yachtsman

[montessori]

Originally posted by Bob NC
Pay no attention to that, last time I was there there were kids running around everywhere. A couple of them even bumped into our table. Some were yelling, some were crying, there were all kinds of kids there. Don't fret about taking children to YSH.

I hear you. Bob! I have too much to say right now and no time to say it.
Thanks to Wilma and PA too.

 

[A kid at heart]

Yachtsmans Steakhouse is that kind of restaurant. We DID take our 12 year old there and he was fine, but after an hour, he had enough and wanted to go back in our room and in his sweats. I don't think we have enough consideration for adults anymore. Children are the light of my eye, but they belong in their pjs after a certain hour after traipsing through WDW for 7 hours straight. We, as parents and caregivers, set the limits, and see to it that our children are well cared for and rested for another day at the most wonderful place on earth!! Enough said...and I'm sure I'll get hell for this too!

Not all kids are ones to go to bed early. Mine for instance are late bed goers and I had yet to have a problem with them in a restaurant. In fact this past trip in sep we ate at the concourse steakhouse at 9 pma nd I even got a compliment on how well behaved my DD was. Not all kids are like this and yes it is up to the parents to control their kids and if they are indeed tired then they should have them take naps in the afternoon or dine earlier, but to say that all kids shoudl dine at 5-6 pm is ludicrous. \And no thank you, you can stick to the mickey D's while in disney. I will eat wherever I want with my child/children and at whatever time I deem, whether or not its early or late. You have no right to tell anyone that they should or have to eat at 5-6 pm. Maybe thats your time to eat, but its not ours. And if you don't want to eat at a place where there are kids, then go to an adults restaurant only. And Yes Disney is indeed a family oriented place and yes people do and will continue to bring their kids to any restaurant that they dang well please. I can only imagine what kind of a nursery school teacher you must be when you have a cranky child.

(I am a nursery school teacher of 2 year olds and I know how a child acts when they are overtired. It's not a pleasant )

yeesh. chill out wilma. And like you said YEARS ago ,get with the times, they have changed!
YS is merely a steakhouse,a place to eat, and if they didn't want kids, then they wouldn't have a kids menu, nor would they welcome them into the establishment.

I do however agree that people who let their kids run wild in a restaurant need a lesson in dining etiquette, but you cannnot lump all parents with kids in that category.

 

[montessori]

Originally posted by A kid at heart

"I even got a compliment on how well behaved my DD was."
That's wonderful! I think we can all agree that there are some children who are delightful dinner companions.

"Not all kids are like this and yes it is up to the parents to control their kids."
Unfortunately, this is where the problem lies. Many parents DO NOT KNOW HOW to control their children and many parents CAN"T BE BOTHERED controlling their children. Why they seem to follow me around, I don't know!!!

" And if you don't want to eat at a place where there are kids, then go to an adults restaurant only."
I don't think there are any "adults only" restaurants...anywhere. Restaurants have to rely on the good judgement of their patrons to insure that ALL the diners in the restaurant have a pleasurable dining experience. Grown-ups shouldn't be loud and boistorous in such establishments either.
IT IS THE PARENTS RESPONSIBILTY TO MAKE SURE THE CHILDREN BEHAVE APPROPRIATELY!

"And Yes Disney is indeed a family oriented place and yes people do and will continue to bring their kids to any restaurant that they dang well please."
I have no doubt about this. Just as parents will bring their children to "R" rated movies and into smoke filled bars, if they dang well please.
Disney is a family oriented place, there's something for everyone at Disney World. If you have a rambunctious or over-tired and cranky child, there are many different dining options available to you. Remember, we are talking about children crying, yelling, using their silverware as drumsticks, running around the restaurant, throwing things etc.. AND we are talking about an expensive restaurant, a place people come to with certain expectations about the dining experience they are going to have for $30 a plate.

"And like you said YEARS ago, get with the times, they have changed!"
Times have changed...parenting skills have gone downhill. Common courtesy and good manners don't mean much to some people anymore.

"YS is merely a steakhouse,a place to eat, and if they didn't want kids, then they wouldn't have a kids menu, nor would they welcome them into the establishment. "
Of course children are welcome in the restaurant. IT IS THE PARENTS RESPONSIBILTY TO MAKE SURE THE CHILDREN BEHAVE APPROPRIATELY. No one has an issue with well-behaved children eating in the restaurant!

Here's a good example of one mother's "parenting skills". This happened in a restaurant in my hometown.
The table had 4 adults (all woman) and 3 children. The children were maybe 4, 2 and 10 months. The 4 and 2 year old ran around for a while while one adult chased them and yelled at them. The other 3 adults were busy drinking their tall Bass ales and chatting away. The baby alternated between sitting in a stroller and taking an occasional crawl around and under the table.
Soon enough one of the tall beer glasses was knocked to the floor, shattered glass and beer everywhere! The servers mopped and swept and somehow kept a smile on their faces. BUT, when the mother put the baby down to crawl around again, the server reminded her that there could still be glass on the floor and offered to bring her a high chair. No, she was fine. A few minutes later, the baby was crawling around again! The owner actually had to bring the high chair over and sternly suggest the baby sit in it.
To top the evening off, when we were leaving, these "mothers" were all standing around outside having a cigarette. The baby was in the stroller but the other 2 were running around the parking lot!

