Yet another Poly DVC speculation thread...

[ryels]

Another Disney news site (not sure if I'm allowed to link it) has pictures taken this morning of line-of-sight balloons over at the Poly. These are the type of balloons that Disney uses before they start planning some sort of construction

Not sure exactly what it means but...let the excessive speculation begin!

 

[spiceycat]

the polyn is being redone - that is on the schedule - if it includes a DVC or not is the question.

 

[Who's your Mickey?]

Another Disney news site (not sure if I'm allowed to link it) has pictures taken this morning of line-of-sight balloons over at the Poly. These are the type of balloons that Disney uses before they start planning some sort of construction

Not sure exactly what it means but...let the excessive speculation begin!

There have been all sorts of rumors regarding the Poly. Some that DVC was coming, others that it was going to be leveled in sections and rebuilt to modern code standards. Until something happens, I'm not even gonna guess...

 

[Sammie]

My guess is, they will eventually do a major update to the Polynesian, they almost have to, due to many years of problems.

And yes it will include DVC at some time.

That is my guess.

 

[spiceycat]

do you think they will still have the nice big rooms - or would their size in the new Polyn be less than the GF???

don't think they (Polyn) would be so popular if that happened.

 

[vandy]

I'm sure Disney has plans for a DVC at Poly, the question is whether or not they implement them. My guess is they will see how sales at the DVC at the Grand Floridian go before they make the final decision on the Poly. Key word here is 'sales'. Most of us will love to stay at the GF, but how many will actually buy. I guess time will tell.

 

[jerivera]

This will be interesting. A lot of folk would love to buy DVC at the Poly.

 

[YankeePrincess]

Oh if there is ever a Poly DVC I will be first in line to buy points! That is my favorite resort!!

 

[mickeys girl 52]

Oh if there is ever a Poly DVC I will be first in line to buy points! That is my favorite resort!!

Me too But I do love my Beach Club

 

[Who's your Mickey?]

My guess is, they will eventually do a major update to the Polynesian, they almost have to, due to many years of problems.

And yes it will include DVC at some time.

That is my guess.

But not anytime soon. With GFV under construction, it's gonna be a while before they add DVC to Poly. I can't see them selling 2 MK DVC resorts at the same time. If sales at GFV match the run rate at BLT, a DVC resort at Poly will be a no brainer. If GFV struggles, that could scuttle a Poly DVC resort.

 

[Sammie]

But not anytime soon. With GFV under construction, it's gonna be a while before they add DVC to Poly. I can't see them selling 2 MK DVC resorts at the same time. If sales at GFV match the run rate at BLT, a DVC resort at Poly will be a no brainer. If GFV struggles, that could scuttle a Poly DVC resort.

yep

 

[tjkraz]

But not anytime soon. With GFV under construction, it's gonna be a while before they add DVC to Poly. I can't see them selling 2 MK DVC resorts at the same time. If sales at GFV match the run rate at BLT, a DVC resort at Poly will be a no brainer. If GFV struggles, that could scuttle a Poly DVC resort.

IF (when) work begins at the Poly, it will be designed to incorporate DVC villas. Two things to bear in mind:

1) The lead time on hotel construction is 2.5 years and up
2) There is no mandate that DVC villas be included in the initial phase

In other words, from the time the wrecking ball arrives at the Poly, villas could still be 3...5...7 years off.

In all likelihood villas would be part of the initial phase but not necessarily all of them. Similar to Aulani, they could open a few dozen Villas at the Poly early on and then schedule additional villas to come on-line months or years down the road.

Grand Floridian is scheduled to open in late 2013. Given the scope of a Poly re-build, if work began tomorrow (which it won't), it would be mid-2015 before rooms are available. That alone is a pretty fair separation. But expect it to grow since Poly planning is still under way and the Fort Wilderness project remains in the mix.

 

[sweetdana]

I did hear there were aged issues at the Poly, and updates halted a while ago. I am certain both a rebuilt Poly and a DVC Poly will happen in the next couple years. They need to redo the pools, add hot tubs, and have help off on updating, so the only logical thing is a total tear down and rebuild. Fancy pools, bigger seating for show, maybe some wedding stuff on the beach. Take up more room even to T and T, with wasted beautiful beach space.

They are building limited at GF, both for space, and exclusivity. I assume they will demolish the Poly, rebuild the paying side of Poly 1st, with plans inline for DVC. Once complete start the "DVC side", makes sence with time.

