Wine and Dine 2015

[Ariel484]

It is my back and nothing I've done has made it better. It is an old injury that since I have made it to a desk job seems to be getting worse. Looks like I'll be going to a chiropractor soon since nothing seems to be helping and I can't stand taking pain reliever as much as I have been.

I can run still which is nice but my pace is still hovering at 17 min mile. Last year I was doing a 14 min/mile so it is a bummer to say the least.

I can sympathize...I have recurring back issues and threw mine out about a month before the Disneyland races. Luckily I was able to still run them but I was definitely hurting by about the 10K mark of the half (not my back, just the rest of me from my training taking a hit while trying to heal the back). It's a totally panicky feeling. I hope the chiropractor helps you get some relief.

 

[wilkeliza]

I can sympathize...I have recurring back issues and threw mine out about a month before the Disneyland races. Luckily I was able to still run them but I was definitely hurting by about the 10K mark of the half (not my back, just the rest of me from my training taking a hit while trying to heal the back). It's a totally panicky feeling. I hope the chiropractor helps you get some relief.

Thanks. The plan right now is to try and train back up to a decent distance in the next 4 weeks and then just see what happens. I'm not too proud to pull myself if I know it isn't going to happen and if I attempt it and can't keep time then so be it. Who knows maybe I'll get lucky since I should be middle of the pack and will have a good 30 minutes before the balloon ladies start.

 

[Miranda]

My chiropractor has helped me out a lot in the past few years. I have scoliosis and a desk job and years of sitting too much playing video games on top of that. I threw it out pretty good almost 3 years ago and that's when I started going to him. That injury was really the impetus for me to get serious about losing weight and getting back into shape (I was a serious athlete in HS and early college, then let myself go badly). I was like, "Please just fix my back so I can finally do this." I had to go 3x a week for a while, and we gradually tapered it down, and now I just go 1x a month for the past couple years.

 

[lovingeire]

It is my back and nothing I've done has made it better. It is an old injury that since I have made it to a desk job seems to be getting worse. Looks like I'll be going to a chiropractor soon since nothing seems to be helping and I can't stand taking pain reliever as much as I have been.

I can run still which is nice but my pace is still hovering at 17 min mile. Last year I was doing a 14 min/mile so it is a bummer to say the least.

I highly recommend the chiropractor. I have a recurring back injury and the chiro is the only thing that will get me back up and running. Painkillers and the like will mask it or lessen the pain, but the chiro gets everything back in working order.

 

[flatlandcycle]

I have coffee every day especially before morning runs. I'm likely to have iced coffee with my meal 3 hours prior to the wine and dine. Galloway suggests black coffee.

 

[Miranda]

Yeah, I've thought about having coffee with my snack before I go on my long runs... I did have coffee before Tink in the hotel room. I don't want to run the coffee pot that early in the morning, though. I could brew a cup at night I guess and stick it in the fridge.

 

[flatlandcycle]

My 11 miler yesterday was pretty good! Thank you for all the tips on fueling. I tried the Cliff Shot Blocks right before mile 4 and 8. I'm not sure if it was that, or the new shoes, but my run was SOOOOO MUCH BETTER than my 9.5 miler two weeks ago. My husband and I seemed to be much more on the same page running too which helped. I did peeter out a bit at the end, but was still able to intervals, I just moved some of them down to 30/30 at the end when necessary. I also switched my intervals from the 1:30/30 which I run through 10K to 1/30 and I think adjusting my pace helped me to sustain the intervals. I would like to be able to get my pace a little faster so that it's consistent with what I normally run, about a minute faster. I was so exhausted afterwards! I took a nap yesterday afternoon, and I never nap! My husband was joking we wouldn't last at the afterparty long! I think I can rally though since I'll go straight to bed afterwards and we'll be kidless so we can hopefully sleep in! Either way, I knew at 9.5 I would finish, but it's nice to finish a run and not feel like death and be confident in enjoying the experience.

I never make it through a college football game. It's our family joke, "Is there a good college game on, I need a good nap."

 

[BwoZoo22]

We had our 'POT worthy' half marathon this weekend, and actually did get a PR! The run was almost entirely downhill (1,274 foot descent, 75 foot gain), which is why we were aiming for a POT worthy finish. We tried sticking to our 60/30 intervals, but had to drop to 30/30 for the "hilly" portion from 6.5 to 8.5. Pushing this hard really did a number on our legs though. And we are having 'unseasonably' HOT weather here; the direct sun, even at 8am, was brutal. Our average pace was a full minute faster that typical race pace though, but our quads are screaming at us now.

