Zipping up the Flame Suit

[Aidensmom]

Sorry but the stroller should have been folded up in the first place before even getting on the monorail since it was crowded. Parents were rude for not haivng it folded in the first place.

Next time I am at the parks alone with my 3 year old, I will be happy to meet you outside the monorail so you can hold my child's hand while I am busy folding up the stroller, and you can continue to hold it while I carry the stroller, my purse, our bag, and any purchases we have made.....

I am not trying to be mean, just make the point that we don't always know everyone else's circumstances but we are quick to point out what they "should" have done. The lady that the OP was talking about may have been purposely rude, maybe just wasn't thinking and would have moved it if asked, or maybe had some other reason like she thought it was more out of the way there than in the middle of the aisle. If no one asked her to move the stroller, well, you really don't know if she was rude or not.

 

[Gary M]

I always seem to see rude people taking up extra seats at the gate at the airport. The selfish people have their carry-on baggage, coats, etc. in the seat or seats beside them while people are standing, because no seats are available.

 

[duck_adoo]

Both times we have gone, we've had 2 strollers (twin dd's), I can't even recall a time when the strollers were placed on a seat. We usually held them right in front of us so we *wouldn't* be taking a seat. I just don't know how some people think? Or do they?

 

[bavaria]

She must have been related to this man:

A few years ago I had my arm seriously strapped up and in a sling. (To the point where ppl came up to me to ask if it hurt) Was waiting for a monorail at GF, when a youngish couple (early 30's) stampede past me to the only seats, leaving me trying to hold onto the railing.

The wife says to her husband, 'honey, what about your father?' To which he replies, 'he's in a wheelchair, some staff member will just have to look after him'

Yup, that's right - they left poor dad on the platform to fend for himself, while they knocked over other ppl to grab the last seats.

 

[Disneyholic]

At 30/40/50 you're old enough to make the decision to rent a car or not if you don't like public transportation.

DH & I are 51 & 61 and drive to Disney from PA so no need to rent a car, but when we are in WDW we park the car and take the Dis transportation. Why waste the gas at todays prices? The transportation is there for everyone to use and we do us it. There have been times when we have given up our seats or even held a little one for someone. There are also times that I have not been able to give up my seat because some part of me was hurting. I also have not gotten on a bus because I felt it was overcrowded and unsafe, and yet I have seen young people with young kids squish themselves on so they don't have to wait for the next bus.




As for moving the stroller or asking to have it moved, you are taking your chances. She may have put it there because she didn't want anyone to sit next to her. She probably felt that she DESERVED that space. My family was coming home on a bus from a trip to NY City and a Husband and Wife got on and took a window seat on opposite sides of the aisle and put their stuff on the seat next to them. An elderly gentleman got on and asked the Wife if she could move her belongings so he could sit down. She told him to find another seat and when he insisted that she move her things she proceeded to spill her drink on him, on purpose as she moved to sit with her husband. She and Hubby proceeded to be verbally abusive to him. Those of us around them tried to get the bus driver to do something about them and he did nothing. Later the Hubby got up to go to the toilet and as he was going in the bus shifted lanes, throwing him into the little room. My daughter exclaimed that his Karma was coming back to get him. There were also other people on the bus who felt that they deserved a seat for themselves and their stuff
The couple got off the stop before ours and the gentleman's, thank goodness, because I was afraid that they would try to follow him and attack him further. After they got off my DD, DS and I talked the the gentleman and he told us he had just been to NY City at the insistance of his son to sign up for Holocaust Survivors funds. He suffered all that and now has to put up with more from these insensitive idiots.

 

[leahannpen]

I am one for common courtesy, and I'm trying to teach my son (4) these things now. I find it nice to offer up seats, hold doors...etc. You don't HAVE to do these things, and YES the person with child or whatever could wait for another bus, but everyone is tired and it's a nice gesture and usually always appreciated. (If you are able bodied, that is.) I try not to judge if I see someone who apprears able, but dosen't do something such as give up a seat, as you just never know. That being said, she was hogging seats with a stroller, which is just rude in my book.

My whole family has given up seats on the bus for older people, pregnant women or a parent holding a baby.

