Wish or Dream for 3 year old?

I am a big fan of Animator’s Palate restaurant on Dream class ships. Crush from Finding Nemo swims from one video screen to another, going around the room, interacting with guests in the various seating areas. It’s one of the calmer Main Dining Rooms (MDR). Thanks, @Lillebelle, for mentioning that.
 
This may or may not help. Cozumel did not have too many kid-friendly excursions. I do not have children but I commented to the friend I was traveling with that the Cozumel day seemed to be a popular day for the BBB make-overs/packages. We decided that many families with young kids probably decided to stay on ship and spend some of the money that would have gone towards an excursion to the BBB make-overs/package.

I loved midship detective agency on the Fantasy, so I'm hoping for you that it's pretty similar to the other ships.
 
Okay I this will likely not be a popular take but here goes- Book the sailing you as an adult want to go on (or is cheaper if you really cannot decide).

He is 3. He will likely enjoy either sailing. I get we all want our children to have the best experience but by booking a DCL sailing you are already paying a premium over other lines and getting him wonderful kids clubs, great family events, and fantastic shows.

Book for you. He will have a wonderful time on either.

Honestly this is my take and what I recommend on the resort boards.
 
Totally valid! He is potty trained but I’m also very unsure of how he will react to the kids club and if he will want to stay and we won’t force it at all if he doesn’t want to go. But I did think the cooler the club, the more likely he might be tempted. And I think he’ll like seeing them in the open house either way.

My 3 year old loved the captain mickey and minnie playground they have between the nursery/kids club.

I wouldn't necessarily book based on the kids club options for a 3 year old though, mainly because kids are strange. I never would have predicted that my 7 year old would spend all her time in the marvel section or designing her own roller coaster on the simulator. I figured she'd be in the fairytale hall or whatever it is. Nope.

I'd pick the dates/itinerary/cost that works for you. FLL is the more challenging airport for us to get to, so we only cruise out of PC. Changing planes isn't worth having a closer cruise port.
 

And as a PS: If your kiddo is potty trained, then all they'll want is a pool and/or water slide. Don't overthink it too much.
 
One other consideration I don't feel like has been addressed - you mentioned 5 night Dream or Wish but the Wish only does 4/3 nights (right?). So if you're choosing between a 4 night and 5 night itinerary, I'd definitely recommend 5. I feel like that's the sweet spot where it's not too long if you end up not loving the cruise but it's long enough for you to 'hit your stride' and really enjoy it.
You're right that the Wish is actually only 4 nights! I kind of glossed over that because they do both do two stops, but the Dream itinerary has one more day at sea. To be honest, I'm a little hesitant about doing even the 4 nights and was initially thinking about just a 2 or 3 night cruise as we've never done any sort of cruise and aren't sure we will like it for a few reasons. This is really an entirely different topic, but these concerns are being re-affirmed as I'm looking more into reviews of both ships. In particular, the concerns I have about cruises generally are being stuck in a crowded place and seasickness. I know the seasickness issue is likely dependent on weather and hopefully not an issue on such a large shop, but I'm seeing reviews of people saying they had to wait 30 minutes at least for just about everything on the Wish and that Castaway Cay is jam-packed and like a city beach on a holiday. All of that sounds deeply unappealing and has me re-thinking this entirely. I don't like crowds and take great pains to go to WDW in the off-season and strategize to avoid crowds, but it seems like some of this is unavoidable on the Wish (unless perhaps I guess I book concierge and can snag a cabana at Castaway Cay?). And my husband HATES crowds and is going to be miserable if we're standing in lines all day (not to mention, the 3 year old will be bouncing off the walls)

Is the Dream likely to be less crowded since it's older? Or should I just go do a resort-only stay at the parks for the laid-back Disney fun that I'm looking for?
 
You're right that the Wish is actually only 4 nights! I kind of glossed over that because they do both do two stops, but the Dream itinerary has one more day at sea. To be honest, I'm a little hesitant about doing even the 4 nights and was initially thinking about just a 2 or 3 night cruise as we've never done any sort of cruise and aren't sure we will like it for a few reasons. This is really an entirely different topic, but these concerns are being re-affirmed as I'm looking more into reviews of both ships. In particular, the concerns I have about cruises generally are being stuck in a crowded place and seasickness. I know the seasickness issue is likely dependent on weather and hopefully not an issue on such a large shop, but I'm seeing reviews of people saying they had to wait 30 minutes at least for just about everything on the Wish and that Castaway Cay is jam-packed and like a city beach on a holiday. All of that sounds deeply unappealing and has me re-thinking this entirely. I don't like crowds and take great pains to go to WDW in the off-season and strategize to avoid crowds, but it seems like some of this is unavoidable on the Wish (unless perhaps I guess I book concierge and can snag a cabana at Castaway Cay?). And my husband HATES crowds and is going to be miserable if we're standing in lines all day (not to mention, the 3 year old will be bouncing off the walls)

Is the Dream likely to be less crowded since it's older? Or should I just go do a resort-only stay at the parks for the laid-back Disney fun that I'm looking for?

