Will Disney ever start allowing more initial Fast Passes?

[acarsme123]

Something I've been wondering with all these new attractions coming by the 50th anniversary is will Disney World consider allowing more than just 3 initial fast passes per day? Without more Fast Passes, I don't think there is any way a family could get in all the big attractions in just a typical week's stay. There's just too much new stuff coming to be able to experience it all in a seamless fashion. The two times we've been, we have stayed for a full week and we had no problems seeing everything using a combination of getting to the park early and using FastPass. But I'm afraid that's about to change soon! I told my wife we are going to have to start staying 1.5 weeks minimum just to be able to get everything in!

 

[vacationer1954]

I cannot imagine that they will increase the number of initial FastPasses. As things are now, when crowds are high (such as what the 50th anniversary will likely bring), it isn't possible for every guest to get a full set of three FastPasses for "big" attractions. If they increase the number of initial FastPasses then that will get worse. If anything, I could imagine them decreasing the number of initial FastPasses to two, (though perhaps not for resort guests).

 

[mom2rtk]

They don't have enough FP inventory to allow selections without tiers in 3 of their 4 parks. I don't see anything new coming on board that will allow them to do away with tiering. So no,I don't see it happening.

 

[EpcotQueen]

I see them adding an option to buy additional fast passess. For an extra $150 you can choose 6 instead of 3. Betcha we see that in the not-to-distant future!

 

[Capang]

If you stayed 2 weeks you still wouldn't be able to do everything. Prioritize and save some for next time. This is the reason so many of my friends that took their once in a lifetime trip hate Disney. They were miserable trying to do it all. There really isn't a way to give everyone more FP. After Hours events allow people to hit the bigger attractions with less wait. That's always an option.

 

[Capang]

I see them adding an option to buy additional fast passess. For an extra $150 you can choose 6 instead of 3. Betcha we see that in the not-to-distant future!

It would have to be more than 150. Too many people would buy that and it would cause FP to be overrun. I could see 250 to 300 extra.

 

[vacationer1954]

I think $150 a day is probably in range; the "optics" would be too troublesome were they to price it that much higher. If that really would cause a supply problem, it would be a reason for Disney to decide not to offer it at all.

 

[JETSDAD]

One week is plenty of time to ride all the rides (and most multiple times). Even with a group of 7 we were able to do all the MK rides in a single day in December....the other parks have far fewer rides and are much easier to do in a day. Yes there is plenty of other stuff to do as well and you won't get to see and do everything but the rides and shows can be done easily in a week. Even adding more rides to the other parks won't bring them to the same quantity as MK so will still be able to be done in a single day.

 

[greg9x]

It would have to be more than 150. Too many people would buy that and it would cause FP to be overrun. I could see 250 to 300 extra.

For the very wealthy with money to burn maybe... but as see on these boards there are a lot of people who would pay it.

How can anyone really justify $50/pp for a shortened wait for ONE ride ? (At $150/pp. Then $1000/day for family of four at $250) Of course there is already the Club Level extra FP's for $50/pp... so that would be a cheaper option already at $200/day family of four, plus Club Level upgrade.


What I COULD see Disney doing is dropping the free FP+'s and charging $50/day to make them an add on. It might drop attendance a bit, but that's what Disney wants...less people but more $$'s per person. Also if less FP+'s being used then theoretically the Standby lines would move faster.

But to the OP... the FP+ pools are at a set limit, so can't add more for some without taking away from others.

 

[Capang]

For the very wealthy with money to burn maybe... but as see on these boards there are a lot of people who would pay it.

How can anyone really justify $50/pp for a shortened wait for ONE ride ? ($1000/day for family of four) Of course there is already the Club Level extra FP's for $50/pp... so that would be a cheaper option already at $200/day family of four, plus Club Level upgrade.


What I COULD see Disney doing is dropping the free FP+'s and charging $50/day to make them an add on. It might drop attendance a bit, but that's what Disney wants...less people but more $$'s per person. Also if less FP+'s being used then theoretically the Standby lines would move faster.

But to the OP... the FP+ pools are at a set limit, so can't add more for some without taking away from others.

The problem is that people ARE paying and attendance and crowds are not dropping. So all of the prices have gone up in every category. In my opinion, that is where we are heading since current price increases in tickets, passes, rooms, DVC, etc. have had zero impact on reducing crowding.

 

[greg9x]

The problem is that people ARE paying and attendance and crowds are not dropping. So all of the prices have gone up in every category. In my opinion, that is where we are heading since current price increases in tickets, passes, rooms, DVC, etc. have had zero impact on reducing crowding.

I agree.. why mentioned there are a lot who would pay for it. Also why believe Disney will take away the free and start charging... why give something away when you can make money off of it.

Just would also hope there comes a point where people get fed up and stop paying for every little extra.

 

[HopperFan]

Something I've been wondering with all these new attractions coming by the 50th anniversary is will Disney World consider allowing more than just 3 initial fast passes per day? Without more Fast Passes, I don't think there is any way a family could get in all the big attractions in just a typical week's stay. There's just too much new stuff coming to be able to experience it all in a seamless fashion. The two times we've been, we have stayed for a full week and we had no problems seeing everything using a combination of getting to the park early and using FastPass. But I'm afraid that's about to change soon! I told my wife we are going to have to start staying 1.5 weeks minimum just to be able to get everything in!