This is just one example of parents doing what they dang well please. To function well in society, we are not allowed to do whatever we please and parents need to teach this to their children starting at a very early age.
But, who's going to teach the parents?

 

[Wilma Flintstone]

I agree with you about McDonalds--sorry about that!
Your last paragraph puts it in proper perspective.
One thing though, Disney will offer a "kid's menu" for one reason alone: $$$$$$$. There are so many restaurants that children are the norm at Disney. Don't forget, I'm a Disney lover who happens to be a Mom also. We ate in restaurants there when my son was 4, 6, 7, 10, 11, 12, 15 and 17. We chose an appropriate time to eat (no later than 6:30 to start) and an appropriate restaurant. I was just trying to make a point about Yachtsmans (Artist Point too). These eating establishments are touted as somewhat "adult-oriented" . what with "Chateaubriand For Two" and "Maple Glazed Salmon on an Oak Plank"--both going for $28 and up.
People are on vacation and should adhere to common sense. Would you take your small child to a nice, adult-oriented restaurant at home after their normal bedtime?
Would you like it if--while you and your hubby are having a well-deserved dinner out at Disney (no children), plan an 8:30 P.M. priority seating at a "grown-up Disney" restaurant--and find yourself next to a family with 1 or 2 overtired, cranky children who totally destroy your wonderful (and expensive) evening??
There are always exceptions to the rule. I have literally complimented families with children who know the simple rules of dining out, who are not tired and who are enjoying their meals.
I felt your comment about my nursery school abilities to be a bit mean and uncalled-for. After all, I'm on THEIR side, really, in all this. And, after all, this IS a discussion board.
Montessori, thanks for clarifying some of those remarks.
Maybe I'm looking at this from the other side of the fence, now that my son is 17+. And, again, I'm sure I'll get hell for this statement as well. --Wilma

 

[LvsTnk]

How did this turn into a debate on parenting skills? I was honestly looking for reviews on Yachtman's. Can't decide between YSH and Schula's.

 

[montessori]

Originally posted by LvsTnk
How did this turn into a debate on parenting skills? I was honestly looking for reviews on Yachtman's. Can't decide between YSH and Schula's.

Hi Laurie,
Some threads do seem to take on a life of their own!

I guess I would choose Shula's over YS, the steaks are quite good and there are less children there!

I don't know your particular circumstances but I recommend Flying Fish over Shula's and YS for a fantastic steak!

 

[SamanthaL]

Wow, huh? Iwillbe dining at the YS at 5;30 during our Nov trip. I will have my 3 1/2 yo in tow. If she seems to be having a hard time before the PS I will cancel if not we will attend.
I was just hoping to find out how people like it at the YS (food Wise).
I do not eat steaks so I was hoping for other suggestions.

 

[Pa@okw95]

This thread started out as a review of two restaurants and then someone said they were going to YS before the Illuminations with two little children that have been known to act up and the person asked if we thought if it was a good idea. I have to say I have moved my seat many times over kids out of control in what we would all agree are family style restaurants. I hope I never have to face that problem in some of the finer restaurants anywhere even WDW. I would think nothing of asking for a seat far away from the problem and if none were available I would leave and only pay for what was served. If the meal was in the process of being cooked the restaurant would be out of luck. When we ate at Artist Point I asked for a seat that was not near any children. There was a family with 3 small children going in ahead of me. When I was done eating there were children everywhere but all were well behaved as they should be or else they (one parent ) should leave with them and have the meal put in a take out container. But when you have people that are going to eat anywhere they (dang please) with out of control children there will be a problem if I am there, that you can be sure of. It is up to the restaurants to handle these inconsiderate customers if they do not know any better, either way I will not pay for my meal with a little child yelling a screaming near me.

 

[LvsTnk]

Sorry my last meal at FF was not the best (Labor Day Weekend) I actually wanted to spit my food out. I was very surprised by this but in all fairness I did not order fish or the steak. I ordered a special and I like just about anything but this was Not good.

I will no doubt dine there again just not this trip lol! I guess we will try Yachtsman but be warned I do have three children. Don't freak out when you see them they love fine dining and are very well behaved.

