jaybirdsmommy
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We have 75hours of mandatory service-learning in our state as a graduation requirement. I personally love this because the whole family can get involved, but it is not feasible for all families. The schools allow some of it to get done at school with class and after school projects that help the community, but I am not sure what that involves. They start in middle school. I think one of the volunteer opportunities was over the summer and included transportation to and from the venues.Not really homework but my kids high school required 100 hours of community service over the four years to graduate. The school had a number of options that they had set up, or you choose your own, but it had to be approved by the school. Some parents were upset by that requirement. If your child was not yet 16, an adult had to go with them to supervise at a number of places. My daughter volunteered at the Food Bank, the Homeless Shelter and the Salvation Army. All were from the schools list of pre-approved places I went on all of hers. My son found his own, coaching Junior High flag football in the parochial league. That one did not require an adult present, and was near our house, I just had to get him there. They practiced for two hours four days a week after school, and had a 2 hour game every Friday. He got an extra rope on his Graduation robe because he did about four times the community service hours he needed.
My now grad school daugher was being taught common core math processes in middle school. The process to complete fairly simple operations was intensly complicated and was very prone to create errors.
I met with the teacher and explained that, as a managing engineer, if I ever caught any of my junior engineers trying to do math this way, I'd instantly fire them. It's a waste of time and overyly complicates easy problems creating massive opportunity for error.
She couldn't grasp what a complete boondoggle common core math was. Argued with me about it's benefits saying that knowing the process was more important than the result.
SMH
It wanted them to understand or even acknoledge my concern. All I got back was arrogant push-back.I'm curious what it was you expected the classroom teacher to do about it. She was mandated by the school board, the local or more likely state board, to teach a particular curriculum or set of standards. What was complaining to her going to accomplish?
That assignment sounds impossible. What were students whose family couldn't sign supposed to do be silent all weekend? Pretending to be deaf in public is offensive to people who are actually deaf. How did you manage that weekend?My son took 2 years of ASL in high school as his foreign language. During the spring semester of his first year, our son had a "deaf" weekend. He could not speak verbally, only through signs. We could not speak verbally to him or even in his presence. We knew very limited signs, and it was horrible. Of course, we had a super busy weekend! He had a swim meet, a family birthday party that weekend.
DH was irate and refused to participate. Our son is a rule follower and was so stressed about the whole thing. It was horrible!
I actually like this assignment to be honest with you. If the family knew it was coming up they could learn some sign. Also there are other ways to communicate. Years ago I took an adult ed class to learn sign language. (as someone who is very hard of hearing I may need this one day). Our last class - we went out to dinner and we were only allowed to sign. This was in the Washington DC area which has a large Deaf population. We went to a restaurant where there were Deaf waiters. The restaurant and staff appreciated what we were trying to do and we were very welcomed. I agree that some may find it offensive but not all.That assignment sounds impossible. What were students whose family couldn't sign supposed to do be silent all weekend? Pretending to be deaf in public is offensive to people who are actually deaf. How did you manage that weekend?
Just curious, how old were you and which method did you use?I still have nightmares thinking of when we were asked to solve for Pi. Weren't given instructions to only go to so many lengths etc. I stayed up real late for that. I think I stopped when I covered the whole piece of paper and then rounded. Not sure where my mom was to check what I was doing to stop me - being a 3rd grade teacher.
I don't know how I forgot about this. So many tears from my son doing 6th grade math. He's autistic, he's good at math. He knew how to do the problems the regular way but the teacher kept marking him wrong because he wasn't following the "correct" way. I've got degrees in math and civil engineering and it still took me a minute to figure out the stupid boxes and shading, etc. Once I figured it out, it made sense to me (even if overly complicated and convoluted), but he never did get it.My now grad school daugher was being taught common core math processes in middle school. The process to complete fairly simple operations was intensly complicated and was very prone to create errors.
I met with the teacher and explained that, as a managing engineer, if I ever caught any of my junior engineers trying to do math this way, I'd instantly fire them. It's a waste of time and overyly complicates easy problems creating massive opportunity for error.
She couldn't grasp what a complete boondoggle common core math was. Argued with me about it's benefits saying that knowing the process was more important than the result.
SMH
I was trying to remember. I think this was like 3rd grade, maybe 4th. Used regular long division. the lesson of course was there's some infinity numbers that we were supposed to stop at some point but I kept going assuming there must be a concrete answer that of course wasn't.Just curious, how old were you and which method did you use?
Ooof, yeah your teacher should have set a stop sign there.I was trying to remember. I think this was like 3rd grade, maybe 4th. Used regular long division. the lesson of course was there's some infinity numbers that we were supposed to stop at some point but I kept going assuming there must be a concrete answer that of course wasn't.
It was impossible. We had no advance notice, but did our best to learn as we could. We wrote notes and honestly didn't have a great weekend. Hence, 15ish years later, I am still salty about it.That assignment sounds impossible. What were students whose family couldn't sign supposed to do be silent all weekend? Pretending to be deaf in public is offensive to people who are actually deaf. How did you manage that weekend?
The idea was a good one, it was just executed poorly. It would have helped if we had advance notice and been able to choose the weekend, and possibly even received a packet with basic signs. This was before smartphones, so no apps would have been available.I actually like this assignment to be honest with you. If the family knew it was coming up they could learn some sign. Also there are other ways to communicate. Years ago I took an adult ed class to learn sign language. (as someone who is very hard of hearing I may need this one day). Our last class - we went out to dinner and we were only allowed to sign. This was in the Washington DC area which has a large Deaf population. We went to a restaurant where there were Deaf waiters. The restaurant and staff appreciated what we were trying to do and we were very welcomed. I agree that some may find it offensive but not all.
Yep it sounds like it was execution. definitely.The idea was a good one, it was just executed poorly. It would have helped if we had advance notice and been able to choose the weekend, and possibly even received a packet with basic signs. This was before smartphones, so no apps would have been available.
We still use basic signs when we are in a large group and cannot hear. My DD took ASL and Spanish for her foreign language credit, so we were ready for the deaf weekend the second go around. Her teacher did not assign one.
Homework should be for the student not the entire family. You were lucky that you live near Galludette University the experience would have been different somewhere else. Students shouldn't be penalized if their families can't or won't help them.I actually like this assignment to be honest with you. If the family knew it was coming up they could learn some sign. Also there are other ways to communicate. Years ago I took an adult ed class to learn sign language. (as someone who is very hard of hearing I may need this one day). Our last class - we went out to dinner and we were only allowed to sign. This was in the Washington DC area which has a large Deaf population. We went to a restaurant where there were Deaf waiters. The restaurant and staff appreciated what we were trying to do and we were very welcomed. I agree that some may find it offensive but not all.