So, question... I typically use a 10K POT because the average pace is higher than our half marathon average pace. However, when using that 10K time in the past, our calculated estimated half marathon finish is 10 minutes slower than the half we just ran, despite the 10K having a faster per mile average. Would this new half marathon time be better to submit than the 10K? Does 10 minutes even matter? (We are 2:30 to 3 hour finishers.) It may be a moot point, because when I tried to verify our time this morning, my computer virus program notified me the page was infected by a trojan and would not open it for me. Not cool.

 

[BwoZoo22]

And on the nutrition alternatives note...

I really prefer the 'less sweet' gu flavors: salted watermelon, peanut butter, espresso, even salted caramel can be ok. Maple bacon was interesting, but maple sweet. We have found taking a gu, one package of blocks (citrus type flavor), and several ounces of instant mashed potatoes does the trick for us. The very not sweet butter and salt flavor of the potatoes is heavenly around mile 8. We tried the stingers, but I find them too sweet and dense. Our go to pre-race fuel is a piece of PB toast and a 5 hour energy. It takes me several miles before I can get in the groove if I have too much in the stomach at the start.

For drinks, we usually carry two bottles (7 oz ea?) of lemon lime gatorade on our belt, mixed at half strength. In a properly supported race, those last all run. On course, I always grab water. When it is hot, I drink a few ounces and pour a few ounces over my head.

 

[BuckeyeBama]

I run every morning while on WDW vacations and my family sleeps in, so I have learned to use an electric kettle to heat water and I bring instant coffee. I use International Delights creamer to make the coffee taste good - like liquid dessert every morning. But the main thing is that it is quiet, so I can do this every morning without disturbing the family. I am now doing it at home so my daily routine matches my race day routine.

 

[huggybuff]

We had our 'POT worthy' half marathon this weekend, and actually did get a PR!

Congrats on your PR!

 

[flatlandcycle]

We had our 'POT worthy' half marathon this weekend, and actually did get a PR! The run was almost entirely downhill (1,274 foot descent, 75 foot gain), which is why we were aiming for a POT worthy finish. We tried sticking to our 60/30 intervals, but had to drop to 30/30 for the "hilly" portion from 6.5 to 8.5. Pushing this hard really did a number on our legs though. And we are having 'unseasonably' HOT weather here; the direct sun, even at 8am, was brutal. Our average pace was a full minute faster that typical race pace though, but our quads are screaming at us now.

So, question... I typically use a 10K POT because the average pace is higher than our half marathon average pace. However, when using that 10K time in the past, our calculated estimated half marathon finish is 10 minutes slower than the half we just ran, despite the 10K having a faster per mile average. Would this new half marathon time be better to submit than the 10K? Does 10 minutes even matter? (We are 2:30 to 3 hour finishers.) It may be a moot point, because when I tried to verify our time this morning, my computer virus program notified me the page was infected by a trojan and would not open it for me. Not cool.

It sounds like you are better at longer runs. Maybe you just have better fitness now...

Always use the best prediction time; it might move you up a corral.
It is moot for the Wine and Dine 1/2. Proof of time was due August 4, 2015, there are no corral changes after that. Your new PoT will be good for two years and should be good at other runDisney races if you are within the submission time frame. It is very likely they just closed the link for PoT when the window closed. The verification page for wine and dine shows the following for me:

Not Found
The requested URL /disneysports/proof/wd/proof.php was not found on this server.

Apache/2.2 Server at trackshackresults.com Port 80

 

[margitmouse]

It is my back and nothing I've done has made it better. It is an old injury that since I have made it to a desk job seems to be getting worse. Looks like I'll be going to a chiropractor soon since nothing seems to be helping and I can't stand taking pain reliever as much as I have been.

I can run still which is nice but my pace is still hovering at 17 min mile. Last year I was doing a 14 min/mile so it is a bummer to say the least.

Just my experience, and I don't know what your situation is, but I've been debilitated twice with major back issues and I had great results with Accupuncture.... It's not for everyone though.
Really hoping for you that you are able to find some resolution and make it to at the very least the party- but let's hope for the race!!

 

[wilkeliza]

Just my experience, and I don't know what your situation is, but I've been debilitated twice with major back issues and I had great results with Accupuncture.... It's not for everyone though.
Really hoping for you that you are able to find some resolution and make it to at the very least the party- but let's hope for the race!!

I'll check out acupuncture. I think my insurance actually covers one treatment a month. I will definitely will make the party. I can thankfully walk pretty fine especially with breaks but no breaks when running a half!

 

[margitmouse]

And on the nutrition alternatives note...

