Yet another Poly DVC speculation thread...

[skeeter31]

A few things to add, I guess.

#1 - I do think Poly DVC is forthcoming. Sort of a no-brainer, when every other Deluxe now has a DVC wing.

#2 - This also could be part of a Poly renovation. Just because they're planning DVC doesn't mean they also don't plan to renovate some areas of Poly.

#3 - Renovation of the Poly could follow the same patter as the Moderates, where "special" rooms were built. Ex. Pirate Rooms @ Caribbean, and Royal Rooms @ Riverside. No idea what the rooms @ Poly would be (Tiki Rooms???), but don't see why they'd stop the trend, when "room theming" seems to be the new thing at Disney.

Another example of room theming is the new Art of Animation resort. Massive room theming there!

I can't see them doing theme rooms at the Polynesian. It's a deluxe resort and that's the main draw of it anyway. The theme rooms at the moderates and values are aimed more at families. Whereas the deluxe resorts have the prestige of being higher end resorts and wouldn't need to add theme rooms to keep people coming back.

 

[Who's your Mickey?]

Really or is that toungue-in-cheek? Either it is or you haven't been around very long. I don't remember the last time there was only one for sale. Well, I do, but it was long before I was a DVC'er and quite a while ago.

Actually, it's pretty typical to be at least 2 all the time and usually 3 here lately. Did I miss something?

AKK is for sale now. I don't recall any official announcement that BLT was done, though many have claimed it's imminent sellout in 2-3 months for 2 years now. AFAIK, there are still points for sale at SSR for the THV. That makes 3 right now and at least 2 (if BLT is truly sold out which I seriously doubt).

EDIT: I apologize. I think I misread your post. I thought you meant 2 at the same time at WDW. I stand corrected because I think you meant 2 on the monorail resort/MK loop. that being the case, I agree, but only because there is only one right now. They wish the GF and the Poly were finished and you can bet your bottom dollar that if they were or could be, they'd glady pit them all three against one another at the same time. IMO, that would just make the price higher for all three.

That is exactly what I meant...

If they are still trying to sell GFV, I can't see them building sales competition for it right next door. AKV and Aulani will still likely be in heavy sales mode when GFV joins the party, so I understand that there will be multiple DVC properties offered. If the rumors about Poly being leveled in sections and rebuilt are true, it would be an ideal time to add a DVC component to the resort. Will it happen? Who knows. There's also the River Country DVC rumor to speculate on as well.

 

[Who's your Mickey?]

We would also add on at the Poly DVC, if/when it becomes a reality. It's arguably our favorite resort overall.

I shudder to think what the cost per point would be if it were to go on sale in 2 or 3 years- $200 per point? $220 per point?

GFV will likely hit the market at $200 per point. Poly cost per point will be based on whatever the market will bear at the time.

 

[disneynutz]

DVC is Disney's cash cow. Given the opportunity, they will build DVC rooms where ever they can.

I was told that Disney wants the AOA on line before they start working on the Poly.

Bill

 

[DVC Mike]

Since I already own at BLT, and the DW wants a small VGF add-on, I jus don't see me purchasing more points at the Poly when they add DVC there.

I'll already have enough points at MK resorts.

 

[JKnLydia]

It is highly unlikely that WDW will add to the monorail system. The construction costs would be astronomical. The cost/benefit ratio can't possibly match that of the bus sytem.

A CM once told me that they can only have so many trains on the monorail system as they can evacuate simultaneously. He told me they can handle 5 on the resort loop (CR, GF, T&T, Poly & MK are evac points), 5 on the express loop (same evac points) and 4 on the Epcot loop (T&T, Epcot and a mid loop evac point). He also said that due to load/unload timing, they normally do not run the maximum number of trains on the system. They usually run 3-4 on the resort loop, 3 on the express loop and 3 on the Epcot loop. Currently, WDW has 12 monorail trains.

Whether it's VIA monorail or something else, they'll need to upgrade the transportation to MK from the monorail resorts soon. I feel bad for the GF folks who see a loaded monorail pull up to their resort. Wouldn't make me happy if I was one of them.

Maybe they find a way to put in the bridge over the canal so you could walk from GF to MK?

 

[AllieV]

There's also the River Country DVC rumor to speculate on as well.

What river country rumor? Sorry it this is off-topic.

 

[goldenears]

What river country rumor? Sorry it this is off-topic.

There is another thread around here somewhere with speculation of a DVC at Fort Wilderness Campground.

 

[lisareniff]

Maybe they find a way to put in the bridge over the canalso you could walk from GF to MK?

This seems like a no brainer to me and have wondered over the years why they haven't done it. It seems like it would really help the transportation situation. It would of course have to be a draw bridge to accommodate the EWP but having the bridge unusable for an hour or so a day doesn't seem so bad (or two 15 minute sessions). The Poly wouldn't be so long a walk either.

