Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread-Part 4

[madge]

They might even still be friendly to this day...

Jodi & Kate still friendly? After the RadarOnline interviews?

maybe.

but, I highly doubt it.

 

[Buckalew11]

I just finished watching the reairing of last nights show, I missed it last night. I was struck with how much regret that kate had in regards to their relationship. I have been there myself in her shoes wishing I wasn't the way I was and hoping to make it through and make things better with someone that really doesn't seem t want to work things out with yuu. She just seemed sad to me about the whole mess and powerless.

Jon seems to have already have checked out of the whole thing. He just struck me as being all done and i was wondering if he was contracted to be on the shw this season and that is the only real reason he was there? He seemed bitter about the whole thing and like he wanted to get the point across that this was between him and kate and that he still intended to be a part of things with the kids no matter what. But he seemed disengaged even with the kids at the party. That could of had to do with being there with Kate which was clear to me je didn't want to be.

My marriage ultimately survived with mistakes made on both of our parts. I am hoping that theits can too.I just hope jon can realize that this might be worth working on not just for the kids but bor him and kate as well. He seems to hold all the cards in the deck right now and Kate just strikes me as efeated and remorseful, very different from what I have seen from the marathon over the weekend. I know she said she was angry but to me it seemed like jon was the angry one.

I thought many of these same thoughts, Monique. If Kate really does want to work it out and Jon is already checked out, it is too sad. If the roles were reversed, I'd feel the same way. I'd like to see them work it out but something tells me they may not be able. And if they don't I think kate will be fine, in time. I think she is such a strong woman, determined and driven that she'll be fine.

 

[Buckalew11]

Jodi & Kate still friendly? After the RadarOnline interviews?

maybe.

but, I highly doubt it.

Uh, no...

I was saying if the cameras had not been there and Jodi didn't know how mad Kate was and Kate didn't know that Jodi lied about Kate's children to her that w/o the cameras and evidence of the anger and lie, it may have all been over and done w/o either of them knowing the truth about the whle situation. So, in turn, they may still have been friendly to this day.

 

[kidshop]

You've been around this thread long enough to know we hash out the details. You yourself pointed out the "small stuff" detail about gum on planes.

Just because someone does you favors doesn't mean you aren't allowed to be upset. Have you never overreacted about something that was really nothing? Has someone who does nice things for you never made you mad? Think of something that only kind of bugs you. Multiply it by eight.

I think everything kind of bugs Kate! But yes, I see what you mean as well.

 

[MoniqueU]

I thought many of these same thoughts, Monique. If Kate really does want to work it out and Jon is already checked out, it is too sad. If the roles were reversed, I'd feel the same way. I'd like to see them work it out but something tells me they may not be able. And if they don't I think kate will be fine, in time. I think she is such a strong woman, determined and driven that she'll be fine.

Yeah I am not sure if it will work out, and I am not taking sides for either one of them. Mistakes of some sort or the other were made by both people. IT just seems that only one of them realize that at this time. Not blaming anyone just an observation.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Yeah I am not sure if it will work out, and I am not taking sides for either one of them. Mistakes of some sort or the other were made by both people. IT just seems that only one of them realize that at this time. Not blaming anyone just an observation.

I wish they could work it out, it was obvious they used to love each other. Now it just seems they are both done with it, maybe I'm wrong but from last night it came across that way.

 

[WebmasterJackie]

We just started watching this about 6 months ago & the one thing that really bugged me about last night's show was when they were all sitting on the bench to take their family pic, as soon as Jon sat down, Kate said "take off your sunglasses" to him. She didn't ask him, she TOLD him to do it. DH & I have been married for 16+ years & I don't ever just TELL him to do anything. It's just not a nice way to speak to anyone. He doesn't do it to me either. Married couples have to have mutual respect for each other!

Has she been sassy like that throughout the entire show? I would think that with the issues they're having, she would at least make an attempt to be nice to him & treat him like a grown-up instead of ordering him around like a child?

 

[emer95]

We just started watching this about 6 months ago & the one thing that really bugged me about last night's show was when they were all sitting on the bench to take their family pic, as soon as Jon sat down, Kate said "take off your sunglasses" to him. She didn't ask him, she TOLD him to do it. DH & I have been married for 16+ years & I don't ever just TELL him to do anything. It's just not a nice way to speak to anyone. He doesn't do it to me either. Married couples have to have mutual respect for each other!

Has she been sassy like that throughout the entire show? I would think that with the issues they're having, she would at least make an attempt to be nice to him & treat him like a grown-up instead of ordering him around like a child?

Oh my...YES. The sunglasses comment was nothing. She has been downright cruel to him on many occasions.

 

[TotalSnowWhite]

Oh my...YES. The sunglasses comment was nothing. She has been downright cruel to him on many occasions.

Now, don't forget to add in the backhanded, passive-aggressive remarks he makes, as well.

 

[emer95]

Here's my question: How much longer can the show go on like this? If Jon really is living above the garage (allegedly!) and they're coming together just for the kids/taping of the show, and the clear and painful uncomfortable awkwardness of seeing them together continues, will there really be a season 6?

 

[WebmasterJackie]

Oh my...YES. The sunglasses comment was nothing. She has been downright cruel to him on many occasions.

See...that's why I'm having a hard time feeling sorry for Kate. I can't imagine how stressful it must be having all those children but Jon is her partner in this thing & she can't seem to figure out how to be a team with him. Very sad!

