Winter Olympics No Video Thread

[NotUrsula]

Thank you for the very clear explanation, TwoMisfits. That's interesting that skaters get some credit for a failed attempt but none if they successfully complete an easier jump when they're supposed to do the harder one.

Yes, it's called "popping" a jump, and it's actually OK to do it in the long program (the "free skate") because difficulty of elements is not mandated there (although of course in elite competition you can't slack off and do easy things, because you'll get beaten that way.) In a FS they are given types of elements they must include, and how many, but it is up to the skater to choose exactly which ones they will do within those parameters. If your program plan says you plan to do a triple loop and you only do a double, then you do get the base point value of the double in the free skate program, though your GOE (grade of execution) will be lower because you didn't demonstrate the skill you said that you would.

The elements of the short program are strictly mandated in all skating disciplines (In another board I'm on the question was asked, could you substitute a harder move later in the program to make up the point total, and the answer is no; not in a short program, and it really doesn't work as a strategy in the long program unless you have previously practiced that as a planned backup option, because it would throw off the program's timing.)

Amber Glenn's reaction was what it was because ...

Spoiler

the triple she popped was a Loop jump, one of the easier ones for her. She was not only furious with herself for not getting the element called at all, but it was an added dose of awful that it was a mistake on a jump that a skater of her caliber regards as rather simple. At the age of 26 this is a career heartbreak that no one in the sport will ever forget, especially because it took her 2 years to climb back from what was thought to be a career-ending concussion and skull fracture in 2023.)

 

[maddiel]

I was not expecting the Canada-Czechia quarter final men's hockey game to be such nail biter! Jeesh!

I hope Sidney Crosby wasn't injured badly enough to be benched going forward.

 

[jdb in AZ]

Why was Martha Stewart interviewed at the olympics? She's less of an athlete than Snoop Dog, who's at least an honorary coach (and making a ton of $$$$$$ for his appearances.)

 

[Marrila]

Why was Martha Stewart interviewed at the olympics? She's less of an athlete than Snoop Dog, who's at least an honorary coach (and making a ton of $$$$$$ for his appearances.)

She and snoop are good friends.

 

[jdb in AZ]

She and snoop are good friends.

Thanks. I'd rather watch the competition. Didn't need to see Amber Glenn putting on her makeup either. (If she were an expert she would have used waterproof mascara.)

You'd think NBC would do better.

 

[mommasita]

I was not expecting the Canada-Czechia quarter final men's hockey game to be such nail biter! Jeesh!

I hope Sidney Crosby wasn't injured badly enough to be benched going forward.

It doesn’t look great seeing him labouring down the hallway.

 

[irlandaise]

Yes, it's called "popping" a jump, and it's actually OK to do it in the long program (the "free skate") because difficulty of elements is not mandated there (although of course in elite competition you can't slack off and do easy things, because you'll get beaten that way.) In a FS they are given types of elements they must include, and how many, but it is up to the skater to choose exactly which ones they will do within those parameters. If your program plan says you plan to do a triple loop and you only do a double, then you do get the base point value of the double in the free skate program, though your GOE (grade of execution) will be lower because you didn't demonstrate the skill you said that you would.

The elements of the short program are strictly mandated in all skating disciplines

Thank you very much for the additional information, NotUrsula.

(In another board I'm on the question was asked, could you substitute a harder move later in the program to make up the point total, and the answer is no; not in a short program, and it really doesn't work as a strategy in the long program unless you have previously practiced that as a planned backup option, because it would throw off the program's timing.)

I think it was Tara Lipinski who said that Ilia Malinin may have fallen victim to that. After his first fall in the free skate he might have been thinking about whether there was a way he could make up for those lost points by throwing in another element. So part of his brain was continuing to direct his planned program while another part was mulling over options, making him unfocused. I don't know whether anyone has asked him directly whether that happened, but it's a reasonable theory.