 

[Sammie]

This seems like a no brainer to me and have wondered over the years why they haven't done it. It seems like it would really help the transportation situation. It would of course have to be a draw bridge to accommodate the EWP but having the bridge unusable for an hour or so a day doesn't seem so bad (or two 15 minute sessions). The Poly wouldn't be so long a walk either.

They would also have to provide cast members when opening and closing the bridge.

This is not a very attractive area and I don't think Disney would want it to be seen on a regular basis by guests from the GF.

Plus people already complain about the walk from Kidani to Jambo if you look at any aerial maps of that area, it would be a very long walk.

 

[Sammie]

I so hope you're correct!

I think it is simply a matter of time.

 

[bookwormde]

There is a lot of room between poly and the race track. My guess is that they will reroute the public road close to the racetrack and put most of the DVC on the south side of the monorail track. DVC knows that thay do to have to provide rooms with the best views, so that would also allow them to go up to more floors since it would not block other building views.

 

[disneynutz]

There is a lot of room between poly and the race track. My guess is that they will reroute the public road close to the racetrack and put most of the DVC on the south side of the monorail track. DVC knows that thay do to have to provide rooms with the best views, so that would also allow them to go up to more floors since it would not block other building views.

IMO it's more about finding space for the building than providing views. DVC buyers are interested in being part of a club with the majority buying without even knowing what they are buying.

BCV, VWL, and OKW are not really known for their views compared to the Boardwalk Views at BWV or BLT.

Bill

 

[DVC Mike]

IMO it's more about finding space for the building than providing views. DVC buyers are interested in being part of a club with the majority buying without even knowing what they are buying.

BCV, VWL, and OKW are not really known for their views compared to the Boardwalk Views at BWV or BLT.

Bill

A Poly DVC without some great views of the Seven Seas Lagoon would not interest me at all.

 

[disneynutz]

A Poly DVC without some great views of the Seven Seas Lagoon would not interest me at all.

We have talked to more than one new owner who thinks that BCV has a view of Crescent Lake!

Bill

 

[Dean]

That is exactly what I meant...

If they are still trying to sell GFV, I can't see them building sales competition for it right next door. AKV and Aulani will still likely be in heavy sales mode when GFV joins the party, so I understand that there will be multiple DVC properties offered. If the rumors about Poly being leveled in sections and rebuilt are true, it would be an ideal time to add a DVC component to the resort. Will it happen? Who knows. There's also the River Country DVC rumor to speculate on as well.

GFV will likely hit the market at $200 per point. Poly cost per point will be based on whatever the market will bear at the time.

I doubt it'll be that high. Given that the resort is slated to open in about 1.5 years and pre-sales likely by Jan or before, I wouldn't be surprised (actually expect) that the current price or one price increase gets us to that point. I'd estimate it will the around 18 months to sell out, maybe a little more if they jack up the points per unit in any way. GF would be sold out before the Poly could even hope to be ready. HI won't offer any deterrent to on property and it will take a while to sell at current rates. River Country might slow them down though the reverse is more likely, that they'd hold up an isolated option in favor of the Poly OR work on them both expecting the Poly to sell soon anyway. As you say, all speculation except for the GF.

 

[lisareniff]

They would also have to provide cast members when opening and closing the bridge.

This is not a very attractive area and I don't think Disney would want it to be seen on a regular basis by guests from the GF.

Plus people already complain about the walk from Kidani to Jambo if you look at any aerial maps of that area, it would be a very long walk.

They would only have to pay for 2 CMs for 2 hours each. This is really a cheap altermative to the monorail, bus or boat options who require at least a driver constantly along with support personnel and an energy source.

I was curious about the distance. Since we are a family that enjoys a walk it looked fine to me. Most responses on the board indicate that people think the walk from BLT to MK is short and preferable. The distance from BLT to MK is 0.5 miles with a stop light where the distance from GF to MK is only 0.1 mile more.

As far as the view from the path. That I really don't know since I haven't been down there, but they could make it work if they wanted to.

 

[spiceycat]

steve say that the Polyn was having a major overhaul in 2013 back in Oct - and I see no reason to doubt him - he is generally right on the Polyn. Now when in 2013 is the question - considering his plans showed the entire resort being redone.

 

[Who's your Mickey?]

Whether it's VIA monorail or something else, they'll need to upgrade the transportation to MK from the monorail resorts soon. I feel bad for the GF folks who see a loaded monorail pull up to their resort. Wouldn't make me happy if I was one of them.

Maybe they find a way to put in the bridge over the canal so you could walk from GF to MK?

It can't be that hard. It would have to be a drawbridge (like at Epcot) because they store the EWP barges back there. The only thing I can see being an issue would be permitting. Wetlands or whatever the case might be.