Why we will NEVER stay at POP again! ~ AKA The Great Icee & Milk Debate

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lbgraves

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We stayed at POP 6/6-11. Overall on a scale of 1-10 our stay at POP would be rated at a 4. We stayed in room 8430 and could hear everythng happening in the rooms on either side of us as well as the one behind us. We were woken up every night one of more times by this noise. We have stayed at ASMo in the Toy Story section twice and NEVER had this problem. I am not holding the rude unsupervised kids at the pool or the rude poeple who kept banging their doors or running outside the rooms during the night against POP as there was nothing they could have done about those situations.

The food court was satisfactory but we were annoyed that milk is not included in the mug program at POP as it was at ASMo. I expect resorts in the same category to offer the same selections. This added to our expenses since we could not purchase the mugs for the children. The only non-soda choice was apple juice. The icee machine only worked 2 out of the 6 days we were there. I would expect a resort with a future capacity of 6000 rooms to be able to maintain the opperation of all equipment.

The worst part about our stay was on the last day when we attempted to check our luggage so that we could go to DTD until returning to be picked up by our towncar at 3:30. We ended up being stuck at the resort sitting at the pool with the luggage cart & having to unpack the kid's swim suits & towels so that they could keep busy. We got in line at 10:50, realizing that alot of people would be doing the same thing since check out is 11. We were directed to the line on the right facing side othat wrapped around the side of the building. We learned that anyone getting or returning a cart was also sent to this line. The only way anyone was helped in the next 40 minutes was when someone who wanted to return a cart offered their cart to a person who was waiting for one. They turned over their deposit slip with it. The fact that there is a $250.00 deposit for this item should show the level of frustration of these guests.

DH was waiting near the front of the line with our cart of luggage while I was in line with our children. At 11:30 he came back to tell me that the people at the front of the line had not moved in the 40 mihtues that we were waiting. The CMs had only been assisting the other line of people flying out. There were several people upset that they were going to miss flights in that line. The other line should not have been ignored for that length of time as we were. At that point we decided to stay and use the pool instead of waiting any longer, then have to return to another nightmare of a line to retrieve our luggage to leave for the Amtrak station. When we left I counted 32 peopele in line before us. There were 16 people behind us.

The luggage drop off/check in area is very poorly run. I would guess that this was not an isolated incident and would have expected such organizational issues to have been addressed by POP management long ago. Another problem with the area's set up is the fact that there is a line around the corner of the building at all. We all went where several CMs directed us. The CM's entrance to the cart area was also using the same sidewalk. When we were along the wall, the CMs directed us to stand on the left side of the sidewalk along the plant bed so they could reach the luggage area. Whenever another guest came from the front of the building we had to move to the right side so that they could get to the end of the line. This was not easy since carts full of luggage are not easily maneuvered in such a small area.
 
I'm sorry you had such a miserable experience at Pop. DH & I stayed there last year for Easter Week and didn't have any problems at all. We don't drink milk (got refillable mugs, but we drink bottled water mostly and brought our own) and we drive ourselves, plus we stayed on the lake side of the 70's bldg, room 6224. It was very quiet and the only person we saw over (on the floor where our room was) there the whole 7 days was our mousekeeper, but we were on a late schedule. Also didn't experience the noise problems I've heard a few people mention. We seem to have been VERY luck that trip. We took advantage of the MK being open until 11pm or midnight and such.
I have a coworker who just got back today after an 18 day stay at Pop. They flew down and I'm anxious to hear how it went! Hopefully she had a wonderful trip and didn't have a similar experience as you.

I hope your next trip to WDW is much better!
Lori
 
I am sorry to hear that you did not enjoy your time there. The last thing anybody wants is to go to DIsney and have their time spoiled. :sad2:

After reading all of the issues with the larger resorts (values), I have vowed never to stay at a value. If I did, it would have to be an AllStar, I just could not do Pop with all of the noise complaints. I am a light sleeper and I would have to be banging on some walls. Hahahahaha.


I guess that is why I like POFQ. It is small. I feel like we are the only ones there. Even in June or December (Christmastime).
 

LOL! I tried not to for the kid's sake and I remembered the ear plugs in our train bag on the last night so I did get one night's sleep at least. Overall, we really did enjoy our trip to WDW. The parks were fantastic. If you saw my report on the travel board you would see our 7 1/2 hour late train trip to FL as well as the fact that our digital camera was stolen from the seat on the train. I really tried to keep a positive attitude & didn't break down or cause a scene the entire trip but I did have to write wdw guest services about these issues. I didn't want the kids to know about anything that was upsetting me so they still had a great time.

The kids are the only ones who drink milk and we don't allow them to have soda so that just didn't work for them. Well, we could have watered down the lemonaide but we opted not to get them mugs. Believe it or not we also stay at the parks open to close when we go so I was tired enough to sleep if given the opportunity.
 
lbgraves said:
The food court was satisfactory but we were annoyed that milk is not included in the mug program at POP as it was at ASMo. I expect resorts in the same category to offer the same selections. This added to our expenses since we could not purchase the mugs for the children. The only non-soda choice was apple juice.

I asked you this on another thread which was closed before you could answer. Exactly where was the milk at ASSp? I thought all milk and juices were in containers that were purchased seperately at all resorts. Did they have a milk spiggot? Was it next to the coffee? Were you drinking creamer by mistake? I also do not remember an apple juice dispenser at Pop. Hmmmm ....
 