This will be interesting to test, as we leave in 6 days and I'm 6 1/2 months prego with a son in a stroller and DH isn't traveling with me. I won't "expect" anything, but I'll put DS on my lap if someone is nice enough to offer up a seat...which will be met with a big THANK YOU!

 

[MommyPoppins]

She picked up her stroller and put it on the seat? What are some people thinking? Was it folded up? Why wasn't her kid in it anyway? You don't have to fold them on the monorail. lol. Some people.

 

[TPCShauna]

I'm not meaning this in an inflammatory manner but this really struck a chord with me.

I just want to say that you shouldn't always assume that someone who looks "able-bodied" is necessarily so. I partially ruptured my achilles tendon 2 and 1/2 years ago. While it is mostly healed, lots of walking makes it hurt like nobody's business. After walking all day in the parks, I NEED to sit down. I would not give my seat up to anyone other than an elderly person or a pregnant woman at this time.

DH and I don't have kids and don't crowd onto transportation. If we wait for a bus, monorail, etc. and are one of the first people on, why should we have to give up our seats to anyone? We have paid for the right to use the transportation. Of course, we were both raised better than that and have often given up our seats to elderly people, pregnant women and people with kids but there is no reason to lambast people who don't.

Yes, the issue with the stroller was completely rude but it was compounded by the fact that the OP wouldn't just ask. Most of the time, people don't even realize that they are causing a problem or taking up extra space. I'm sure that she would have been happy to move the stroller had someone asked her.

Please remember that you can't assume that people were taught manners the same way you were or that they have the same customs where they are from. If something is really bothering you, ask the person if they can scoot over or whatever. If they are like me, they might not be able to move. Like an earlier poster said, they might not be aware they were doing anything in the first place.

 

[PratersloveDW]

I often offer my lap if a lady needs a seat....

 

[taximomfor4]

Yes, she might have been too tired to realize what she was doing, but she could have also known exactly what she was doing too. Some people just don't care. I have seen that quite a bit in the past.

Could have been the family on the SWA plane with me last week, lol. Mom, dad, 4yo dd, baby girl. 3 seats on each side of aisle. Dad put 4yo dd at window seat, sat himself in aisle seat, put middle seat's tray down and put mcdonalds fries on it, then put a coloring book, open, on the middle seat itself. Mom put baby in carseat at window seat across aisle from dad, sat herself in aisle seat (as IF she would sit apart from her baby should someone need that middle seat), put the middle seat's tray down, spread mcdonalds fries on it, set a jacket on the middle seat itself. I COMPLETELY understand their desire to spread out, but in a 95% full plane, I think it was pretty audacious to make sure that 2 of the 4 empty seats would be in their rows!

Anyway, rant off. Thanks, I feel much better! (I was jsut jealous cuz I hadn't thought of that plan, and would have lacked the nerve to carry it out if I HAD thought of it. Instead, I had a woman next to me with the awful habit of clicking her dentures. Every 20 seconds for the ENTIRE flight. Man was I missing my walkman, hehe!)

Beth

 

[taximomfor4]

I agree that was rude!

It also reminds me of when I made my then 4 year old give up her seat on the bus and sit on my lap because it was standing room only, only to have a mom put her 4 year old in the seat (and not another adult standing or maybe put the 4 year old on her lap??) and having to explain to my 4 year old why she gave up her seat. I don't know why this bothered me but it did. I think small children should be put on laps when it's standing room only.

Not going to go into details on why( I did on another board) but we put each of our FOUR children (11,6,5,2) in their very own seats on the bus. People glared, but have no idea what our reasons are and don't require an explanation. Just a heads up that sometimes (probably not most of the time though) people are apparently doing something wrong when, in fact, they are in the right and don't feel people around them are owed an explanation.

Smile, the sun is shining SOMEWHERE! (Not here, but SOMEWHERE!)

 

[taximomfor4]

I think it's because they have the mentality that you really didn't have to stand; you could have waited for the next bus....

BINGO, we did just that, many times over Easter week. We let the line behind us go onto the bus, and then waited first in line to get seats on the next bus. For all six of us.

Beth

 

[beattyfamily]

Not going to go into details on why( I did on another board) but we put each of our FOUR children (11,6,5,2) in their very own seats on the bus. People glared, but have no idea what our reasons are and don't require an explanation. Just a heads up that sometimes (probably not most of the time though) people are apparently doing something wrong when, in fact, they are in the right and don't feel people around them are owed an explanation.