So the Dream/Fantasy and the Wish are more or less the same size and time of year matters for "feels like" crowds. Spring breaks will be crowded (but that will be true if you're on land or on sea).

The only real waits I remember seeing on the Wish are on pirate night, because you don't get that many opportunites to meet Captain Hook (for example). And waits for princesses will be long unless you snag a royal gathering time. But waits for princesses are long in the parks too. And the wait at Donalds cantina can be long at lunch time.

If you want a smaller ship, the Magic is probably what you're looking for.

ETA: I was on a sold out Wish cruise and I don't remember waiting in line a long line for much, we go to the parks enough and will pony up for CRT or Akershus so get our princess fixes there. I think it depends on what you're looking to do. If you're just going to be pool side and eat all day and drink fun drinks, I wouldn't worry too much about how sold out the ship is. Cruise ship pools are people soup though.
 
So the Dream/Fantasy and the Wish are more or less the same size and time of year matters for "feels like" crowds. Spring breaks will be crowded (but that will be true if you're on land or on sea).

The only real waits I remember seeing on the Wish are on pirate night, because you don't get that many opportunites to meet Captain Hook (for example). And waits for princesses will be long unless you snag a royal gathering time. But waits for princesses are long in the parks too. And the wait at Donalds cantina can be long at lunch time.

If you want a smaller ship, the Magic is probably what you're looking for.
This is helpful - thank you! This is my first year being more tied to a school calendar (obviously my 3 year old can miss "school" but since there are now weeks when we won't have childcare and therefore can't work anyway, it makes sense to me to use it for vacation), so I landed on this cruise idea because I figured the cruise would have more of a contained/constant crowd level than somewhere on land and had just been assuming, given the cost and my general admiration for the way Disney runs things, that Disney would have managed capacity so amenities weren't overrun, but I'm now seeing varying opinions on whether that is true. The thing with the land-based crowds is it's always more possible to escape the crowds and also generally have a larger room to retreat to, at a minimum. Being trapped on a very crowded ship feels like a literal nightmare to me.

The lines I'm worried about are lines for food, character interactions (though not particularly princesses - he wasn't into face characters at all on our last trip), the water slides, and the overall crowd level at Castaway Cay. I'm also even reading reports about waiting 10+ minutes for elevators at popular times??

So thank you for the tip! I'm going to go look now into whether the Magic has an option for our dates, as well as pricing out a WDW resort stay!
 
You're right that the Wish is actually only 4 nights! I kind of glossed over that because they do both do two stops, but the Dream itinerary has one more day at sea. To be honest, I'm a little hesitant about doing even the 4 nights and was initially thinking about just a 2 or 3 night cruise as we've never done any sort of cruise and aren't sure we will like it for a few reasons. This is really an entirely different topic, but these concerns are being re-affirmed as I'm looking more into reviews of both ships. In particular, the concerns I have about cruises generally are being stuck in a crowded place and seasickness. I know the seasickness issue is likely dependent on weather and hopefully not an issue on such a large shop, but I'm seeing reviews of people saying they had to wait 30 minutes at least for just about everything on the Wish and that Castaway Cay is jam-packed and like a city beach on a holiday. All of that sounds deeply unappealing and has me re-thinking this entirely. I don't like crowds and take great pains to go to WDW in the off-season and strategize to avoid crowds, but it seems like some of this is unavoidable on the Wish (unless perhaps I guess I book concierge and can snag a cabana at Castaway Cay?). And my husband HATES crowds and is going to be miserable if we're standing in lines all day (not to mention, the 3 year old will be bouncing off the walls)

Is the Dream likely to be less crowded since it's older? Or should I just go do a resort-only stay at the parks for the laid-back Disney fun that I'm looking for?
Oh dear. I actually feel bad that you are second guessing anything. The 2 ships are entirely different but special in their own ways. I’ve never had a problem getting a chair at CC nor getting food. I’m not understanding the “crowd” issue to be honest. Certain areas of the beach may be more crowded than others but trust there are plenty of chairs on the beaches. Also, it depends on when you get off the ship as well and where you decide to settle in on CC.