And Disney is winning! WHY would they make it easy for you to do more in less time .... so you can go home or head over to Universal? You extending your trip by 50% and spending more money is all the reason they need to not change things!

The only thing I could see coming is more tiers in DHS with SWL and tiers in MK with Tron coming.

BUT ... I think Disney missed the window to straight out charge for FP+. It's one of their big selling points over Universal, and with Universal talking new park in near future ... Disney will need to keep any advantages they have.

I think if Disney straight up monetized the FP+ for the average guest they would see attendance impacted. It certainly would mean we would go from 5-6 trips a year to dropping our AP and going maybe once a year or every other year. But I don't think they need to since they already monetize FP+ in many ways. I think they will just continue to expand the creative selling of FP+.

- This year they already offered you to purchase extra FP+, not sure it's continuing into this year. I can see this continuing because it boosts income not just for the FP+ but also for the hotels. Why offer something for less?

" Club Level rooms can purchase 3 additional advance FastPass+ selections for $50 per person per day with a 3-day minimum. The FastPass+ selections can be made 90 days in advance with no restrictions. Once you purchase through Disney (on the phone only) you will see the 90-day option on My Disney Experience through the Disney website."

- Want FastPass advantage? Book VIP Tours. Again Disney has monetized the FP+ system.

- Stay on property so you can book 60 days FP+, the system demand helps Disney fill overpriced rooms ... so you pay surcharges for the perk (there are others but most aren't worth much).

- Want a good seat or no line for HEA or Holiday Shows, Illuminations and FEA, a couple DHS Night time entertainments or ROL ... just book one of the many Dessert or Dining options that include seating without lines.

- One of the best values .... EMM. You pay for unlimited FP+ for top rides plus they give you breakfast.

- Other great value ... DAH. Unlimited FP+ for an entire park for 3 hours. Have done it and you can get LOTS done.

If Disney gives you more or makes it easier ............ folks will stop booking many of the cash generators above. Disney has kept their promise that FP+ is free while charging for them bundled into experiences. As long as there is demand for attractions and folks have the excess cash they are willing to spend, I would expect to see these continue to expand.

 

[Rhianna.07]

The only thing I could see coming is more tiers in DHS with SWL.

I definitely agree with this. Disney is 100% going to change their tiering for DHS and then you’ll have no chance of getting fastpasses for Toy Story Land AND Galaxy’s Edge, you’ll have to choose between them depending on how they tier it. I really don’t see in the near future them adding fastpasses for free. I don’t understand really why they made them free in the first place. My guess is like the rest of them, Disney will probably say in the next few years that you can get 1 or more fastpasses for $200 more or something like that. They’re so money hungry.

 

[Future_WorldPhonencian]

I cant see disney changing FP either way... ppl now expect 3 and if you are at mk you can usually get 2-3 more... the solution to get shorter lines in the other parks is more attractions not more fp...

As others have said its impossible to do “everything” even in a week ... but what i think the op meant is experience all the major attractions in a park in a day... this is possible except at MK which requires either a marathon day of open to close aggressive touring or 2 more leisurely days

In most cases, you can ride 5 headliner attractions with minimal waits (under 30 mins) If you arrive early and ride 2 major attractions at park opening... that leaves your 3 fps and then if you stay until near closing you can often get on a 6th ride with a short wait... that strategy will get you on everything major at all but MK. Epcots tiers make it a little tricky but doable... Mk has the most same day FPs available so dont forget to check the app after you use fp #3

 

[Queen of the WDW Scene]

They already do but its for club level only and you have to pay for it.
I don't see them just offering more initial fastpasses but I do see them giving everyone the chance to pay for extras in the future.
I myself am debating whether the CLFP+'s is worth the money since I am staying CL for the first time my next trip.

 

[Future_WorldPhonencian]

Just my 2cents...but when SWGE opens I expect something similar to pandora: Tier One will be a choice of 3 or 4 Star Wars attractions (the 2 rides and the cantina or a meet and greet) If TSL attractions were lumped in there they wouldnt have enough inventory for the tier 2 attractions... After 2-3 months standby waits at the SW attractions will be comparable to FoP now and the rest of DHS will be very manageable

 

[greg9x]

Disney is 100% going to change their tiering for DHS and then you’ll have no chance of getting fastpasses for Toy Story Land AND Galaxy’s Edge, you’ll have to choose between them depending on how they tier it.

I doubt TSL rides are going to be top tier after GE opens. TSL is still riding the wave of being new, so hard to get FP's right now, but the rides are not Tier 1 (TSM was at one time, but it's been around long enough to drop down when better rides come along.)

I really don’t see in the near future them adding fastpasses for free. I don’t understand really why they made them free in the first place.

People don't remember that Disney was hurting for people 15+ years ago... a lot of the stuff like Free Dining, FP's, parades came about to draw crowds... Now that the crowds are there, they have been reducing the perks/entertainment and monetizing everything they can. As said, I also foresee them charging for FP's in the future if crowd levels stay up.

 

[vacationer1954]

The problem is that people ARE paying and attendance and crowds are not dropping.

Unfortunately, this too shall pass. The regrettable reality is that people are realizing that this might be the best the economy is ever going to get again, and they're taking advantage of it. What comes next is a recession or two, and that'll neatly handle Disney's current capacity gap problem.

 

[mamamelody2]

In my opinion, Disney will never offer more than 3 initial FPs

EMM and DAH are already pretty much paid Fast pass to top tier rides. And they include food.