No biggie. Next time I'll do the same as you and I won't make my 4 year old give up her seat and sit on my lap.

 

[taximomfor4]

No biggie. Next time I'll do the same as you and I won't make my 4 year old give up her seat and sit on my lap.

Lol...it is sad that your poor 4yo was gracious enough to give up her seat, only to miss seeing what good could have come of it. At least you are doing your best to teach her manners and respect. Sometimes it backfires, but you try!!



Beth

p.s. I hope my post didn't come across with attitude, I just was typing quickly while ignoring the whiney 2yo (she caught a cold and is doing her best to share her misery, lol). Didn't want to go into big explanations that deviate from the main point.

 

[beattyfamily]

p.s. I hope my post didn't come across with attitude, I just was typing quickly while ignoring the whiney 2yo (she caught a cold and is doing her best to share her misery, lol). Didn't want to go into big explanations that deviate from the main point.

No worries. I see your point. That sometimes we don't know someone has aa very good reason for sitting and not giving up their seat. There can reasons or handicaps issues we don't know about.

I never let all this stuff affect my trip! My 4 year old wasn't too happy though to see another 4 year old in the seat she once had but I explained it as best as I could about sharing and manners and all!

 

[BostonRob]

I COMPLETELY understand their desire to spread out, but in a 95% full plane, I think it was pretty audacious to make sure that 2 of the 4 empty seats would be in their rows!

Beth

Audacious is an understatement. I try not to let the little things get to me, but stories like that make my blood boil. Who do these people think they are?

 

[Aidensmom]

Not going to go into details on why( I did on another board) but we put each of our FOUR children (11,6,5,2) in their very own seats on the bus. People glared, but have no idea what our reasons are and don't require an explanation. Just a heads up that sometimes (probably not most of the time though) people are apparently doing something wrong when, in fact, they are in the right and don't feel people around them are owed an explanation.

Smile, the sun is shining SOMEWHERE! (Not here, but SOMEWHERE!)

When we went for a week last year, about 75% of the time I put my 3 year old in his own seat too (and got the glares) and I will risk the flaming to say why: 1. My child deserves the seat too. He is a paying customer like everyone else. 2. He thinks it is a ride, and is actually one of his favorite parts of the whole trip! (I could save a lot of money on park tickets and just ride the buses the whole trip) 3. Would you rather hear him having a temper tantrum on your whole 30 minute ride back to your resort?

I think a lot of people who complain about this type of thing have never had kids or when they did, they were not in this type of situation. That bus ride is magic to him, and at his age, being able to do something like a "big person" is even more magical. It is his (and my) vacation also. By the way, the 25% of the time we will give up a seat is if someone obviously would have a hard time standing or if my son is asleep or almost asleep.

 

[tifandjim]

After a long day at Epcot we hopped on the monorail. As many of you know the seats fit 5 adults and maybe 4 adults 2 kids. Anyway, a mother in the stroller puts her stroller next to her in the seat instead of in the middle so she took up 3 seats total.

My DH and I were seated and saw the same thing happen. At which point, my DH stands and lets a woman with a child have his seat. Some people are so rude to take up numerous seats for a stroller. What are they thinking?

 

[Talking Hands]

Next time I am at the parks alone with my 3 year old, I will be happy to meet you outside the monorail so you can hold my child's hand while I am busy folding up the stroller, and you can continue to hold it while I carry the stroller, my purse, our bag, and any purchases we have made.....

I'll gladly hold your 3yo hand. Or better yet just pop him in my lap since I am in a wheelchair. Sorry but stroller are supposed to be folded and I am surprised that a CM did not remind her of this when she got to the monorail. I know when our kids were younger we were constanlty reminded by CM that strollers were to be folded on all Disney transportation.

 

[Aidensmom]

I'll gladly hold your 3yo hand. Or better yet just pop him in my lap since I am in a wheelchair. Sorry but stroller are supposed to be folded and I am surprised that a CM did not remind her of this when she got to the monorail. I know when our kids were younger we were constanlty reminded by CM that strollers were to be folded on all Disney transportation.

They may used to have had to been folded, but that is no longer the case. They have to be folded for the buses, but not the monorail.