You can ride TT or Soarin but not both...agghh!

[JillianMarie]

It's not that I don't have sympathy - because I do - but why would you pull your kids out of school, spend thousands of dollars, travel all that way and then not wait in line if that's your only option? It's not that you can't do both, you just can't do both the way you want to. Again, I'm sympathetic because it sounds like you have a very restrictive schedule that everyone is on but there are lots of suggestions here that would help you get what you want.

 

[DisneyHardin]

DH and I were discussion TT and Soarin and the FPP situation on our way home from dinner just a little bit ago. I told him I would FPP TT for our fall trip and we would Rope Drop Soarin'. But, we are morning people, so getting there for RD is no big deal for us.

 

[Stoneham92]

We were recently at Epcot and found the singles line faster than the FastPass line. We had been at DHS most of the day and arranged a fast pass for 7:15 at TT. We arrived at 7:00pm and saw the singles line was only five minutes so we did a quick ride and then the fastpass took over 15 mins.

 

[Pooksie]

Nope. No functioning early risers in our crew....lol. We let them sleep in and usually stay until closing.

Then.....congratulations!

You are the target audience for Disney's soon to be announced, in my opinion, sales of additional FP+ reservations by tier for a fee.

You want to ride Test Track and Soarin' without waiting on long standby lines, no problemo. So long as you purchase an additional FP+ reservation for each person who wants to do so, and make sure that you get to the park that day while FP+ is still available for that ride (unless they sell the additional FP+ reservations ahead of time and allow you to make the reservations ahead of time, which would probably require an on site stay) then you can enjoy both tier one rides on the same day.

It's a win-win. You get the rides you want in the same day, and Disney recoups a little cash from that cool 1 billion dollars that they spent on MM+. They limited the FP+ to three and tiered the rides just to entice people like yourselves to take advantage of the ability to purchase additional FP+ reservations at their leisure. At least that's what my magic eight ball of common sense see's based on how Disney has structured the FP+ system.

 

[ljcrochet]

We used EMH in the evening to ride test track . No wait, and I liked the regular line better than the fast past line since you get more time to design your car.

 

[AJPPGH]

I just want to jump in to say how annoying it is to me that the pro "rope drop" people just assume that everyone can do this. It has been my experience that when on vacation kids generally stay up a little later thus want to sleep in a little later. To not let them do this makes for sleep deprived children who are not going to enjoy their experience as much. I would never do this to my kids for the purpose of sticking to a "touring plan" that requires everyone up and out super early. I also wonder how pleasant this truly is for the young children of rope droppers. Just sayin'

 

[tinkerpea]

I do understand where your coming from, as we are a family that do 3wk trips and normally not one early morning happens!

We have never been to a rope drop, and the only time we got up early was so the kids could fight Darth at HS!

However dh is deployed when we normally go this year and so we have no choice but to go from June 17th till July 8th, which means coming from the UK we will be, hot,tired, and not used to the crowds...

Meaning we have to change the way we tour or get nothing done! So we are getting up early every other day, doing rope drop then coming back to swim rest then going out again till late on the night we get to sleep in!
We understand that if we want to ride the rides with low waits then we have to suck it up!
This includes twins of 9 an autistic 11yr old and me who had had major head surgery last yr and chemo! It's not the way I want to do things but I'm nog paying all that money to get a few extra ZZZs and long waits!

 

[FlightlessDuck]

Until they digitally remaster the film, or better yet, create a whole new movie, I don't think Soarin' is worth it.

 

[Jennasis]

We are rope droppers, but not everyone wants to or can do that. My only suggestion would be reverse rope-drop and hit the rides just before park closing?

 

[LilyWDW]

I just want to jump in to say how annoying it is to me that the pro "rope drop" people just assume that everyone can do this. It has been my experience that when on vacation kids generally stay up a little later thus want to sleep in a little later. To not let them do this makes for sleep deprived children who are not going to enjoy their experience as much. I would never do this to my kids for the purpose of sticking to a "touring plan" that requires everyone up and out super early. I also wonder how pleasant this truly is for the young children of rope droppers. Just sayin'

Many families do this successfully without having cranky children. It is called don't have early mornings after late nights. Heck, I follow that rule and I don't even travel with kids!

