You opinions on ads that say "Firm" after a price.

[Judique]

Now of course negotiating is not the same thing as rape- but you can be outraged all you want at Crisi, you are fooling yourself if you think a young man has NEVER unwittingly turned to sexual harrassment or yes, possibly even rape, because he was taught the mindset that "Everything is negotiatiable." Because what you are really saying in the end is, "No never really means NO."

I'm just a little perturbed and disappointed that two people (you and Crisi) whose posts I've read and respected over the years would suggest that negotiating for a car has anything to do with rape.

I may disagree with your posts about 'firm'.

However getting into an entirely different and very serious area to try to make such a point or defend making that point is over the top. It is almost as if you take rape lightly. I don't.

 

[Skywalker]

People use analogies to make a point, that's all. I don't think there is any opinion/agenda tucked in there.

Anyway, if the seller says "firm" and I find the prices is too high I walk away and figure its their loss. I always go on to find someone who is willing to negotiate. Saying the price is firm implies a kind of arrogance to me, lol, because it does take two people to reach a deal.

 

[mrsklamc]

I'm just a little perturbed and disappointed that two people (you and Crisi) whose posts I've read and respected over the years would suggest that negotiating for a car has anything to do with rape.

I may disagree with your posts about 'firm'.

However getting into an entirely different and very serious area to try to make such a point or defend making that point is over the top. It is almost as if you take rape lightly. I don't.

It's almost as if you didn't read my post. I specifically said that of course they are not the same thing and in no way did I express that I take rape lightly. The ONLY parallel I drew is that in both cases, someone thinks the word "no" does not mean no, or that it doesn't apply to them. Feel free to address specifically how that is incorrect.

 

[Judique]

The ONLY parallel I drew is that in both cases, someone thinks the word "no" does not mean no, or that it doesn't apply to them. Feel free to address specifically how that is incorrect.

Go back and read your post.

You implied that teaching a young person to negotiate might mean that the person would adopt the 'mindset' (your word that everything is negotiable, when the objective in question is purchase of a vehicle. You supported a totally unrelated event, just to make your point.

That is farfetched, especially for a teacher. You are really stretching things just to make a point. So much so that credibility is at stake.

 

[mrsklamc]

You're putting words in my mouth and still failing to address what I actually did say- so I'm not the one lacking credibility here. I'm also not and have never claimed to be a teacher.

 

[seashoreCM]

(snip) I knew I was unlikely to sell it at my price, but I gave it a shot. It was annoying how many people took it upon themselves to email me an offer, and then when I gave them a simple "No", came back to me with nasty emails telling me I'm an idiot for setting the price I chose, that I better take their offer, blah blah blah.

I wasn't about to break the Macbook over it, but it did really annoy me that complete strangers felt compelled to argue with me and try to strongarm me into lowering my price when I had been very clear that I was not going any lower.

I can't think of any good way of avoiding the nutjobs who frequent Craigslist. But you could put their email address on your block list or spam list and refuse to sell anything else to them at any price.