Woman Dies At the Airport.

One of the "they" could have gone with her.

My guess is that if there is already buzz around a possible campaign that hes being watched very carefully by other camps. I agree with you Dawn , maybe she insisted she went alone due to the fact she didnt want to draw any attention to it, there are good treatment centers in the NY area alone she went far enough away to be out of the public eye . Again my opinion
 
My guess is that if there is already buzz around a possible campaign that hes being watched very carefully by other camps. I agree with you Dawn , maybe she insisted she went alone due to the fact she didnt want to draw any attention to it, there are good treatment centers in the NY area alone she went far enough away to be out of the public eye . Again my opinion
I know what you are saying. I don't care what the excuses, there isn't a justifiable reason to allow an unstable family member to travel alone. I don't care if they insist on going alone. The family carries some responsibility for that, is all I am saying.
 
I know what you are saying. I don't care what the excuses, there isn't a justifiable reason to allow an unstable family member to travel alone. I don't care if they insist on going alone. The family carries some responsibility for that, is all I am saying.

Could not agree more. may be why they are not calling for heads to roll so fast
 
Could not agree more. may be why they are not calling for heads to roll so fast

Don't count on heads not rolling. They are waiting for the postmortem exam.
 

Maybe she was experiencing alcohol withdrawal. People with a history of heavy drinking and then sudden withdrawal can experience severe agitation. That's why hospitals have net beds.

But most alcoholics arrive at the treatment facility drunk. One last hurrah, ya know.

There is definitely more to this story, that's for sure.
 
But most alcoholics arrive at the treatment facility drunk. One last hurrah, ya know.

There is definitely more to this story, that's for sure.

Here is a little more; I think that there will definately be some scrutiny about why she was left alone given some of the eye witness accounts.

Carol Anne Gotbaum, 45, of the upper West Side, died less than an hour later, after cops claim she apparently strangled herself while trying to escape from the handcuffs in a holding cell at Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport.
"I'm not a terrorist! I'm a sick mom! I need help!" yelled the mother of three after she missed the 2:58 p.m. US Airways Express flight to Tucson, said airport workers who witnessed the confrontation Friday.
They said one cop put his knee in her back to restrain her while others grabbed her flailing arms.
"I believe she was a little not-there. She kept punching. She kept screaming. She kept kicking," one worker told The News. "She looked really scared, really frightened. I think she was afraid to go to jail."
Gotbaum's husband, Noah, is the son of longtime city labor leader Victor Gotbaum and the stepson of his wife, Public Advocate Betsy Gotbaum, a possible candidate for mayor in 2009.
 
Carol Anne Gotbaum's desperate last call

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BY SOO YOUN in Phoenix
and ALISON GENDAR in New York
DAILY NEWS WRITERS

Wednesday, October 3rd 2007, 4:00 AM


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The daughter-in-law of city Public Advocate Betsy Gotbaum frantically dialed home when Phoenix ticket agents refused to let her board a flight to a stint in alcohol rehab.

"They are not letting me on! It's all falling apart," Carol Anne Gotbaum told her husband, Noah, before she dropped the phone at Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport, witnesses said.

Noah Gotbaum called back, desperately trying to persuade the U.S. Airways Express agent to calm his wife and let the mother of three board the plane for the $42,000-a-month Cottonwood de Tucson rehab program, friends and witnesses said.

"It will be okay. She just needs to take her medication. ... She hasn't taken it today," an airline worker said Noah Gotbaum begged. His wife was taking prescriptions for anxiety and depression, sources said.

The airline agent called Phoenix police, who soon grappled with and cuffed the distraught 45-year-old, then shackled her to a bench in an airport holding area Friday.

Less than an hour later, Carol Anne Gotbaum was dead, apparently strangled by the 16-inch chain used to hook her handcuffs to the bench.

Cops say she appeared to have gotten tangled up trying to shift the cuffs from back to front.

Gotbaum's family has hired famed forensic pathologist Cyril Wecht to perform a second autopsy after the official one conducted yesterday. No cause of death was released pending toxicology reports.

After about three years of trouble with alcohol, Gotbaum, who was married to a son of longtime New York labor leader Victor Gotbaum and his former wife, had agreed the day before to enroll in the month-long Cottonwood program.

Others familiar with Carol Anne Gotbaum's history said she had longstanding mental health issues. Gotbaum attempted suicide twice in the past year, they said. She had also tried a brief detox program last fall at Manhattan's St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital, but it did not work.

Gotbaum was sober on the flight from Manhattan to Phoenix, but a friend who was supposed to meet her at the terminal for the last leg to Tucson failed to show, sources said.

She had lunch solo at the terminal, got drunk and didn't hear her connecting flight being called for Tucson, airline workers said.

She was jittery as she went through security and was pulled aside to be patted down, a witness said. Gotbaum said, "I have to get my flight. I'm late for my flight," the witness said.

She arrived at the gate just eight minutes before the plane was supposed to leave and was turned away.

Phoenix police said they soon had to subdue the distraught woman, whom witnesses heard shout, "I'm not a terrorist! I'm a sick mom!"

Gotbaum family lawyer Michael Manning of Phoenix said she could have been unsupervised as long as 30 minutes. A police spokesman said she was unsupervised no more than five to 10 minutes in the holding cell.

Family members were racked with guilt for letting her travel alone, sources said.
 
What kind of husband would let his alcoholic, mentally unstable, suicidal wife fly across country to go to rehab?
 
What kind of husband would let his alcoholic, mentally unstable, suicidal wife fly across country to go to rehab?
That is what I am saying. Wow, the more you read, this woman definitely had no business traveling alone.
 
That is what I am saying. Wow, the more you read, this woman definitely had no business traveling alone.

Not an excuse because someone should have still accompanied her, but perhaps they really thought that they had their bases covered by escorting her to her first flight an arranging someone to meet her for the next leg. That might have worked if the person had shown. Its awful. It sounds like it was enough to throw her over the edge.
 
Wow. That follow-up to this story is just monumentally sad. :(
 
That in no way excuses the treatment she received. Sick people are still human.

The airport officals did not know who or what they were dealing with to know she was sick in the first place. This is a tragic accident
 
That is questionable, yes. What is a shame is that she has already been accused of being on drugs..:confused3 Why not wait and see why she was acting frantic/irrational~ whatever, before we indict her. For all we know one of her kids was sick and she needed to get there yesterday...(which is more specuation, we just don't have any facts yet, so let's wait and see)
Terrible situation.

Excellent point, but it's not this DIS way...
 
This is completely OT, but "preparing to depart" also means the plane hadn't left.

The woman was there in time to board the plane, but they wouldn't let her on, which seems very silly to me. Why they refuse to let people board planes they have arrived in time to board is something I can't understand. Is this more of the "safety" we've gained with the Patriot Act or is this the airlines being jerks?

Don't you suppose there's more information that the TSA/police/security has that hasn't been released to the public?
 
That in no way excuses the treatment she received. Sick people are still human.
The thing is, I don't know what treatment she received. I believe the circumstances are bizarre and obviously an investigation is necessary to figure out what happened.
 










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