Each family has to make the decision that works best for them while knowing that decision could mean that some stuff is missed or done differently. That is not the fault of Disney at all. There ARE ways to do both rides. Rope drop is one of those ways as other posters have pointed out. The OP has decided (and yes, it is a decision and not something they are forced to do) that they prefer not to do rope drop. Thus, they will need to figure something else out.

 

[DividedSky]

those two rides will carry the same number of passengers as they did a year ago.

If you can't ride them both in a day, it isn't because of tiered fast pass+ system.

 

[bcrook]

I wonder if RD will now become a must do at EP and DHS in terms of crowds. Will more people attend RD at these parks knowing it's the only way to realistically rides both TT and Soarin?

Apparently! The only consistent advice is that rope drop is imperative now with the +.

 

[bcrook]

those two rides will carry the same number of passengers as they did a year ago.

If you can't ride them both in a day, it isn't because of tiered fast pass+ system.

Standby will also be the same time or longer. One can be a FP the other us standby. In the past, someone arriving to the park early could ride each attraction twice with a FP.

 

[photo_chick]

Nope. No functioning early risers in our crew....lol. We let them sleep in and usually stay until closing.

We used to be this way as well. On our last day at MK last trip we got there like 5 minutes after rope drop. We're now converts.

 

[Silock]

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

All along, the FP+ people have been saying how great it was to have this system because you didn't have to rope drop. You could sleep in and still ride all your rides.

Now, they're all saying that everyone SHOULD rope drop to ride all their rides.

I really don't get it.

 

[bcrook]

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

All along, the FP+ people have been saying how great it was to have this system because you didn't have to rope drop. You could sleep in and still ride all your rides.

Now, they're all saying that everyone SHOULD rope drop to ride all their rides.

I really don't get it.

Yup!

I have gone from hope in early 2012, to exasperation in 2013, to resignation in 2014. MyMagic "+" is here, and it is completely lacking in any excitement, "plus" or imagination. It is limiting and sad.

I hope Pandora is good in 2018. It's a long time in between highlights at wdw these days.

 

[DividedSky]

Standby will also be the same time or longer. One can be a FP the other us standby. In the past, someone arriving to the park early could ride each attraction twice with a FP.

I question the logic here.

less fast pass riders will speed up the stand by line, even if it is longer.

are less fast pass's being issued though, or are the same number being issues in a more equitable fashion?

that is the big question.

 

[bcrook]

I question the logic here.

less fast pass riders will speed up the stand by line, even if it is longer.

are less fast pass's being issued though, or are the same number being issues in a more equitable fashion?

that is the big question.

Disney is in effect collecting all the FP reservations and doling them out to people. They are using now as perceived treats and distributing them to people as incentives. People in the past who had no interest in grabbing a FP, are being given one.

To accomplish that, anybody showing up early Epcot early can only get one FP for TT or soarin. So tiers and FP+ have truly limited a significant portion of the population.

 

[DividedSky]

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

All along, the FP+ people have been saying how great it was to have this system because you didn't have to rope drop. You could sleep in and still ride all your rides.

Now, they're all saying that everyone SHOULD rope drop to ride all their rides.

I really don't get it.

"the fp+ people"



Did they reduce the total number of fast passes being issued on a given ride in a given day?

consider the implication of that question fully.

 

[DividedSky]

Disney is in effect collecting all the FP reservations and doling them out to people. They are using now as perceived treats and distributing them to people as incentives. People in the past who had no interest in grabbing a FP, are being given one.

To accomplish that, anybody showing up early Epcot early can only get one FP for TT or soarin. So tiers and FP+ have truly limited a significant portion of the population.

you completey avoided the question.

did they reduce the # of fast passes issued on TT?

yes or no.