I will say this about the Wish vs Dream, it does have more eating options for lunch outside of the buffet area. I happen to like the layout of Cabana’s on the Dream vs the new market seating area (buffet) but am a fan of the food options on the Wish. Please don’t let any negativity deter you from the experience. A 3 night is over very quickly and I don’t think you would regret the 4 or 5 night. Remember, the first day is all about onboards, drills, sail away show, getting oriented with the ship and then it’s time for dinner so the first day is a blur. Of course certain areas will seem “crowded” such as before/between/after dinners in the atrium when they are doing pictures, etc. Before/after the shows. It’s just where people seem to congregate as well as a “pass through” area for some. Keep in mind shops are only open when the ship is out to sea and usually more crowded day 1. I personally don’t think the parks will be relaxing for you. 😁 My fear is you’ll talk yourself out of it. Use the board for planning purposes such as helpful tips. Please disregard a lot of it as there can be a lot of negativity. It’s a magical experience, especially from the eyes of a child and no one can take that from you unless you let them!

Personally I’m a fan of the Dream but I also like the Wish. They are completely different boats. The Wish has a very large indoor basketball court area with air hockey tables, etc. where the Dream does not. The Dream has 2 restaurants a bit more formal -ish than the Wish. Animators Palate on the Dream truly is great and I liked it more than the Marvels experience to be honest and we are big Marvel fans.

We’ve done park days before and after the cruise and I can tell you that you can not compare the park experience with the cruise experience at all. Since you asked, cruise hands down over park.

I’d rather you have the experience than not. No one can predict seasickness either. They do sell patches on board (even for kids). I mean….it is a boat so…..it’s gonna sway. 😉😁
 
I'm also even reading reports about waiting 10+ minutes for elevators at popular times??

We almost never took the elevators, they're small and depending on time of day, it's quicker to walk up/down the stairs.

Food lines are going to be similar to your resort counter service, they will be crowded at peak times but I don't think we ever waited too long. And usually one of the restaurants has a sit down lunch, so that's an option.

Character lines can be long, depending on the character (and in my experience, they are longer on pirate night because everyone's in their pirate attire) but they also happen sooooooo frequently in general, you can make the decision whether you want to wait or not wait. And some characters draw longer waits than others. I feel like Mickey is going to be a longer wait than Goofy. I also think people are just intolerable of waiting now, if it's longer than a 10 minute wait we don't have the mental bandwidth to deal with it or something.

I don't go to beaches in the real world, so I can't comment on how crowded castaway cay feels but I didn't find it overly crowded in late February.

Embarkation will feel crowded before the rooms open, and the sea day will probably feel crowded because everyone is on board.

That being said, I would probably recommend the 4 night over the 3 night, as the 3 night is sooooooo compressed. A 4 night is compressed too, but with a 3 night you're boarding on day 1, you have all of day 2, and then day 3 you're packing up everything to put the luggage out unless you're walking off with your luggage the next morning.
 
I personally don’t think the parks will be relaxing for you. 😁
Oh to clarify - I wouldn't do the parks! I would solely go for a resort trip. We did the parks last March and, while it was great, you're right that it certainly was not relaxing hahaha. I intended to wait another year for an0other parks trip. But just looking online for nice, family friendly resorts within a few hours flight of the Northeast US, I keep coming back to the idea of a Disney resort. I was thinking a stay at Caribbean Beach would hit a lot of what we're looking for on this trip - beautiful pools, good food, access to Disney characters through character dining, fun activities for kids, something of a ride in the Skyliner and access to the Cars stuff at Art of Animation, and even some sand for my son to play in and we could take some ferry boat rides!
Oh dear. I actually feel bad that you are second guessing anything. The 2 ships are entirely different but special in their own ways. I’ve never had a problem getting a chair at CC nor getting food. I’m not understanding the “crowd” issue to be honest. Certain areas of the beach may be more crowded than others but trust there are plenty of chairs on the beaches. Also, it depends on when you get off the ship as well and where you decide to settle in on CC.

I don't go to beaches in the real world, so I can't comment on how crowded castaway cay feels but I didn't find it overly crowded in late February.

I think the idea of crowds on Castaway Cay is actually what is scaring me the most. I've read a few different reviews calling it a "madhouse" and saying there isn't even room to float in the water there are so many people. I've also read blogs with "hot tips" that you need to dash right over to the family beach to stake out chairs and umbrellas as soon as you get off the boat if you want to have somewhere to sit on the beach during the day. I live in NJ and go to the Jersey shore annually, so it's not like I'm expecting unspoiled deserted beaches, but not even having room to move in the water or having to fight for a shaded lounger with a toddler seems really unpleasant, especially paying these prices. But I also see reviews that don't have this experience at all, so it's hard for me to figure out. I guess the difference might be how sold the cruise is? I am worried because we are traveling at Spring break time, which might be a big difference from late February, but I'm not sure if it's AS crowded as the summer, which seem to be generating more of the negative reviews I'm seeing.
 
