World of Color Superthread

[franandaj]

Yah, you missed something. In the "superthreads" like this one the OP maintains the first post with current information. That is the reason the thread was created.

I am new to these boards, and did quite understand the concept of "Superthreads". I'd seen the term used but didn't quite understand the connotations. Thanks, I will check out the first post in addition to reading the later ones...

 

[HydroGuy]

I am new to these boards, and did quite understand the concept of "Superthreads". I'd seen the term used but didn't quite understand the connotations. Thanks, I will check out the first post in addition to reading the later ones...

When the threads or "superthreads" get long even I have a hard time reading all the posts. I did eventually make it through several hundered on the Grand Californian Superthread though and now just keep up with it.

In this thread I am trying to keep all the info current in the first post so people like you do not have to read the entire thread - only the OP. The other posts here may still be valuable. But the first post hopefully has all the essentials.

 

[Eeee-va]

I don't think Disney is worried about closing down a section of the park. Remember RDCT closes down a bunch of DL. While it closes and then reopens it does shut down.

I have heard that the "Magical" fireworks show that they currently run for the summer was created to help them deal with larger summer crowds. I think they DO still have to close down a few Fantasyland attractions for this show, but not as many.

So with AP crowds, last year Disney put on what most consider to be a "better" show (RDCT) in the off-season, closing down more attractions to do so, and then to put on what many consider to be a "lesser" show in summer (WoC), keeping more attractions open. So I think that might happen here. In this case, a "better" show for the off-season might be WoC with Paradise Pier closed off and completely darkened, while a "lesser" show for summer might be WoC with Paradise Pier dimly lit and with TSMM open.

I do agree that they're hoping to keep people from viewing the show at anywhere but their optimal location. But I've never heard of modern-day Disney actually following through on forcibly preventing people from watching a show from a poor location, so long as it doesn't endanger lives or encroach on walkways. It wouldn't be hard to rope off the Hungry Bear (which is one single restaurant, not 1/4 or 1/3 of the park!) and prevent people from watching Fantasmic from there--but they don't.

In this case they may very well not allow people to watch from the "wrong" side, as some of the folks in charge reportedly want--but this would be something fairly new, as far as I know.

We'll have to wait and see what they really do--they might not even decide on a plan until they try out a soft opening or two. But given the "Nighttastic" promos, I'd be surprised (though not shocked because of the below logistics problems) if TSMM didn't stay open.

So I believe that IF TSMM IS open, then it's going to be fairly difficult to keep people from watching the show from the "wrong" side of the lagoon. Can you imagine the complaints if people tried to watch the show from a railing in a nearly-deserted area of the park where the walkways are plenty open, and then CMs came by and ordered them to move on? If they wanted to prevent people from watching the show from the pier AND TSMM is open, then I think they'd probably have to have a roped-off walkway leading both to AND from TSMM, with CMs watching it to make sure people don't "escape" to watch the show. If that were the case, people would probably end up standing still in both the entrance and exit line to watch the show, causing bottlenecks until the CMs ordered them to move on.

 

[skiingfast]

So with AP crowds, last year Disney put on what most consider to be a "better" show (RDCT) in the off-season, closing down more attractions to do so, and then to put on what many consider to be a "lesser" show in summer (WoC), keeping more attractions open. So I think that might happen here. In this case, a "better" show for the off-season might be WoC with Paradise Pier closed off and completely darkened, while a "lesser" show for summer might be WoC with Paradise Pier dimly lit and with TSMM open.

I do agree that they're hoping to keep people from viewing the show at anywhere but their optimal location. But I've never heard of modern-day Disney actually following through on forcibly preventing people from watching a show from a poor location, so long as it doesn't endanger lives or encroach on walkways. It wouldn't be hard to rope off the Hungry Bear (which is one single restaurant, not 1/4 or 1/3 of the park!) and prevent people from watching Fantasmic from there--but they don't.

