double rooms (4) and how many kings (2) are on each floor and total in the building.

This one.

I am an architect and in hotel/resort situations, it is "assumed" that a parent will carry a child under the age of 3, thus a child is not taking up space in the exit corridors or stairs.

Once they become the age of 3, it is an industry standard that the child has the potential to walk on their own and does take up space in the corridor or exit stairs, so they must be counted towards occupancy.

It is not by accident they do this, it is a federal mandated code.

Good catch.

 

[gwynne]

So, we usually just chuck DS between us in a king sized bed when we travel with him. He's too big for a pack n play but too small to sleep alone in a strange bed when traveling. He'll be just-turned three when we will likely be at WDW later this year.

We had previously booked (and needed to reschedule) a king bedroom at POR. Room only. When we said he was 2, we could book king, but if we said he was 3, king was no longer available. I guess that's the threshold where they consider him to be a big kid. That booking was late last year, and since then there's been fabulous website updates.

Now, if I book a vacation PACKAGE, I can book a king bedroom by calling DS 2, but then I'll need to buy a separate park ticket for him, because he'll be 3 and need a ticket for the parks. Which is fine. But if I try to buy the ROOM ONLY, even if I call him 2, or an infant, it says the king room is unavailable because the party size exceeds capacity (even though the room is clearly available to book an under-3 in, because I can do it with a package). The same room, same parameters, different results based on whether I try to book package or room-only.

I'm not trying to scam anyone. I'll pay for DS to get into the park. I just want a room with a king bed, because that's how we sleep on vacation. On a cruise ship, we need to pay for each person in a room, because of lifeboat capacity, but I want to spend 3 nights at WDW, why is this so hard?

I don't know why the stupid website is fighting with me, and I'm concerned that the package that lets me book now will go away if they "update" the website further.

Has anyone had better luck calling? I hate spending 40 minutes on the phone for something I can theoretically do online.

Keep in mind, too, that even if you feel you've figured out a "work around" Disney does reserve the right to make changes to your reservation. Views, Rooms, heck, even Resorts aren't guaranteed.

 

[ccgirl]

Sorry, if your DS is 3 he counts towards the room occupancy. King rooms are legal for 2 people 3+ only.

Yup, this.

When we traveled with my DS3 we just requested the bed rails.

 

[ccgirl]

Yes, talk to a CM. My mother and father took my son when he was 3 and he slept between them in the king.

Just because they did it doesn't mean it's allowed.


We see posts all the time of people saying things are okay because they got away with it.

Hey, if you stole a bunch of steaks from a supermarket is it okay as long as you (a general you) don't get caught?

 

[maxiesmom]

Sorry, but you are over occupancy for a king room. As mentioned, it is against the fire code. And Disney could in theory kick you out of your room if you have more people in it than they allow. Or make you pay for a second room.

Also, you can book a certain room type, and not get it. I'm the poster child for that, unfortunately. Been downgraded from a paid for room type. Twice.

Could you not make do with 2 queen beds?

 

[minnie mum]

Sorry, OP. Your days of booking a king bed at a Disney resort are now over. Get used to it now. And you aren't going to get any support on this board for trying to work around Disney policies. You have a 3 year old now, not a 2 year old.

Get a standard room with 2 beds and request bedrails for your child.

 

[lililoo12]

You can get a bed rail free of charge for the bed for your child.

 

[lililoo12]

My kids were in beds by 2.5 yrs old

 

[kaytieeldr]

If you can book a 2 year old in a room, there's no LEGAL reason you can't book a 3 year old in the room. It's a hotel policy.

Fire codes are legal reasons.
Despite its size, a king bed's expected occupancy is two people.
Your hotel choice limits the number of guests three and older to two persons in a room where the bed configuration holds two persons.
Your party consists of three persons ages three and older.

 

[lililoo12]

You can get a king bed with two adults and an infant. What about fire code then?

 

[dansdad]

You can get a king bed with two adults and an infant. What about fire code then?

If the infant is under 3, they don't count against the room occupancy.

 

[Lilliputian]

You can get a king bed with two adults and an infant. What about fire code then?

That's already been explained. People carry babies when they evacuate a hotel during a fire. The halls and stairwells are designed to accommodate a certain number of people. There's no law that says that children over 3 have to walk and all 2 year olds have to be carried, but they have to draw the line somewhere, and that's where it is.

OP, your other option is to book a deluxe resort with a king bed and a day bed.

 

[zy144622]

You will not be able to book a king room at POR with more than 2 people but you can request it if you book a paid view of some sort. AB room have a Murphy and can sleep 3 easy with or with out pack n play. Again a request is not guaranteed but could happen. Go to the POR threads for details of faxing your request with good odds for pixie dust.