I think the idea of crowds on Castaway Cay is actually what is scaring me the most. I've read a few different reviews calling it a "madhouse" and saying there isn't even room to float in the water there are so many people. I've also read blogs with "hot tips" that you need to dash right over to the family beach to stake out chairs and umbrellas as soon as you get off the boat if you want to have somewhere to sit on the beach during the day. I live in NJ and go to the Jersey shore annually, so it's not like I'm expecting unspoiled deserted beaches, but not even having room to move in the water or having to fight for a shaded lounger with a toddler seems really unpleasant, especially paying these prices. But I also see reviews that don't have this experience at all, so it's hard for me to figure out. I guess the difference might be how sold the cruise is? I am worried because we are traveling at Spring break time, which might be a big difference from late February, but I'm not sure if it's AS crowded as the summer, which seem to be generating more of the negative reviews I'm seeing.

Check the water temperatures for late March, because in late February the water is still "cold" for southerners. We were at the furthest end of the family beaches and took our time getting off the ship that morning, still got some loungers with an umbrella. We were up a bit from the water, but that wasn't a deal breaker for us.

You could tell who all the people from the north were, *we* were the ones IN the water.

ETA: One thing to keep in mind is that if someone goes to Castaway Cay and has a completely normal, acceptable beach day, it's not what drives the youtube clicks or the social media feedback. plenty of people go and are perfectly pleased with the experience.
 
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My kids absolutely loved the Wish pool and splash pad, and the hero zone inflatable obstacle course that they set up when the ship docked in Nassau. I personally didn’t find the Marvel show to be overstimulating, but I do find Animators Palate to be too much. We actually really enjoyed the Frozen dinner show on the Wish - our table was against the wall so it wasn’t overwhelming.
 
Oh to clarify - I wouldn't do the parks! I would solely go for a resort trip. We did the parks last March and, while it was great, you're right that it certainly was not relaxing hahaha. I intended to wait another year for an0other parks trip. But just looking online for nice, family friendly resorts within a few hours flight of the Northeast US, I keep coming back to the idea of a Disney resort. I was thinking a stay at Caribbean Beach would hit a lot of what we're looking for on this trip - beautiful pools, good food, access to Disney characters through character dining, fun activities for kids, something of a ride in the Skyliner and access to the Cars stuff at Art of Animation, and even some sand for my son to play in and we could take some ferry boat rides!




I think the idea of crowds on Castaway Cay is actually what is scaring me the most. I've read a few different reviews calling it a "madhouse" and saying there isn't even room to float in the water there are so many people. I've also read blogs with "hot tips" that you need to dash right over to the family beach to stake out chairs and umbrellas as soon as you get off the boat if you want to have somewhere to sit on the beach during the day. I live in NJ and go to the Jersey shore annually, so it's not like I'm expecting unspoiled deserted beaches, but not even having room to move in the water or having to fight for a shaded lounger with a toddler seems really unpleasant, especially paying these prices. But I also see reviews that don't have this experience at all, so it's hard for me to figure out. I guess the difference might be how sold the cruise is? I am worried because we are traveling at Spring break time, which might be a big difference from late February, but I'm not sure if it's AS crowded as the summer, which seem to be generating more of the negative reviews I'm seeing.
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Found this pic on the net and I’d say it’s a fair assessment of the crowd expectations. keep in mind, this is also just one area of the beach as there is another area. We aren’t going to beg you to go 😉 but remember it’s just one ship. It’s not like multiple ships are stopping here or it’s shared with others not on the cruise. At the end of the day, only you can decide what you are comfortable with but there are plenty of pics of CC on the net and likely videos to give you an idea of the “crowds”. Even if it is spring break that usually means higher cruise fares for DCL, it’s not like the crowd can get any larger than that which the boat you are on allows. So it doesn’t matter the time of year, there’s always a chance of getting on a full boat. I hope you decide on something you feel good about, cruise or not. I get it as it’s a lot of $$ but I stand by “I don’t think you’d regret it”. But you won’t know if you don’t go. Best of luck on your decision!
 
I remember nothing from when I was young. I had a happy, trauma-free life. I say this to point out that little kids don’t need big ticket vacations.

I love the idea of a nice resort with a fun pool. If WDW resorts are ones with which you are happy, they have got some great options.