SSR will sell out this yr, it has in many months, AK can be the "discounted" DVC, may take just as long or longer to run out. ..GF will sell out within 3 years, assuming size is as small as shown. Assuming it will take time to get started on plans, building time, and they will complete the resort 1st; it will be up and running when GF is just about out of points, or at most a year away.



I wouldn't consider GF, and would prolly would aim for an inital buy in at the Poly. (If they added a hot tub.) There are just as many that felt that same way about BLT, and feel the same way about GF. So although there would be 1-2 yrs between them, they will not take as many buyers away from GF, even with the thoughts... Hey Poly is under construction maybe a DVC is coming, (they won't make it official for many many moons.) They need to figure out for sure what they are doing next, and this would make sense.

 

[AllieV]

Any idea if there'd be new/more monorail lines to handle all these additional people? With BLT, it must be overcrowded already. GF will only add more bodies.

 

[pmaurer74]

After spending all of these years on the boards, the Poly seems by far the most popular resort. I think a DVC there is a no brainer. I would buy in if my DH didn't hate the Poly so much!

 

[Who's your Mickey?]

Any idea if there'd be new/more monorail lines to handle all these additional people? With BLT, it must be overcrowded already. GF will only add more bodies.

It is highly unlikely that WDW will add to the monorail system. The construction costs would be astronomical. The cost/benefit ratio can't possibly match that of the bus sytem.

A CM once told me that they can only have so many trains on the monorail system as they can evacuate simultaneously. He told me they can handle 5 on the resort loop (CR, GF, T&T, Poly & MK are evac points), 5 on the express loop (same evac points) and 4 on the Epcot loop (T&T, Epcot and a mid loop evac point). He also said that due to load/unload timing, they normally do not run the maximum number of trains on the system. They usually run 3-4 on the resort loop, 3 on the express loop and 3 on the Epcot loop. Currently, WDW has 12 monorail trains.

 

[jerivera]

A few things to add, I guess.

#1 - I do think Poly DVC is forthcoming. Sort of a no-brainer, when every other Deluxe now has a DVC wing.

#2 - This also could be part of a Poly renovation. Just because they're planning DVC doesn't mean they also don't plan to renovate some areas of Poly.

#3 - Renovation of the Poly could follow the same patter as the Moderates, where "special" rooms were built. Ex. Pirate Rooms @ Caribbean, and Royal Rooms @ Riverside. No idea what the rooms @ Poly would be (Tiki Rooms???), but don't see why they'd stop the trend, when "room theming" seems to be the new thing at Disney.

Another example of room theming is the new Art of Animation resort. Massive room theming there!

 

[rentayenta]

My guess is, they will eventually do a major update to the Polynesian, they almost have to, due to many years of problems.

And yes it will include DVC at some time.

That is my guess.

I so hope you're correct!

 

[WilsonFlyer]

But not anytime soon. With GFV under construction, it's gonna be a while before they add DVC to Poly. I can't see them selling 2 MK DVC resorts at the same time. If sales at GFV match the run rate at BLT, a DVC resort at Poly will be a no brainer. If GFV struggles, that could scuttle a Poly DVC resort.

Really or is that toungue-in-cheek? Either it is or you haven't been around very long. I don't remember the last time there was only one for sale. Well, I do, but it was long before I was a DVC'er and quite a while ago.

Actually, it's pretty typical to be at least 2 all the time and usually 3 here lately. Did I miss something?

AKK is for sale now. I don't recall any official announcement that BLT was done, though many have claimed it's imminent sellout in 2-3 months for 2 years now. AFAIK, there are still points for sale at SSR for the THV. That makes 3 right now and at least 2 (if BLT is truly sold out which I seriously doubt).

EDIT: I apologize. I think I misread your post. I thought you meant 2 at the same time at WDW. I stand corrected because I think you meant 2 on the monorail resort/MK loop. that being the case, I agree, but only because there is only one right now. They wish the GF and the Poly were finished and you can bet your bottom dollar that if they were or could be, they'd glady pit them all three against one another at the same time. IMO, that would just make the price higher for all three.

 

[ryels]

We would also add on at the Poly DVC, if/when it becomes a reality. It's arguably our favorite resort overall.

I shudder to think what the cost per point would be if it were to go on sale in 2 or 3 years- $200 per point? $220 per point?