We'll know soon if Magical is a pared down version of RDCT. Though I think with AP's coming outside of the summer that the summer peak season is being spread into the rest of the year. The model of summer shows and off seasons show may not work anymore.

I don't think it would be that hard to close down the pier area. When the rides close people will migrate away. Then you can set a rope on one end and sweep everyone out the other. Disney is pretty practiced at crowd control too. Everyday in several parks they work the crowds better than happens at a concert of ballgame.

Obviously they are already setting up to move the park population around. The Aladdin Show will be open later rather than ealier. Shifting a good percent of the crowd West in the morning and then East in the evening.

But true really forcing people to leave isn't what disney does. They tell people you can't stand here but just 10 feet over is fine.

 

[Eeee-va]

We'll know soon if Magical is a pared down version of RDCT. Though I think with AP's coming outside of the summer that the summer peak season is being spread into the rest of the year. The model of summer shows and off seasons show may not work anymore.

My typo; sorry. Last year, MAGICAL was considered by many to be a lesser fireworks show than RDCT. We'll see if they make it any different this year.

 

[nunzia]

We'll know soon if Magical is a pared down version of RDCT. Though I think with AP's coming outside of the summer that the summer peak season is being spread into the rest of the year. The model of summer shows and off seasons show may not work anymore.

I don't think it would be that hard to close down the pier area. When the rides close people will migrate away. Then you can set a rope on one end and sweep everyone out the other. Disney is pretty practiced at crowd control too. Everyday in several parks they work the crowds better than happens at a concert of ballgame.

Obviously they are already setting up to move the park population around. The Aladdin Show will be open later rather than ealier. Shifting a good percent of the crowd West in the morning and then East in the evening.

But true really forcing people to leave isn't what disney does. They tell people you can't stand here but just 10 feet over is fine.

Wasn't Magical what they premiered last summer? If so, I saw it and FAR prefer RDCT. Dumbo does fly...OK..but really..I found it schmaltzy.
It really wasn't the best fireworks show.

 

[skiingfast]

Wasn't Magical what they premiered last summer? If so, I saw it and FAR prefer RDCT. Dumbo does fly...OK..but really..I found it schmaltzy.
It really wasn't the best fireworks show.

Right, but what I'm saying is that they may not do the weak summer shows again. Now Magical may be more than adding Dumbo because as noted that's just a token improvement.

 

[skiingfast]

I also wanted to query the thread about something I haven't though of it in a long time. I had heard early last fall about Captian EO being a test site for Showpass before WoC opened.

Did they use ShowPass, not fastpass like it had, for Captian EO?
If so how did it work?

 

[Eeee-va]

I also wanted to query the thread about something I haven't though of it in a long time. I had heard early last fall about Captian EO being a test site for Showpass before WoC opened.

Did they use ShowPass, not fastpass like it had, for Captian EO?
If so how did it work?

I never read anything about them using ShowPass (or even FastPass!) for Captain EO so I don't think it happened. Rather, they let people stay in the esplanade all night, already "in line" for Captain EO, with the expectation that there could be really long lines (and if not, at least it was good publicity). The press did show up in part to cover the "crowd" waiting. But I don't think the lines really got long, and I THINK everyone who was waiting in that line might have managed to make it in to the official premiere. (But I think they let Disney-owned hotel guests see it earlier.)

 

[skiingfast]

Here is a reference to ShowPass for Captain EO though it is old now and doesn't work as suggested, if it ever did. Post# 35

http://www.intercot.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=165004&page=2

 

[jernysgirl]

Has anyone seen the World of Color page on the Disneyland site?

http://disneyland.disney.go.com/disneyland/en_US/calendar/specialEvents/detail?name=WorldOfColor

I thought the park about the dining experiences was interesting, and it almost sounds like there will be different dining tiers or options. Hmm.....

Dining Enhances Your Magical Evening
World of Color takes the idea of dinner and a show to a whole new level. Whether you reserve one of the special dining experiences or want to get a quick snack before the show, World of Color will be the centerpiece of a great night out.