And, remember, in 2025, you get free admission to a water park on check-in day. I would be tempted to stay somewhere else on the day you arrive at MCO, then check-in the following day at Disney - getting access to the water park early.


I’d actually be more interested in renting a timeshare unit somewhere to get more space and still have great water areas. I think Disney overcharges for their rooms. And has parking that is inconvenient. That said, my favorite is Animal Kingdom Lodge. It seems like an oasis in the middle of chaos. But I feel the need to stay there and not leave for other activities, due to the cost.

…so I’d say maybe wait til he’s older to cruise. Unpopular thinking, probably. And I don’t go to popular /crowded places during Spring Break. Definitely not getting into the mess of flying then. I think crowds are just part of the current travel craze.
 
I think the idea of crowds on Castaway Cay is actually what is scaring me the most. I've read a few different reviews calling it a "madhouse" and saying there isn't even room to float in the water there are so many people. I've also read blogs with "hot tips" that you need to dash right over to the family beach to stake out chairs and umbrellas as soon as you get off the boat if you want to have somewhere to sit on the beach during the day. I live in NJ and go to the Jersey shore annually, so it's not like I'm expecting unspoiled deserted beaches, but not even having room to move in the water or having to fight for a shaded lounger with a toddler seems really unpleasant, especially paying these prices. But I also see reviews that don't have this experience at all, so it's hard for me to figure out. I guess the difference might be how sold the cruise is? I am worried because we are traveling at Spring break time, which might be a big difference from late February, but I'm not sure if it's AS crowded as the summer, which seem to be generating more of the negative reviews I'm seeing.

I don't think Castaway will be prohibitively crowded. That said, my potentially unpopular take on this one then is if you're really stressed about the beach at Castaway...just stay on the ship. It will be so empty especially in the morning. We did this on a Wish cruise and I literally had the adult pool (which is one of the people soup situations that gets complained about) all to myself.

The ships are big enough that they are never packed everywhere all at once. It's just that if you try to do something when everyone else is also trying to do it, it will be crowded. But if you strategize a little bit (same as you would with any other Disney experience), you can avoid most crowded situations. Like, the line for the AquaMouse will be 40+ minutes at peak time on a sea day. But if you go later on in the day, or when people are in port, or even as soon as you get on the ship, you could find that there's no line at all.

Also...only because you alluded to it as maybe a possibility...concierge ensures you pretty much always have somewhere chill to go. It's a much bigger cost so I won't elaborate unless you want me to but just wanted to point out that concierge gets you a lot more than just a chance at a cabana.

ETA: One other Castaway suggestion -- you could also elect to stay on the ship in the morning (when most people rush over to the beach), and then pop over to Castaway for a couple hours in the afternoon when a lot of people have already packed up for the day.
 
Check the water temperatures for late March, because in late February the water is still "cold" for southerners. We were at the furthest end of the family beaches and took our time getting off the ship that morning, still got some loungers with an umbrella. We were up a bit from the water, but that wasn't a deal breaker for us.

You could tell who all the people from the north were, they were the ones IN the water.
Oooh, it could be helpful if water temps scared some people away! I'll get in the ocean in the low 70s
 
I love the idea of a nice resort with a fun pool. If WDW resorts are ones with which you are happy, they have got some great options
I think I have actually talked myself into the resort only thing! Caribbean beach is under $300/night which I actually think is a great deal?? I’ve stayed there before so know it’s huge but that seems like less of an issue when I’m not rushing off to a park, and the amenities in terms of things to do with kids are huge pluses that I can’t really find anywhere else.
 
Also...only because you alluded to it as maybe a possibility...concierge ensures you pretty much always have somewhere chill to go. It's a much bigger cost so I won't elaborate unless you want me to but just wanted to point out that concierge gets you a lot more than just a chance at a cabana.
I would be interested to hear more about if you think concierge is worth it generally (or more so on some ships?) I think I’ve talked myself into a resort only stay at WDW for this particular trip given what we’re looking for but I do still fully want to do a Disney Cruise and very interested in concierge. think I may just save it for when my son is older and more understanding of the need to stand in line and also will be more into some of the Marvel and Star Wars stuff and more reliably able to stay up for the late night stuff.
 
Concierge on a Disney cruise still involves mixing with crowds. You eat in the main dining rooms and buffet or deck quick service, use the kiddie pools, attend deck parties.

You do have reserved seating at the big shows, but that also means you aren’t choosing your seats.

And there is no separate Concierge area in the kids clubs.


… Under $300 at any resort is now a good deal, Disney or other. I have had to adjust my price meter.
 

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