 

[Wilma Flintstone]

Hi--what did you order at FF and not enjoy?
Usually the specials are just that--special...just maybe not that time!
Have fun at YS. --Wilma

 

[Jon99]

Slinky dogg- We too had our after wedding dinner at the Yachtsman and it was WONDERFUL!!!!! We had 38 people (4 kids under the age of 4) reserved for a 6:00 Sunday eating, we were seated at two tables that were parallel to each other in the back corner so we had people only to the one side of us, the isolation was nice as we didn't feel we were bothering people.. At first we were told that we would need to order from 3 items off the menu and would need to let them know of the three choices 48 hours prior, but they changed that and everyone ordered from the menu.. Whenever we see somebody that was at the wedding, the dinner is ALWAYS mentioned as the highlite of the day, even before the ceremony itself..

 

[RIDISNEYLOVERS]

Yes, I am the one that said we have a PS before our Illuminations cruise and are bringing two 2 1/2 year olds and an 8 month old.

Let me clarify something - they are good kids - they are 2 1/2!! They DON'T run around the restaurant, they do visit others that are dining in our group. Another thing is they don't sit in their highchairs until their dinner comes they usually sit on our laps and color, play peek-a-boo, etc. or visit other family members dining with us. We do this so they are not restricted to one area for the entire time. They usually don't cry (or scream) but they do talk loud to each other and laugh and giggle together. Every now and again their sippy cup will fall off the table because they knock it down by accident and they sometimes have a little bit of a mess under their seats because they are still trying to master their basic eating habilts with silverware instead of using their fingers. (We ALWAYS clean up under their seats before we leave the restaurant - we NEVER leave a mess for the restaurant to clean up!!).

Lisa

 

[SamanthaL]

I don't think you need to justify anything to anyone RIDISNEYLOVER. As long as they are not rude and butting in on others dining experience don't worry about it. If screaming starts just have one parent leave. My DD NEVER screams but if she gets too ornery I take her out. Once she sees it won't work she stops.
As long as you use good judgement you will be fine.

 

[Slinky_dogg]

HI!~
UMMM actually this post was started by me and wasnt to review 2 restaraunts,it was to ask everyone if I made the right choice in changing to YS for my wedding dinner. I didnt mean for it to get envaded with complaints and arguements. Point is you guys it's Disney World... THE happiest place on earth why belittle that by agruing about kids there, the belong there just as much as we do.Thats how most of us fell in love with it...as kids.
So just relax people it'll be okay.
Thankx to those who helped me out.

BYE

 

[SamanthaL]

Well said slinkydog. Have a great wedding.

 

[Wilma Flintstone]

You are right on target to remind us all that it is such a wonderful place for children--of ALL ages. And you put things in a new perspective for me as well.
I think I just got carried away thinking it was your WEDDING DINNER, and that, indeed, is so very special.
Yachtsmans Steakhouse is a great choice, as my DH, 12 year-old son and I enjoyed fantastic food and ambience there.
Best wishes on your wedding, honeymoon and "ever after."
All the best, Wilma

 

[tammydel]

Hi all.

If the restaurant debate isn't completely done:

I'd love to add my 2 cents.

My husband and I ate at Shula's. Very, very good meal, very expensive, very grown up atmosphere. I would highly reccomend it for a "grown up" night out. There was a young lady with her parents at another table, maybe 9, all dressed up, looked like a special night out for her.
I can't imagine many children are brought there. Not much for them to enjoy-except if they're a Dolphins fan.?!? But I can't imagine that either!(we are Jets fans

 

[LvsTnk]

Originally posted by Slinky_dogg
HI!~
UMMM actually this post was started by me and wasnt to review 2 restaraunts,it was to ask everyone if I made the right choice in changing to YS for my wedding dinner. I didnt mean for it to get envaded with complaints and arguements. Point is you guys it's Disney World... THE happiest place on earth why belittle that by agruing about kids there, the belong there just as much as we do.Thats how most of us fell in love with it...as kids.
So just relax people it'll be okay.
Thankx to those who helped me out.

BYE

Did you try posting this on the Weddings Board?

 

[Blade]

I don't want to step on any toes and I know restaurants have their bad days. DW and I went to Yachtsman this past Tues(10/29) and I thought it was terrible. I order the T-Bone and it was small and tasted lousy. I order the Oysters Rockefeller(never had before) for an appetizer and there were bits of shells in it and when I told our waiter he was indifferent. I know how certain meats should taste and look, but what I got was crap. We won't be going back there.

Now, just for comparsion we decided to try Shula's. I ordered the same things, Oysters and T-Bone. The oysters were out of this world, they were soooooooo much better at Shula's. Now the beef, what I received is what I'm used to getting at a fine steak house. It was night and day, Shula's blew Yachtsman out of the water. We loved Shula's so much, we went back the next night.

Shula's wasn't that much more $$$ than Yachtsman. But, it was so much better.

Maybe it was a bad night at Yachtsman, but the way the service was I'll never go back.

AJ

 

[Wilma Flintstone]

Thanks for the big thumbs-up for Shula's. Sometimes a memory of a place/dinner can overshadow its recent performances.
It's been awhile that I ate there, so your review has me very intrigued.
An Islander fan from L.I.
Wilma