I really prefer the 'less sweet' gu flavors: salted watermelon, peanut butter, espresso, even salted caramel can be ok. Maple bacon was interesting, but maple sweet. We have found taking a gu, one package of blocks (citrus type flavor), and several ounces of instant mashed potatoes does the trick for us. The very not sweet butter and salt flavor of the potatoes is heavenly around mile 8. We tried the stingers, but I find them too sweet and dense. Our go to pre-race fuel is a piece of PB toast and a 5 hour energy. It takes me several miles before I can get in the groove if I have too much in the stomach at the start.

For drinks, we usually carry two bottles (7 oz ea?) of lemon lime gatorade on our belt, mixed at half strength. In a properly supported race, those last all run. On course, I always grab water. When it is hot, I drink a few ounces and pour a few ounces over my head.

Thanks for all of this...
How do you carry your mashed potatoes??

 

[BwoZoo22]

Thanks for all of this...
How do you carry your mashed potatoes??

We found that those small cake frosting squeeze bottles work ok. They come in 1 or 2 oz, so they are easy to carry. The trick is finding the right place to cut the nozzle the night before (they come with little caps) so when you go to squeeze it into your mouth, something comes out! We are never able to get all of it out, because the bottle bottom is rigid, but it's easier, for us, than the bulkier larger bottles for Gu. We carry fluid, so those bottles/holsters, are filled already. Tried the small ziploc, biting a hole in the corner... A bit messy, but a cheaper alternative.

 

[wilkeliza]

For the fuel talk just throwing it out there that I alternate between Cliff shots, sports jelly beans, and apple sauce. I need something ever 2 miles or my sugar gets super low (I can tell it is mys sugar due to the fact my body heat shoots up) and so I alternate. I need some food with substance thus the jelly beans, the apple sauce does great to bounce my sugar back up almost instantly and the cliff shots provide all the other stuff that I'm loosing. Some people say I over do it but I say I know my body. One friend laughed at me for fueling for a 5K so I tried doing one with no fuel. I was boiling hot about 2.5 miles in and had to walk the last mile. Never again.

For the apple sauce i use the kids twist top ones and put it through my fuel belt in such a way I can twist it open and off the belt.

 

[PaDisneyCouple]

Hello. We have been away for months. Training for me took a turn for the worse in May, when I had a little calf muscle issue (strain/tear). No running for weeks, but I did discover the wonders of the pool and cross training. DW had some knee pain issues. We're back to training, and log long runs on our local rails to trails park each weekend. Both of us are getting excited. DW has prepared a list of the mile markers, so that after long runs, we can imagine where we would be at WDW. My long run hit 13.2 miles last Saturday, while DW hit 10.5. We're both sore, but functional. Next race for us: running the Hershey 1/2 as a relay team. It is the weekend after our anniversary, so we thought it would be something fun to do, plus it serves as good race prep in many ways.

 

[AThrillingChase]

Yay!! Love these " know I can finish the race" runs! They totally change my thinking, how I see myself running.
I can't remember, are you running straight, or run/walk?

But seriously, anyone tried those?

Kind of in the middle. I usually do 1 or 1.5 mile run, walk .1, run the rest of the mile and repeat. This time I started doing half mile and walk .1 because I was struggling with new long distances in the summer heat. I have not yet decided what I will do race day. It is mostly a mental thing for me, I get bored and anxious so I like something to look forward to lol.

Thanks. The plan right now is to try and train back up to a decent distance in the next 4 weeks and then just see what happens. I'm not too proud to pull myself if I know it isn't going to happen and if I attempt it and can't keep time then so be it. Who knows maybe I'll get lucky since I should be middle of the pack and will have a good 30 minutes before the balloon ladies start.

That will help immensely. If you can walk the last half at a somewhat decent pace it sounds like you could make it!

 

[huggybuff]

Hello. We have been away for months. Training for me took a turn for the worse in May, when I had a little calf muscle issue (strain/tear). No running for weeks, but I did discover the wonders of the pool and cross training. DW had some knee pain issues. We're back to training, and log long runs on our local rails to trails park each weekend. Both of us are getting excited. DW has prepared a list of the mile markers, so that after long runs, we can imagine where we would be at WDW. My long run hit 13.2 miles last Saturday, while DW hit 10.5. We're both sore, but functional. Next race for us: running the Hershey 1/2 as a relay team. It is the weekend after our anniversary, so we thought it would be something fun to do, plus it serves as good race prep in many ways.

Welcome back! I'm so glad your training is back on track! Good luck on your Hershey relay.