wwyd regarding incident in school

[fortheluvofpooh]

DS is in 7th grade and the boy mentioned in this post we have known since they were both in pre-K.
DS had his foot resting on the metal rung of "S"s chair, when suddenly S grabbed his own pencil and stabbed DS in the foot! Through the shoe and into the foot. DS yelled and the teacher who is a sub today, said what happened, DS said S stabbed me, the teacher said to S "why did you do that?" and he said cause "T(my ds) had his foot on my chair" and the teacher said "oh okay". That was it! no trip to the nurse for DS not disciplinarian action for S. SO I took DS to urgent care to have the graphite removed from his foot after school and the urgent care is faxing the bill to the school. I also have a note requesting removal of S from sitting near DS and requested that the proper disciplinary action be taken. We have had minor issues with S since prek but never anything physical. Do you think this incident would fall under the 0 tollerance article?


ETA there are witnesses that can attest to this.

 

[java]

There is a boy in our school that ended up in juvie for STABBING a child with a pencil. I would speak with the superintendant and put everything in writing. I hope he is feeling ok. I just posted my middle school problem- it's hormones. They act like morons sometimes.

 

[Deb & Bill]

Your son wasn't doing anything at all to antagonize the other boy? Maybe doing more than just resting his foot on the other boy's chair?

 

[luvmy3]

I would say that S physically assaulted your child and a call to the authorities as well as the school are in order. It would have been one thing to push your child's feet off of the chair but S decided to stab him which requied an urgent care visit. Press charges and have this S removed from school.

 

[ireland_nicole]

Wow; I am dumbfounded. I would take that bill w/ me to the principals office in the am and demand that appropriate action be taken; not only in relation to "S" but in relation to the Subsitute as well. Very concerning. I hope your son is ok

 

[fortheluvofpooh]

Your son wasn't doing anything at all to antagonize the other boy? Maybe doing more than just resting his foot on the other boy's chair?

not that warranted being stabbed.We have witnesses that will attest to this.

 

[Serena]

Ummm, I think stabbing someone in the foot with a pencil does warrant more than an "oh, ok".

But then maybe I'm just foolish.

 

[mickeysgal]

Holy cow - a pencil went through a shoe without breaking? Did it destroy the shoe as well? I'd submit that bill as well.

 

[fortheluvofpooh]

Holy cow - a pencil went through a shoe without breaking? Did it destroy the shoe as well? I'd submit that bill as well.

it did go through the shoe, sock and into his foot. There is a small puncture mark on the shoe but fortunately the sneaker is a soft sided sneaker, or should I say unfortunately.

 

[TheDisneyGirl02]

I would call the office first thing in the morning and ask to speak to the principal. That is not right what happened to your son. That sub needs to be told that what happened warrants more than just an 'oh okay'. I would also make sure that the regular classroom teacher is notified about what happened.

Please let us know what happens.

 

[Eeyores Butterfly]

Go in tomorrow and ask to speak to the principal in person. Let them know exactly what happened. Get names from your son of any kids who witnessed the incident.

I remember being a sub last year and having a kid punch another kid in the middle of class (4th grade!) There were three kids around and nobody saw it. I had never been told what was procedure for that type of thing. I took the boy to the nurse and the other boy to the principal, but it definitely threw me for a loop. As a sub, all I did was fill out an application. I would literally show up at the school and go where they told me. No tour of where things are, no briefing on policies, just what the teacher left me in their notes- if they left notes.

This is not to excuse the sub's actions, obviously more should have been done, just trying to give you a sub's perspective. Did your son make it clear that he had actually been stabbed? Maybe the sub was under hte impression that he poked or prodded your son's foot and did not realize how serious it was. I would hope that this is this case and not that the sub wantonly ignored your son's injury.

 

[sunnyday123]

I would be ripping the doors off that school. That other kid would be out of there, asap. That is assault, plain and simple and I don't care if your DS was kicking his chair, he does not have the right to stab your son with a pencil.

When I was little I broke a pencil off in my leg and it hurt like H E double hockey sticks when they dug it out. I still have a mark on my leg that looks like a dot of graphite.

I am just absolutely horrified that this occured and the sub didn't do anything.

 

[MoniqueU]

Ordinarily I am a mind your own business and go with the flow person but I think you need to go talk to the principal tomorrow. If the authorities need to be called let them do it.
I am sorry that happened to your son, that is horrible. And that kid must have some anger issues real bad to do that much damage through a shoe with a pencil.

 

[kimmikayb]

Isn't this assault? Sign of aggression? Knowing me, I'd probably call the police then march into the school.

 

[Rella Bella]

It's so sad. I hope your son has no long term effects from this injury.

Boys at this age can be so unpredictable. A few weeks ago DS and his football team were having a party and apparently several boys started teasing another boy. The boy started to get mad and despite several trying to calm him down he lost it, picked up a LaCross stick and started swinging. My DS got his so hard across the back that the marks were there almost a week later.

It scares me to death to think what could have happened if he had hit someone that hard in the head!

I made LOTS of calls, but the school would not take up an issue that happened off school grounds at a non-school event. If DS injury had been more than a welt I would have pressed charges.
I think your son's injury is much more serious... it's amazing to think things can get so out of hand, and so quickly!

I am just absolutely horrified that this occured and the sub didn't do anything.

I totally agree... unacceptable!

 

[Eeyores Butterfly]

Rella: Was this a school sponsored football team and party? If so then the school is responsible and liable.

If it is a non-school sponosred team, or if it was not an official team function (jsut something put together by the players and/or parents) then the school has no control. The school cannot punish kids for what goes on outside of the school and its sponsored functions.

 

[Rella Bella]

Rella: Was this a school sponsored football team and party? If so then the school is responsible and liable.

If it is a non-school sponosred team, or if it was not an official team function (just something put together by the players and/or parents) then the school has no control. The school cannot punish kids for what goes on outside of the school and its sponsored functions.

It was a school sponsored team, and the party was a "view the week's game film" pizza party. After the film the adults sent all the boys down stairs unattended, (honestly, you would think 12 & 13 year olds could be left alone).

I believe it was an assault, we have photos. But I hesitate to give a 12 year old a record... especially one we've known since Kindergarten. If his injury had required treatment I would have made a different call.

Thanks for caring.

 

[Eeyores Butterfly]

At least the school has been made aware of the situation. They should have done more, and you could certainly pursue it if you wanted to. That's a tough decision. I'm glad your son is okay.

 

[java]

apparently several boys started teasing another boy.

I'm not saying that hitting others with a Lax stick is a good solution. But I can understand a boy in that situation feeling out of control and reacting. Not that it is right but I understand him feeling like enough is enough.

But I am so with you on the pencil stabbing. Good luck with getting results today. I am making my own calls this morning.

 

[DawnCt1]

DS#3 still has a gray dot in the middle of his back when his friend stabbed him with a pencil in middle school. I never knew until he was swimming in the summer and I asked about it. Unfortunately kids have been poking each other for years with pencils. Now I understand this was a "stab" but I think that there is a middle ground here; something between "oh, okay" and "tearing off the doors of the school and getting the kid thrown out". I would call the school, have them pay the bill and have the seat moved. I would also want the parent of the other child notified and a response; written apology from the kid, etc. But calling in the authorities and having the kid hauled off to court is too extreme.