Sorry, I didn't see your post on another thread. At AS Movies we got milk for the kids from a spiggot like the tea or hot chocolate. It was labled as milk. They didn't have an icee machine, but what good is a broken icee machine? The apple juice was to the left of the ice nozzle on the soda machines at POP. It is Minute Maid brand.
 
Actually security can do something about excessive noise at night including the pool area, slamming doors and or noise on the landings outside your room.

I would have requested to be moved. As to the soundproofing of the rooms, not sure unless you change resorts you can improve that. Seems the newer resorts, even including AKL, have this problem.
 
Sorry you had such a bad stay. You can call to have your bags picked up by bell services and you just leave them in the room when you check out. We usually do this and have never had a problem.
 
I'm sorry you had a bad stay =(

We'll never ever stay at Pop again due to noise, too, though thankfully didn't have the other issues you had on top of that. We've stayed at several other Disney hotels, and I have family that stay often there, and we've never heard a peep from other guests. Pop is the most poorly insulated buildings I've ever been in (if there is any insulation at all, LOL). We, too, were woken up several times during the night from normal noise around us.

I am glad the rest of your vacation was good!
 
lbgraves said:
Sorry, I didn't see your post on another thread. At AS Movies we got milk for the kids from a spiggot like the tea or hot chocolate. It was labled as milk. They didn't have an icee machine, but what good is a broken icee machine? The apple juice was to the left of the ice nozzle on the soda machines at POP. It is Minute Maid brand.

Thanks! I am very surprised at the milk and juice. My DD drinks water, lemonade or ice tea, but no milk and no fizzy drinks. She's not particularly fond of juice either ... I think she doesn't like sweet drinks and (like me) she doesn't like the taste of milk. We put soy milk on her cereal at home instead of cows milk.
 
lbgraves said:
The icee machine only worked 2 out of the 6 days we were there.
We stayed at POP for a very brief trip last July. The icee machine wasn't working for most of our stay there either.
 
The icee machine only worked 2 out of the 6 days we were there. I would expect a resort with a future capacity of 6000 rooms to be able to maintain the opperation of all equipment

Just to clarify there is really nothing wrong with icee machine other than those machines were never designed to be used constantly by guests who can fill up for free. The machines never get a chance to actually freeze the mixture. This is why they put up the out of order sign. People stop using it long enough for it to freeze. When it does appear to work it is because they just took down the out of order sign, and the machine has not yet run out.
 
peter11435 said:
Just to clarify there is really nothing wrong with icee machine other than those machines were never designed to be used constantly by guests who can fill up for free. The machines never get a chance to actually freeze the mixture. This is why they put up the out of order sign. People stop using it long enough for it to freeze. When it does appear to work it is because they just took down the out of order sign, and the machine has not yet run out.

that makes perfect sense, but they shouldn't have one at all or have many IMO...don't they have like an express check out service at WDW? I rarely even go up to the front desk to check out at hotels...if all expenses are paid in full already????????? Sorry new to the experience
 
MOMOFMNM said:
that makes perfect sense, but they shouldn't have one at all or have many IMO...don't they have like an express check out service at WDW? I rarely even go up to the front desk to check out at hotels...if all expenses are paid in full already????????? Sorry new to the experience

Disney does have express check-out. A full accounting is placed on your door early in the morning when you check out and it has already been charged to your credit card. Perhaps the people had to wait in line for Magical Express :confused3.
 
lbgraves-

So sorry to hear about your troubles at POP.

At least you can think of sailing on the Magic in 6 months :cool1:

I am sooooo jealous. :earboy2:

We have done the Eastern 1/02. the 3-night 10/02 The Western 1/04!!!

The Eastern was our favorite!!!! Have a great time!!!!
 
I am sorry that you had such a poor experience but as someone in the restaurant business I feel compelled to comment on the "MUG".
I don't think it is reasonable to equate milk to pop. Milk is a much more expensive product than fountain pop so it makes sense to me that milk is not on the "included" list. Apple juice is a good alternative to carbonated beverages and so I think it reasonable that it is included.
 
Agree a bit... I'm at POP right now. I definately noticed a BIG difference in the luggage handling.

On prior trips, you pulled into the turnaround & there were several bellman type CM's who unloaded your stuff onto a cart to be delivered to your room later.

This time I pulled in - NO ONE AROUND... for like 10 mintues. All I saw was a HUGE line at the cart/airline/magic express counter (this is where you got the carts in the past). No CM's in sight. The only way I got some attention was to drive back around & park in the bus lane that they had marked off with cones. Pretty quickly a CM came out & after a brief talk ended up going to get a cart and taking my luggage.

I can see it being a ZOO when you want to leave, so I'm feeling extra lucky that we're transferring over to the BCV for a few days at the end instead of leaving straight from here.

From what the CM said, the MagExp is KILLING them, plus their staff got cut since last year.
 
Wow that stinks.

I went to Pop last year and I loved it. Hopefully I don't encounter the problems you had when I return this August.

Take Care. Hopefully your next trip will be more magical.
 
lbgraves said:
Sorry, I didn't see your post on another thread. At AS Movies we got milk for the kids from a spiggot like the tea or hot chocolate. It was labled as milk. They didn't have an icee machine, but what good is a broken icee machine? The apple juice was to the left of the ice nozzle on the soda machines at POP. It is Minute Maid brand.

I thought the milk spiggot was for flavoring coffee or tea, and not as part of the beverage selection. :confused3
 
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