 

[nuke]

I thought many of these same thoughts, Monique. If Kate really does want to work it out and Jon is already checked out, it is too sad. If the roles were reversed, I'd feel the same way. I'd like to see them work it out but something tells me they may not be able. And if they don't I think kate will be fine, in time. I think she is such a strong woman, determined and driven that she'll be fine.

I have no doubt that Kate will be fine and Jon will be fine. The kids...not so much.

 

[emer95]

Now, don't forget to add in the backhanded, passive-aggressive remarks he makes, as well.

Sorry, those are small potatoes in my very humble opinion. I see them as retaliation to what he has been dealing with for so long. Again, just my opinion, but they don't compare.

 

[LoraJ]

Sounds like I should divorce my husband. I never knew how emotionally abused I was until reading these J&K threads. All the times he gets "sassy" with me for leaving the satellite radio in the car.

I guess that means it is okay for me to cheat on him.

 

[Buckalew11]

I have no doubt that Kate will be fine and Jon will be fine. The kids...not so much.

I'll probably "worry" about Jon.

The kids will suffer. I don't think I've met a child of divorce that did not suffer in at least some way because of it. Even when you think they are fine, they probably aren't fine through and through.

 

[emer95]

Sounds like I should divorce my husband. I never knew how emotionally abused I was until reading these J&K threads. All the times he gets "sassy" with me for leaving the satellite radio in the car.

I guess that means it is okay for me to cheat on him.

No. What you two need is a reality show.

 

[WebmasterJackie]

Sounds like I should divorce my husband. I never knew how emotionally abused I was until reading these J&K threads. All the times he gets "sassy" with me for leaving the satellite radio in the car.

I guess that means it is okay for me to cheat on him.

As I said, we just started watching this show 6 months ago, if even that. I don't know anything about anyone cheating on anyone & I most certainly DID NOT suggest that it was okay. My DH & I have been married for 16 years because we have mutual respect for each other, among other things. From what I've seen of this show, I just don't think Kate is very respectful of her husband & I'm not surprised that he said he feels like he's in jail...so sad. In the shows I've seen, I have not seen Jon being rude & demeaning to Kate.

 

[danajune]

Everyone is always saying how demanding and bossy Kate is and how bad she treats Jon, but in all fairness up until now Jon has wanted it. You can tell. You can tell Jon needs it and feeds off it. I believe in mutual respect and that a wife should never talk to her husband like that and vice versa, but I feel like Jon was really young when all of this started happening (twins at 23, sextuplets at 27) and he needed Kate's guidance and control. Kate just seems to take everything that's thrown at her and deal with it. She's focused and determined. And from what I've seen she's been the same way since they met, so this is nothing new for Jon. I think he just woke up and realized she's gone all the time, travelling, tanning and he's stuck at home with 8 kids and 2 dogs. Which as any stay at home mom would know, that can get tiring and monatenous, as much as you LOVE your kids, if you're seeing your spouse constantly leaving and experiencing all these things, you're gonna get tired of being home every day.

BUT there's no excuse for his actions. He knows he's on tv and he knows people are going to be watching his every move.. In my mind, he has given up.. He wants to live a little more. Which is sad but it is what it is, everyone is different.

But you can tell in old episodes that they were once very deep in love, and I truly hope someday he stumbles across one of those episodes and realizes how much he does love her and how amazing their life can be together.
They really need to take some time to be together and reconnect.

I wish them the best!

 

[WebmasterJackie]

Everyone is always saying how demanding and bossy Kate is and how bad she treats Jon, but in all fairness up until now Jon has wanted it. You can tell. You can tell Jon needs it and feeds off it. I believe in mutual respect and that a wife should never talk to her husband like that and vice versa, but I feel like Jon was really young when all of this started happening (twins at 23, sextuplets at 27) and he needed Kate's guidance and control. Kate just seems to take everything that's thrown at her and deal with it. She's focused and determined. And from what I've seen she's been the same way since they met, so this is nothing new for Jon. I think he just woke up and realized she's gone all the time, travelling, tanning and he's stuck at home with 8 kids and 2 dogs. Which as any stay at home mom would know, that can get tiring and monatenous, as much as you LOVE your kids, if you're seeing your spouse constantly leaving and experiencing all these things, you're gonna get tired of being home every day.

BUT there's no excuse for his actions. He knows he's on tv and he knows people are going to be watching his every move.. In my mind, he has given up.. He wants to live a little more. Which is sad but it is what it is, everyone is different.

But you can tell in old episodes that they were once very deep in love, and I truly hope someday he stumbles across one of those episodes and realizes how much he does love her and how amazing their life can be together.
They really need to take some time to be together and reconnect.

I wish them the best!

 

[MoniqueU]

Sounds like I should divorce my husband. I never knew how emotionally abused I was until reading these J&K threads. All the times he gets "sassy" with me for leaving the satellite radio in the car.

I guess that means it is okay for me to cheat on him.

My DH and I have both told each other what to do on occasion. I sure can't say that I haven't and I know he has. We have been through so much, we only have 3 kids but we have been through far more then Jon and Kate, I would assume minus the cameras and we are still together.
Right now in this day and age I don't think you could force either of us apart or tempt either of us to cheat on each other but that wasn't always the case. The comments she has made to him on the show and he to her and what is going on with them now is all just awful, there are no winners or sides to be taken in this right now I don't think. It takes 2 people to make a marriage and it takes 2 people to tear it apart in my opinion. Especially in this case.