 

[jnjusoioa]

I just have a quick question, is that dining experience, is that going to be like a special thing, where you have diner and then reserved seating for the show? I was hoping they would offer something like that but wasn't sure, so thought I would just double check on here and see if it has been set in stone yet. Thanks.

 

[skiingfast]

It's hard to say if Disney is suggesting a Dinner Package. It could be like a dinner and movie, or a movie with popcorn.

 

[HydroGuy]

I just have a quick question, is that dining experience, is that going to be like a special thing, where you have diner and then reserved seating for the show? I was hoping they would offer something like that but wasn't sure, so thought I would just double check on here and see if it has been set in stone yet. Thanks.

Since WOC is not even on the DLR official calendar yet, no one seems to know. It appears there will be reserved seating of some kind.

Here is what MousePlanet said today - http://www.mouseplanet.com/9250/Disneyland_Resort_Update

Disney has previously offered "Premium Viewing" packages for popular shows, the best-known being the Fantasmic dessert package in Disneyland, but they're looking to considerably expand that program for the World of Color. The plan is to sell some form of boxed dinner or dessert package that will come with access to a reserved viewing area (note: not a reserved seat), and is intended to be eaten while you're waiting to be led into the viewing area. As it's been explained to us, you'd reserve your box meal/dessert up to one month ahead of time, then pick it up an hour or so before your show time, get in a line for the reserved viewing area, and eat while you wait. The original plan apparently included just a dinner option, but, with shows starting as late as 11:30 pm, a dessert option is now under consideration. No menu or pricing details have been released yet, and we're trying to figure out how up to 2000 people per show are going to feel about trying eat a box dinner/dessert while sitting/standing in line, presumably with no chairs or tables.

 

[LuLusApple]

From that mouseplanet article it looks like it will be "reserved standing" Yikes!

 

[Garthilk]

From that mouseplanet article it looks like it will be "reserved standing" Yikes!

Hahaha,

Paying to stand in line and eat a counter service item, wait can't you do that for free?

 

[drag n' fly]

This is the response I got from Vacation Planning today when I made a request to book a WOC AG dinner package for June 14th. ............CRUD

"For World of Color, we have not been given any information yet on if there will be a dinner or dessert type package. Ariel's Grotto is only taking breakfast and lunch reservations and Wine Country Trattoria is down due to refurbishment".

 

[letitsnow]

Do you think it would be safe to say that the 11:00 showing of WOC on Tuesday, 06/15 would be less busy than June 12-14 (sat-mon)? I'm thinking that most people would have work the next day?

 

[skiingfast]

Do you think it would be safe to say that the 11:00 showing of WOC on Tuesday, 06/15 would be less busy than June 12-14 (sat-mon)? I'm thinking that most people would have work the next day?

I'd say so, since it's a Tuesday. Most AP's will be working. Lots of the people who wanted to see it right away will have done so over the weekend.

 

[HydroGuy]

Do you think it would be safe to say that the 11:00 showing of WOC on Tuesday, 06/15 would be less busy than June 12-14 (sat-mon)? I'm thinking that most people would have work the next day?

I assume you mean the 11:30 show? And, no, I do not think that is a safe assumption at all. That day is not blocked for any AP holders. A good percentage of the 1,000,000 AP holders will be trying to see WOC in June before the final summer blockout on July 3. They have 12 days to do it and possibly 36 shows in which to see it.

See - MousePlanet keeps a calendar:
MousePlanet's Integrated Blockout Calendar

All of the days will be very crowded. If you have a FP it will not matter which day. If not - and I think the 11:30 show will not - I would think June 12 when more APs are blocked including DAP - would be better. But that is day #2 of WOC which will be busy with non-AP locals. I would say that will be least crowded with people trying to lineup hours and hours early. Even so, June 12 will be very busy for WOC.

Get a FP if you can and that will make life better.